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bamhand posted:What's wrong with NMD? It's the only content where stuff has enough HP to make the combat satisfying. It's way better than any open world content at least. It's fine but it's very repetitive and feels like it's limited to a small pool of dungeons instead of the entire gamut. I am likely wrong on this, but I don't get much variety from my sigils. It feels like the same 7 or 8 over and over. The rift system in D3 was good and the game needs something closer to that.
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bamhand posted:What's wrong with NMD? It's the only content where stuff has enough HP to make the combat satisfying. It's way better than any open world content at least. You can only get glyph xp from NMDs, you can only get gear above a certain ilevel from NMDs, hence the endgame eventually becomes just running them over and over until you start to hate the game, or more specifically feeling like you 'have' to run NMDs when in theory there is plenty of variety in the game. It's just a weird and annoying design choice.
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I guess for me it's the only content where the game play feels satisfying. In open world stuff everything dies before I even get a chance to hit them. And it's also equally as repetitive. Like running Helltide is my absolute least favorite activity. I guess overall the end game is still kind of shallow. But slightly better than last season I guess? I feel monster damage is tuned too high and HP too low for this game. I would like longer fights without constantly getting one shot. Not quite looking to get to D3 levels of HP sponges but somewhere further on the spectrum would be nice. bamhand fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Oct 25, 2023 |
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Oct 25, 2023 14:58
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One of my biggest complains right now is how many things are not in alphabetical order. Like when I'm looking through my codex of power, why isn't that in alphabetical order? I have to mouse over each thing.
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Oct 25, 2023 15:02
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bamhand posted:I guess for me it's the only content where the game play feels satisfying. In open world stuff everything dies before I even get a chance to hit them. And it's also equally as repetitive. Like running Helltide is my absolute least favorite activity. I guess overall the end game is still kind of shallow. But slightly better than last season I guess? switch some affixes on your gear from offense to defense
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Oct 25, 2023 15:06
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There’s so much drat loot in bloodtides or whatever they’re called. I kill stuff for 5 mins, and will have a full inventory of mostly yellows and have to sort through it all for 10 mins back in town. As for jewels, can you not upgrade them anymore? When I have a new jewel tier available, do I have to crush what i have into shards to make the higher ones?
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I think I've gone through the bulk of my gameplay this season, but unlike the previous seasons, I'm pretty sure I'll hop back on periodically to do a bit more green helltide and to spend the remaining fun tickets I've banked up before realizing all the content is trivial. I pretty much ignored nmd entirely, and glad I did. I was having fun throughout the vast majority of my play, and just chose not to do the stuff that I found unfun. Overall a big W for the future of the game, but it's still in a tentative state. I'm about 45-50 hours in, and expect another 10-15 before bowing out for the next season (unless an uber unique drops lol) the good: uber bosses, namely duriel, offers a real reason to engage in a variety of content the seasonal content was consistently fun and kept me engaged the entire time I was there. it was very hard to tear myself away to do anything else many of the new uniques had me interested in future character builds helltides have a new chest that just drops crafting materials. no more bullshit offscreen deaths I was having fun throughout the vast majority of my play, mostly because they offered a variety of content to do. the endgame keys are all tradable. gold might finally mean something if they add another thing worth money that you can trade. adding a full whisper turn in to the seasonal content made sure that I was coming back in the lategame. 6 or so minutes for a full turn in mod density went up across the board. a+ change, please make the density for season 2 content just the density elsewhere. the mixed: itemization is a bit more interesting, but really only in a way where you can't use the same exact gear set for two different classes anymore. you get to "make" your own damage buckets, but it's extremely shallow, much like the items themselves. that said, fitting uniques into your build is much more reasonable to do. the added content is not challenging outside of trying to tank a vampyric totem's entire duration. Getting to the uber bosses and just instantly crushing them with no risk. lileth remains challenging if you're not playing a bugged out build I guess. they claimed the autosalvage feature was a nice addition, but for whatever reason, it doesn't include blues or whites. why would I ever want to see those after the first 15 minutes of the season? I would like an item power slider instead of just getting rid of everything in previous tiers. perk filtering would be a nice addition, but I don't expect that for a bit, given the struggles they've had adding features to the stash. the bad: still no loot filter nor eta for one. I'm guessing that we'll hear about it in a blizzcon panel, and it'll probably be close to what I described with the autosalvage feature. world bosses dropped 925 weapons, regardless of your level. I had 925 weapons at level 57, but had to wait until 60 to equip them lmao. on top of that, they just added like 3x the health it used to have and doubled the damage or something, but mechanically they're still very hard to die to if your eyes are open. the promotional & campfire slide content for season 2. devs saying one thing while on the slide it says a second thing, and then a third in a tweet, all about the same thing! follow that up with that hilariously awful seasontl trailer, had me not even interested in giving it a shot. blizzard is like an onion of incompetency, and I'm sure they have people actually greenlight these videos, which can only mean some combination of they can't do basic math, they don't actually review the content before greenlighting it, or they simply don't play the game to see what was wrong with some of it. everything feels so phoned in all the time. 4 clicks for 1 xp in vampyric power. clearly, nobody bothered trying to level their runes in qa because that poo poo was abysmal. why is there no xp slider? why does it take 4 clicks per xp? I ended up just leveling the two I cared most about and then click escaping everything to max. this was the only time I felt frustrated playing this season, which says a lot in comparison to the previous seasons. also, in the first patch, you could level your runes past level 3 for some reason lol the events were mostly buffed, but was still skipping them all, especially in nmd, because the bar for mob density is much higher with the seasonal content and buffed dungeons. most of the new events were just worst versions of existing ones, because ????? compounded with above, I didn't get many obols, but that didn't really matter since it was constantly raining gear everywhere I went. obols already need a rework, they shouldn't be giving you lower tier gear, or alternatively, should always be legendaries with the chance at uniques. nmd glyph xp doesn't fit in with the current loop of the game. they need to straight up double the glyph xp or half the xp required, just to cut down on the minimum number you have to run.
