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Corla Plankun posted:I've found in my struggles (which are hopefully over for a while now because I finally got a Senior job) that Staff-level interviews are WAY more about stupid trivia like "how kafka does X" and "what does Y PaaS thing call its partition key" or whatever than dev ones. that's lame, sorry. it's usually ok/good to have one living encyclopedia for each of your technologies but you don't need more than one and you shouldn't go out and interview for them.
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Ranking your proficiency in a language at all sounds like an extremely "still in school" thing to do, just peak Dunning-Kruger. Is there ever a case where adding "I am an ADVANCED Python knower, but only INTERMEDIATE in C++" is beneficial over just adding the most impressive Python project to your resume and mentioning that you know C++? It just comes off as bad resume building to me, even if they weren't wrong about their abilities
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Oct 24, 2023 13:29
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Its a Rolex posted:Ranking your proficiency in a language at all sounds like an extremely "still in school" thing to do, just peak Dunning-Kruger. Is there ever a case where adding "I am an ADVANCED Python knower, but only INTERMEDIATE in C++" is beneficial over just adding the most impressive Python project to your resume and mentioning that you know C++? Asking people directly to rank themselves on a 1-10 scale is even dumber, but companies do that a lot too
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Oct 24, 2023 13:39
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some sort of rough scale of ability is useful sure 1: can program but has never worked with this particular language before in their life 2: can imitate existing code in the code base to add stuff that is similar to what's there already but will have to consult google and so for a lot of stuff 3: can propose designs for a component of an existing project, have some familiarity with the third party library ecosystem 4: can design and implement an entire standalone project in this language, familiar with common tools, libraries, and best practices 5: knows about every rake that they or their team members may potentially step on for any given task well ahead of time
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Oct 24, 2023 14:20
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now everyone just needs to use the sapozhnik scale and we’ve solved this problem
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Oct 24, 2023 14:45
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if anyone says that they are an advanced python knower and seems to have any spring in their step or cheer in their eyes you know they haven't seen the darkness of advanced level python scripting
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Oct 24, 2023 15:39
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i guess some of those complaints are reasonable but if a candidate submitted code with docstrings I'd pass on them because I don't want to work with a big fuckin nerd
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Oct 24, 2023 15:44
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no true pythonista
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Oct 24, 2023 16:46
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Its a Rolex posted:Interviewer just asked me, "If we asked your references at X and Y to rate your performance, what do you think they would rate you from 1-10?" How am I supposed to say anything other than 10? That question confers almost no information. These guys from the start of this month emailed me back this morning after reiterating that they "wanted to move quick and he would take my interview to his team immediately for review". The email, first thing on a Friday morning, said they were impressed with my interview and wanted me to do the take home challenge, due on Monday. As part of that challenge I needed to implement a system for optimizing a particular kind of device. Then I needed to use that system to solve an almost entirely unconstrained design problem to "make that device" and send them those results, too. Then I needed to give a plan for testing and validating that design in the lab that I provide them with. It's due on Monday, but if I need an extra 24 hours for my simulations to run and get a better answer (they did not provide licenses to industry design software or compute resources) that would be okay. They also plaster their NDA all over all documents and made me sign an NDA before the interview, so I think I'm just gonna focus on the panel interview I have this afternoon elsewhere instead of doing free design work on my weekend for a team that ghosted me for almost exactly a month
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Oct 27, 2023 16:27
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Its a Rolex posted:These guys from the start of this month emailed me back this morning after reiterating that they "wanted to move quick and he would take my interview to his team immediately for review". The email, first thing on a Friday morning, said they were impressed with my interview and wanted me to do the take home challenge, due on Monday. We pay our interviewees for their time spent on a take-home exam. Every company should do that. It's only fair. It also incentivizes the company to make the exam shorter so they can pay less.
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Oct 27, 2023 16:55
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you know how a lot of people want interviews to be as close to 1:1 with the actual job as possible? this is the monkey's paw curling.
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my general rule of thumb for how much despair peeps are under is how long they take to reply to your emails. doesnt work for salespeeps but a lot of the job of bein a salespeep is hiding your despair anyways one month turnaround... bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Oct 27, 2023 |
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Oct 27, 2023 17:31
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bob dobbs is dead posted:my general rule of thumb for how much despair peeps are under is how long they take to reply to your emails. doesnt work for salespeeps but a lot of the job of bein a salespeep is hiding your despair anyways see i just figure that they hired someone else, ghosted, and then that person bailed in some capacity. though to be fair, i guess give 'em some despair. unless you meant despair is inversely proportional to time-to-response. but i think you meant regular proportionality
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Its a Rolex posted:These guys from the start of this month emailed me back this morning after reiterating that they "wanted to move quick and he would take my interview to his team immediately for review". The email, first thing on a Friday morning, said they were impressed with my interview and wanted me to do the take home challenge, due on Monday. Wait 20 days then ask if they have a remote environment to use for building the sim.
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Oct 27, 2023 17:57
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Achmed Jones posted:see i just figure that they hired someone else, ghosted, and then that person bailed in some capacity. theres a lot of reasons a company might go link dead on you during an interview but the most common one would probably be "company is operating at 99.8% of absolute maximum capacity at all times and any slight issue pushes everything, including hiring, down the priority list."
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Oct 27, 2023 20:39
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rotor posted:theres a lot of reasons a company might go link dead on you during an interview but the most common one would probably be "company is operating at 99.8% of absolute maximum capacity at all times and any slight issue pushes everything, including hiring, down the priority list."
