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crispix posted:i once found a big lump of flavouring salt in a bag of cheese and onion mccoys and i ate it brave crisponaut
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Oct 28, 2023 21:31
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Ready salted McCoys are the only good ready salted crisp and I wish they weren’t only available in the tiny little multipack bags
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Oct 28, 2023 21:32
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Ready Salted Squares are a snack I would commit crimes to get in Grab Bag form. But no, we get lovely 20g multipack bags that last about 20 seconds in my presence.
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Oct 28, 2023 21:36
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I recall as a youth that Nik Naks had a promotional offer for a badge that said “My Nik Naks are Nice and Spicy” which I proudly wore and thought the height of double entendre amusement
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Oct 28, 2023 21:44
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Dont buy these from Amazon (get the from the Coop instead for like £1 a giant pack) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Golden-Cross-Pickled-Onion-12x150g/dp/B07TF9KYHM I swear to gently caress it's like someone from health and safety said "bugger it" to the picked onion flavour limiter. My mouth is starting to water at the memory of their deliciousness. The "spicy tomato" flavour of the same brand is pretty much just the flaming hot Monster Munch flavour and it's just as lovely. They're also the brand that makes Johnny's Onion rings, probably the best onion ring crisp out there. I get a bag of each, pour them into one bowl and just go to town. As for best salt and vinegar, it's a toss-up between Squares and co-op's sea salt and chardonnay wine. Squares have ta nice timeless flavour, but those co-op crisps, poo poo, they have a kick. It's not as strong as the powder in the bottom of a packet of Disco's but imagine every crisp being not far off it.
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Oct 28, 2023 21:45
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I can't stop buying Coop Salt & Pepper Chips, they're empty cuboid tubes which means they're mostly air and that means it's OK that I can blast through the big sharing bag in one go solo, right?
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Oct 28, 2023 22:06
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Scampi fries > scampi niknaks Those bacon ones they do are not a patch on frazzles.
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Oct 28, 2023 22:07
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Here is some good news to cheer the thread right up https://twitter.com/giantpoppywatch/status/1718186473768259657
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Oct 28, 2023 22:09
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OzyMandrill posted:Scampi fries > scampi niknaks Cheese Moments > Bacon Fries > Scampi Fries.
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Oct 28, 2023 22:36
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i guess we arent talking about it but I'm glad monica belluci didnt get in trouble cos I dont think theyre a troll or a bad person. probably just an awkward misfire. good people gently caress up all the time.
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TACD posted:Here is some good news to cheer the thread right up For my poppy watch, I saw someone with a metal poppy zip today. It was very strange.
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Oct 28, 2023 23:42
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Was there a muppet first world war?
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Oct 28, 2023 23:44
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OwlFancier posted:Was there a muppet first world war? Yeah, it was when the perfidious Hun thought he could stand against Albion & her allies baddum tish
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Oct 28, 2023 23:50
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The real reason that Sunak and Starmer want controls on AI is that it can create more powerfully patriotic images than they could ever be bothered to make in their own time, and so they have no way to counter the impact of
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Don't forget the clocks go back at 3am to 2am. Time for confusion tomorrow as half my things automatically change and half don't.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i guess we arent talking about it but I'm glad monica belluci didnt get in trouble cos I dont think theyre a troll or a bad person. probably just an awkward misfire. good people gently caress up all the time. Wait Monica wasn't probated for that? Not even a sixer?
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Okay looked back and an external mod had to come in probate that. gently caress's sake I appreciate light moderation in this thread generally but it's embarrassing we have two IKs and somehow the person suggesting the Holocaust was justified had to be punished externally.
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Tesseraction posted:Wait Monica wasn't probated for that? Not even a sixer? If they want to attempt to argue that they were justified in doing it I'm pushing straight for a ban. But otherwise I personally haven't ever found probations to be a particularly effective communication tool. I would rather just reply to people. I don't really understand why mods appear to use them as a method of replying to people. If you want to report them for a ban anyway then that's entirely up to you. Essentially my rationale is that if they want to apologise they can, you're not obligated to accept it and I think it's fairly clear that they won't be tolerated if that's the sort of thing they sincerely think.
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That's a fair assessment but I feel it only applies if you or Guava were providing a timely response to suggest that what they said wasn't okay - as you saw there was pretty decent pushback from thread regulars, but no IK response gives the (IMO unfair) impression to others that we think that kind of poo poo is just a funny thing thread posters can say to be edgy.
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As I said I was out all day, haven't been on the forums, so you wouldn't have gotten a timely response either way I'm afraid, sorry. As soon as I logged back on that was the first thing I responded to. And I agree yes that everybody else had the proper response which I would hope would give the desired impression to anybody reading. If you would prefer I probe first and ask questions later in future I can start doing that, though it would not be my preference. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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Oct 29, 2023 00:19
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I appreciate it's very easy for me to backseat IK, given I chose not to request that Sword of Damocles, but I do think that some things are worth being retroactively harsh on. Like I said, D&D mods had to specifically break the rule of not interfering in regional politics threads to probate Monica because what they said was so egregious. I'm not saying probe first and ask questions later so much as probe the person saying the Holocaust was justified.