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I like a good dungeon grind but NMDs actively inhibit that flow state with the static layouts, backtracking objectives and those awful “kill all” rooms. They should be fun but have zero flavor.
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bamhand posted:What's wrong with NMD? It's the only content where stuff has enough HP to make the combat satisfying. It's way better than any open world content at least. Running the same 8-10 dungeons over and over and having to choose between some really annoying (not difficult) affixes wears real thin after like 5 of them. Oh you want to take a piss? Sorry, this red artichoke is chasing you around for all of eternity and will kill you if you stop for more than 3 seconds. You have a new level skill point to use? Sorry, get in the dome or you’ll get 1-shot with lightning. Like they aren’t difficult, some of them are just really loving annoying and having to constantly mulch NMD tokens with lovely affixes sucks.
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Sorbus posted:Has there been any talk of loadouts coming to d4? I have gear for both firewall and bl sorcs but don’t want to juggle armor and paragon points around. Yes, per Joe Shely in the recent campfire stream(I don't have a time stamp but it was in the q&a section) Zedsdeadbaby posted:It's fine but it's very repetitive and feels like it's limited to a small pool of dungeons instead of the entire gamut. I am likely wrong on this, but I don't get much variety from my sigils. It feels like the same 7 or 8 over and over. Even if it was the entire gamut there's like 12 tile sets
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Oct 25, 2023 15:15
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The Little Kielbasa posted:I farm gear The year is 1997...
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Does the blood you get ever scale up? It's pretty anemic (badumtish) in WT1 and doesn't really seem to improve in WT3.exquisite tea posted:I like a good dungeon grind but NMDs actively inhibit that flow state with the static layouts, backtracking objectives and those awful “kill all” rooms. They should be fun but have zero flavor. Look at this baby who wants fun in their game.
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Now I’m just venting but the fact you have to get objectives to open doors in dungeons and they don’t show up until you are wayyy too close drives me up the wall as I can’t find the last devil’s scrotum to open the door of demonic butts. And it’s hidden on the corner of the map with no marker.
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Kaddish posted:I feel like it’s more difficult to keep vamp powers up while leveling compared to the malignant stuff due to changing gear so often. I felt a lot more powerful throughout last season because of this. Maybe this will smooth out when I finish the season journey stuff and can concentrate on vamp tides. Only level 30 currently. If you are doing blood harvests, you should be drowning in those materials. If you are saving them for whatever reason, that's on you
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Mailer posted:Does the blood you get ever scale up? It's pretty anemic (badumtish) in WT1 and doesn't really seem to improve in WT3. Do the council stuff a few times with other nerds and you'll drown in blood.
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Mayveena posted:Anyone know what the patch was for? Maybe they fixed the duping?
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Ehud posted:Maybe they fixed the duping? Probably because no post on X from @Diablo
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Zeg posted:If you are doing blood harvests, you should be drowning in those materials. If you are saving them for whatever reason, that's on you Yeah, now that I've finished the season quest and I'm hanging out in blood tides, it's not an issue. What's the best way to get blood lures? Sometimes it seems like they barely drop.
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Kaddish posted:Yeah, now that I've finished the season quest and I'm hanging out in blood tides, it's not an issue. Lures are probably the real grind. Elites onward drop them pretty consistently and I spend a lot of time specifically riding around trying to get them to show up. For anyone else wanting the iron maiden, chalice, and skull, the boxes are the way to go. Do not hold on to your keys.
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It's kind of wild how easy they made it to change the little symbols on the gear. When I first saw that system I got worried but now I've got huge stacks of the little symbols and cleaner. Not that I'm complaining! Just weird to put that in then make it barely a restriction at all.