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Oct 27, 2023 23:33
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the internal hiring processes of almost all companies are shambolic and ad hoc and can freeze up at any time (another common cause: some critical stakeholder goes on vacation or a business trip or medical leave and cant sign off on the job offer) and there is no figuring them from the outside (maybe the req got pulled? maybe the group got reorged and the job no longer exists or the new head wants to bring their own person in? maybe youre the #2 candidate and theyre waiting to see if they can come to terms with their #1 candidate? maybe the job didnt actually exist?). just keep sending out applications and working your contact network and dont waste brain cycles trying to make sense of it
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Oct 27, 2023 23:42
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also hiring process depends heavily on hr not sucking and hr always sucks
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Oct 27, 2023 23:45
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FMguru posted:the internal hiring processes of almost all companies are shambolic and ad hoc and can freeze up at any time (another common cause: some critical stakeholder goes on vacation or a business trip or medical leave and cant sign off on the job offer) and there is no figuring them from the outside (maybe the req got pulled? maybe the group got reorged and the job no longer exists or the new head wants to bring their own person in? maybe youre the #2 candidate and theyre waiting to see if they can come to terms with their #1 candidate? maybe the job didnt actually exist?). just keep sending out applications and working your contact network and dont waste brain cycles trying to make sense of it good post  100% based on every exposure to hiring I’ve had at megscorps both as a candidate and someone on the inside
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Oct 28, 2023 08:26
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Sometimes the company will decide you were a great hire for the role as originally conceived but now that they're thinking about it some more they really want something completely different
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Oct 28, 2023 10:35
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“we’ll keep your resume on file in case we ever need a fuckin clown lmao”
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well-read undead posted:“we’ll keep your resume on file in case we ever need a fuckin clown lmao” 
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well-read undead posted:“we’ll keep your resume on file in case we ever need a fuckin clown lmao” i vented about this once and someone i knew who did hiring was like “no it’s real, i keep resumes on file in case more appropriate roles open up!” ok sure lady i guess you’re the only one in the world who does. the tech major who just rejected me definitely is not calling me back next year with an exciting new opportunity i’d be great for.
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Oct 28, 2023 12:20
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well-read undead posted:“we’ll keep your resume on file in case we ever need a fuckin clown lmao” lol
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raminasi posted:i vented about this once and someone i knew who did hiring was like “no it’s real, i keep resumes on file in case more appropriate roles open up!” ok sure lady i guess you’re the only one in the world who does. the tech major who just rejected me definitely is not calling me back next year with an exciting new opportunity i’d be great for. I've gotten emails to jump on the interview merry go round again from the tech majors. Joke for a while was everyone had a yearly interview with goog
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Oct 28, 2023 13:54
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raminasi posted:i vented about this once and someone i knew who did hiring was like “no it’s real, i keep resumes on file in case more appropriate roles open up!” ok sure lady i guess you’re the only one in the world who does. the tech major who just rejected me definitely is not calling me back next year with an exciting new opportunity i’d be great for. my company is small enough that we definitely do this. both for candidates who aren’t as senior as we need but will be good hires once we’re a bit larger and will be able to mentor them a bit, and for candidates who were really interviewing for the wrong role but were clearly very qualified in a different position. unfortunately we need more money before we can give any of them a call so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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raminasi posted:i vented about this once and someone i knew who did hiring was like “no it’s real, i keep resumes on file in case more appropriate roles open up!” ok sure lady i guess you’re the only one in the world who does. the tech major who just rejected me definitely is not calling me back next year with an exciting new opportunity i’d be great for. You are correct that most of the time it doesn’t amount to anything.
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Oct 28, 2023 15:46
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tk posted:Individual hiring managers absolutely will do this. The one time I was in a position where we held on to a resume and then was able to find a position for them, we called and they had landed in a much better place than we would have been.
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leper khan posted:I've gotten emails to jump on the interview merry go round again from the tech majors. Joke for a while was everyone had a yearly interview with goog yeah i went on two rounds of these before i wised up 
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Oct 28, 2023 22:44
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i'd say "should've kept pulling the lever," but eh
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Oct 28, 2023 23:38
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yeah, i was talking to my boss (formerly a high up at apple) recently and i'm pretty sure there's no way i'd survive a week at a faang
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i’ve got no inclination to work at a faang or megacorp, but i sometimes wonder how i’d fare in those environments i’d probably be mad a lot
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Oct 29, 2023 00:43
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nudgenudgetilt posted:yeah, i was talking to my boss (formerly a high up at apple) recently and i'm pretty sure there's no way i'd survive a week at a faang y
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Oct 29, 2023 00:45
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idk about the rest but at facebook zuckerberg does a mma match with all new hires on the first week as a show of dominance
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Oct 29, 2023 00:49
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i don't hesitate to criticize anyone and everyone from the ceo down, and i believe healthy organizations effect change from the bottom up in addition to from the top down. faangs are very much top down.
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nudgenudgetilt posted:faangs are very much top down. Yea this was definitely my experience. I recall an email instructing us that we were at a "burn the boats" moment for some thing. I cant remember what the thing even was. I only remember thinking that whatever refocusing or organizational change they wanted to make that they werent gonna (but totally could) turn back from seemed like...minorly significant with a lot of off ramps if it didnt work out particularly because they had more cash than god. I was at a faang 10 years ago for a year, hated it, moved back home after meeting my now wife while living in the bay. Overall the company wasnt that bad, I think I just had a real bad boss.
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CarForumPoster posted:I think I just had a real bad boss. yeah that’s a universal problem, a bad boss makes any job poo poo
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well-read undead posted:yeah that’s a universal problem, a bad boss makes any job poo poo
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Oct 29, 2023 01:24
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your liege and not your suzerain was your experience of vassalism. your suzerain is the guy you go to when your liege is poo poo
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well-read undead posted:yeah that’s a universal problem, a boss makes any job poo poo
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