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RHase posted:gently caress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! guess i'll just have to suck off my wife about it ( <--- said in a borat voice) Dude. Hospitals are being bombed in Gaza and they’re doing surgeries without anesthesia or antibiotics on conscious children and this is the loving energy you bring into this thread? Get the gently caress out. I’m not even going to ask you to post your hole because that bitch is slimy and the vibes are horrible.
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Poppers posted:Dude. Hospitals are being bombed in Gaza and they’re doing surgeries without anesthesia or antibiotics on conscious children and this is the loving energy you bring into this thread? Get the gently caress out. I’m not even going to ask you to post your hole because that bitch is slimy and the vibes are horrible. This. Read the room.
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you're right, it should have been a bruno (gay) voice im so loving sorry  listening & learning from this
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Poppers posted:Dude. Hospitals are being bombed in Gaza and they’re doing surgeries without anesthesia or antibiotics on conscious children and this is the loving energy you bring into this thread? Get the gently caress out. I’m not even going to ask you to post your hole because that bitch is slimy and the vibes are horrible. got em
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what are you you all doin in this thread
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:what are you you all doin in this thread 
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:what are you you all doin in this thread poppers
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:what are you you all doin in this thread ketamine hopefully if poppers shares with the rest of us
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The ketamine is for rave sluts ONLY
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Also can someone adopt this noobie and teach them the way
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Poppers posted:Also can someone adopt this noobie and teach them the way I will teach them my ways
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Alright RHase. Time to shape up or we all take turns pulling down Lain’s pants and paddling her rear end red.
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tokin opposition posted:I will teach them my ways i primarily lurk the hardware/software subforum and i'm pretty sure you were the one who had a lain smoking weed avatar, and that pic owned, so i will do my best to learn and perhaps one day post at least marginally-to-slightly better
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if you're going to post with faggots you're going to need a faggier av RHase, like of an anime or a horrible little dog or somebody getting fisted poppers get this noob an invite to the discord
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Gravid Topiary posted:if you're going to post with faggots you're going to need a faggier av RHase, like of an anime or a horrible little dog or somebody getting fisted This
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Gravid Topiary posted:if you're going to post with faggots you're going to need a faggier av RHase, like of an anime or a horrible little dog or somebody getting fisted horrible little anime dog it is, then!
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RHase posted:horrible little anime dog it is, then! good work kohai
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So what is next month's book or are we just voguing in here now
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Sarsapariller posted:So what is next month's book or are we just voguing in here now Judith Butler's seminal work, Gender Trouble. First book club is on the 4th
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tokin opposition posted:Judith Butler's seminal work, Gender Trouble. First book club is on the 4th hell id read it
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I am looking forward to it if we pick that but may not read it cover to cover. Butler is of course extremely, extremely right about some things, particularly the notion of enforced and ultimately baseless divisions between interiorities/exteriorities. The book is beginning to show its age, or at least lack of engagement with things like developmental neuroscience. I've seen some strong evidence contrary to certain notions in the book in some studies, and I'd be interested in doing some secondary readings. Also the notion that illusory subject/object distinctions can be fought primarily with parody, drag, etc. is kind of funny. More like: a struggle towards a deep and abiding compassion imo.
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tokin opposition posted:Judith Butler's seminal work, Gender Trouble. First book club is on the 4th I've heard a lot about it and I've read Whipping Girl which felt like the next step in the discussion that this started, but was also getting pretty dated. Will pick it up though
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Reading a Guardian interview with them though, I found this bit very striking. I think it's bizarre that people are still apparently finding controversy in Butler's idea that gender and sex are both performative cultural roles- I have spent too long in the Gender Mines I guess to really have a clear idea of what the cis think about this, but how can they not be aware of that, modern masculinity is nothing if not entirely performative. Let’s talk about Gender Trouble’s central idea of ‘performativity’. This remains a controversial view of how gender works, so what did you have in mind? At the time I was interested in a set of debates in the academy about speech acts. “Performative” speech acts are the kind that make something happen or seek to create a new reality. When a judge declares a sentence, for instance, they produce a new reality, and they usually have the authority to make that happen. But do we say that the judge is all-powerful? Or is the judge citing a set of conventions, following a set of procedures? If it is the latter, then the judge is invoking a power that does not belong to them as a person, but as a designated authority. Their act becomes a citation – they repeat an established protocol. How does that relate to gender? I suggested more than 30 years ago that people are, consciously or not, citing conventions of gender when they claim to be expressing their own interior reality or even when they say they are creating themselves anew. It seemed to me that none of us totally escape cultural norms. At the same time, none of us are totally determined by cultural norms. Gender then becomes a negotiation, a struggle, a way of dealing with historical constraints and making new realities. When we are “girled”, we are entered into a realm of girldom that has been built up over a long time – a series of conventions, sometimes conflicting, that establish girlness within society. We don’t just choose it. And it is not just imposed on us. But that social reality can, and does, change.
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it's because most people don't understand that gender is a class system that exists in society and not fundamentally in human nature, and even though the one we inhabit in the west is based on white christian social tradition (in which gender is supposed to be an inviolable and restrictive sex-class) there are other ways for it to be expressed too humanism makes people dumb who coulda guessed Herbert Stencil has issued a correction as of 18:31 on Oct 28, 2023 |
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In that case we should do a different book. it would also spare some local libraries getting copies of gender trouble back that are gnawed on, covered in chocolate smudges etc.
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Poppers posted:If I read too many retarded takes about Judith Butler I’m locking the thread. 
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Your rear end in a top hat is a big donor to men’s wieners. Your point?
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The butler suggestion was tongue in cheek because even in GT her writing is so baroque and hard to understand without so much context and someone sitting you down and explaining what the gently caress she's actually saying. My actual suggestion is https://www.amazon.com/Half-Built-Garden-Ruthanna-Emrys-ebook/dp/B09CNDZSYK
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Ohtori Akio posted:perhaps someone else could nominate a book..? youtube playlist of all the in living color "men on..." skits but turn the auto-closed-captioning thing on so it counts as reading
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Poppers posted:Your rear end in a top hat is a big donor to men’s wieners. Your point? One of these things is much more honorable than the other
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Ohtori Akio posted:perhaps someone else could nominate a book..? A couple of friends and I passed the same copy of Stone Butch Blues around this summer and I've been itching to chat about it with people who aren't kind-hearted but weak-minded non-profit libs.
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57001 posted:A couple of friends and I passed the same copy of Stone Butch Blues around this summer and I've been itching to chat about it with people who aren't kind-hearted but weak-minded non-profit libs. pdf is also available for free on the website of the author’s estate
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57001 posted:A couple of friends and I passed the same copy of Stone Butch Blues around this summer and I've been itching to chat about it with people who aren't kind-hearted but weak-minded non-profit libs. numbers guy has the right idea
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