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Make sure you grab herbs and ore veins in blood harvest. You can do it from your horse and it has a pretty high chance to spawn a big group of vampiresKaysette posted:It's kind of wild how easy they made it to change the little symbols on the gear. When I first saw that system I got worried but now I've got huge stacks of the little symbols and cleaner. I guess they want to make it so you don't just have a set of powers for packs and a set for bosses that you could switch between in a few seconds. Although that's the kind of philosophy that they seem to be leaving behind
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Zeg posted:For anyone else wanting the iron maiden, chalice, and skull, the boxes are the way to go. Do not hold on to your keys. Tarnop posted:Make sure you grab herbs and ore veins in blood harvest. You can do it from your horse and it has a pretty high chance to spawn a big group of vampires AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Oct 25, 2023 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I have more Blightshade and Howler Moss than I will ever use but I cannot find Bitterbite or Gallowvine to save my life. Same, but I've learned (and this was new to me, although no idea if it was new this season) that you can convert other herbs into Bitterbite or Gallowvine at the Alchemist. I haven't bothered any of those two in order to upgrade my health potion, since I'm swimming in Blightshade and Howler Moss and conversion is readily available right where I'm trying to upgrade.
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McCoy Pauley posted:Same, but I've learned (and this was new to me, although no idea if it was new this season) that you can convert other herbs into Bitterbite or Gallowvine at the Alchemist. I haven't bothered any of those two in order to upgrade my health potion, since I'm swimming in Blightshade and Howler Moss and conversion is readily available right where I'm trying to upgrade. It's been there since launch!
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Hold out on your keys? Is there anything else you can do with them other than open vampire coffins for loot? I have ~20 of them and cant spend them faster than I am picking them up (I'm only level 57 or something). Zeg posted:Lures are probably the real grind. Elites onward drop them pretty consistently and I spend a lot of time specifically riding around trying to get them to show up. I never said anything about holding on to them, friend. I'm encouraging others to spend them!
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Hold out on your keys? Is there anything else you can do with them other than open vampire coffins for loot? I have ~20 of them and cant spend them faster than I am picking them up (I'm only level 57 or something). Have a fat stash of keys for when you hit wt4 is wise. Like 10-20 though but only when you first get there. Else smash all boxes open. I don't think gallowvine grows where vampires do so that's why. Bitterbite does in like one vampire zone I think? Vamp zones just too good to leave.
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McCoy Pauley posted:Same, but I've learned (and this was new to me, although no idea if it was new this season) that you can convert other herbs into Bitterbite or Gallowvine at the Alchemist. I haven't bothered any of those two in order to upgrade my health potion, since I'm swimming in Blightshade and Howler Moss and conversion is readily available right where I'm trying to upgrade. I looked at converting the alchemical ingredients at the Alchemist, but I was not sure which direction it went (it was not very clear to me based on the UI). I was worried I was going to convery my limited number of gallowvine into more Blightshade or whatever. edit:This reminds me that I find it odd that there is no Vampiretide in any Fractured Peaks or Kejhistan. Zeg posted:I never said anything about holding on to them, friend. I'm encouraging others to spend them! Mustached Demon posted:Have a fat stash of keys for when you hit wt4 is wise. Like 10-20 though but only when you first get there. Else smash all boxes open. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Oct 25, 2023 |
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Another change worth mentioning with the blood zones is all the Whisper quests and how often you’re filling those up. At early levels the XP is considerable and I haven’t really been paying too much attention but I guess the gold is really good too. I’m like level 70 and haven’t bothered selling anything and I’ve got almost 100m gold. Now if only there were a more reliable way of getting forgotten souls than doing Helltides. I feel like that’s gonna be the big annoying bottleneck when I wanna start rerolling gear.
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American McGay posted:Another change worth mentioning with the blood zones is all the Whisper quests and how often you’re filling those up. At early levels the XP is considerable and I haven’t really been paying too much attention but I guess the gold is really good too. I’m like level 70 and haven’t bothered selling anything and I’ve got almost 100m gold. Anyone know what the best way to get Forgotten Souls from Helltides is?
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the living steel chests in a helltide seem to drop more forgotten souls than the others, so I've been targeting those
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yeah they just need to make helltide zones always have whispers also just go ahead and let us accept more whispers without having to go back to the tree and turn in - it's pointless having to choose between three random vamp powers to upgrade instead of just picking one is pointless too
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I have a whole bunch of limbs, bones, and heads in my inventory now but no clue what to do with them. Ah, I apologize, I misunderstood. You build a boss with all those pieces! Varshan, I think. He's in the tree hole by the Whispers tree.
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It seems like all the guides I found for a blood surge necro doesn’t use any uniques? Looks like I’m done with the season at level 75!
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American McGay posted:Now if only there were a more reliable way of getting forgotten souls than doing Helltides. I feel like that’s gonna be the big annoying bottleneck when I wanna start rerolling gear. This is the actual endgame at the moment for me. It suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks right now
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seemed like WT4 varshan did his ground effect poo poo faster than in WT3. making the mechanics just go faster so you have less time to react and move is a lazy-rear end way to make it harderobi_ant posted:It seems like all the guides I found for a blood surge necro doesn’t use any uniques? Looks like I’m done with the season at level 75! you definitely want this  it drops from varshan. I got mine in 3 kills on WT3
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Zeg posted:Lures are probably the real grind. Elites onward drop them pretty consistently and I spend a lot of time specifically riding around trying to get them to show up. Do the keys do anything else? I've just been opening every box lol. I just found out theres the special trine boss for 150 blood lures though so I may actually missing something.
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Interesting if they'll stick to that message from yesterday about no nerfs with this published. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNhVuNlHDr4
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