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In the spirit of the UK Marxism Thread, our IKs are volunteers and aren't being paid a penny and are doing these additional duties on top of living their lives, so give them a break, imho.
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Oct 29, 2023 00:31
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*slamming fist onto the desk* no
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More seriously I'm not saying that the current IKs are culpable or anything I'm just saying that this thread having someone say that Hitler had the right idea and having to be punished externally because of no IK intervention is, to me, a bad sign and likely to cause the mods to decide that IKs aren't sufficient for this thread. I really don't want that, so my pushback here it to protect the current moderation status of the thread.
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I suppose I would view the probe button as the conversational equivalent of a tazer, something you use to temporarily incapacitate someone rather than talking to them and not something it is useful to use just for emphasis. So if someone is repeatedly making GBS threads up the thread then yes, but one post that they got immediately blasted for, seems performative but performative things can still be valuable so I can do that in future. I would tend to view being told to gently caress off by everybody as the more relevant punishment than anything I can do. As I said I sincerely hope that was just an extremely stupid thing to say and that the first thing they say if they come back is an apology. If you still want them out of the thread after that I can try to facilitate that. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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I guess I do side on the basis of performative at least in remembering we are a thread in a subforum of an overall forum, and the perception that we allow genocidal posting can have knock-on effects. And look, I know I often make posts that are over a line and get called out for it, and if I deserve it I will hopefully walk back what I said, but the problem was that the thread then descended into a bit of a wild argument. Again, I'm not trying to backseat mod so much as worry that a non-IK mod felt the need to pop in here and take action.
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so one person said something daft, namely that the nazis were right, they've been punished we can move on now i think 
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true what they say, you always get one
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Extremely funny that in the thread for thoughtful left wing viewpoints someone posted “you gotta love Hitler” and got away with it lol
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I don't really know that being told to gently caress off by basically everybody constitutes "getting away with it" and I again don't really understand why probations have more significance than that. They're functionally the same thing. Me telling somebody to gently caress off using the probation button means exactly the same thing as telling them via a post. And whether it's me doing it carries absolutely no more moral weight than anybody else doing it.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't really know that being told to gently caress off by basically everybody constitutes "getting away with it" and I again don't really understand why probations have more significance than that. They're functionally the same thing. It sends a message that the mods are watching, creates an actual, tangible consequence for bad behaviour (if a small one), and creates a permanent record on their rap sheet for future reference and context if they're behaving suspiciously later on.
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Gotta say giving an Un-Ironic 'gotta give it to Hitler' the kid gloves is a very bad look. Not to go all David Baddiel but pretty sure rhetoric like that aimed at another group would not just get a terse 'care to explain yourself' JoylessJester fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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Oct 29, 2023 01:45
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OwlFancier posted:I don't really know that being told to gently caress off by basically everybody constitutes "getting away with it" and I again don't really understand why probations have more significance than that. They're functionally the same thing. Me telling somebody to gently caress off using the probation button means exactly the same thing as telling them via a post. And whether it's me doing it carries absolutely no more moral weight than anybody else doing it. This seems pretty sensible.
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If it was somebody I had reason to think was speaking out of momentary foolishness and anger, and who I thought would be quick to recant it upon having it pointed out to them, yes it absolutely would. And that is exactly the approach I have taken even with people I didn't have reason to extend that charity to. I would much prefer to explain why something is wrong to someone and have done so at length. As I said, I will not tolerate that view held sincerely or trying to justify it. But I want to give people a chance to recant and apologise when I think they ought to. I think that contrition would mean more than any punishment. I guess the big disconnect is that I view probations as being a tool for engaging with people who do not have any actual concern or respect for the other people in the thread and thus can only be compelled by force. Monica has been posting here a while and has not hitherto given me any reason to think they were a nazi or that just being told why posting that is hosed up, wouldn't affect them. I have to believe that anybody who posts here regularly would give a poo poo about their peers and be affected by their scorn. I honestly do not want to start using probes to communicate with thread regulars at all because I don't think that is how peers should communicate and I think that doing that is less effective than speaking to people normally. I don't like it when moderators do it to me and it only makes me less likely to respect anything they say as it comes across as pointless grandstanding on their part. But, if the consensus disagrees I will try to change that approach in future. The point about the utility of the rap sheet is relevant and I can't disagree with that. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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As someone who's been given a 6-er - and longer - for less, but on each occasion for something both expected and deserved, I'm cool with internal mods making appropriate choices. In my case, I've always felt the cause of tasteless humour was worth it, and I can only hope that my peers have either embraced such a view, or been cretinous enough that such nuances have been beyond them. On an entirely different note, allow me to comment on how loving weird this article about a Spanish princess is, regarding the fact that she's about to turn 18. Strong 'Charlotte Church is about to turn 18' vibes about the whole thing, and even allowing for the fact it's a mid-weekend puff piece, the author should be put on every sex-pest watchlist going. 
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I feel like you're overstating the case a bit there. The Charlotte Church stuff was years and years of openly leering at a child's body, the closest this article gets to mentioning her appearance at all is quoting someone talking about how she smiles like her dad does. It's just royalist propaganda, prepping the proles for their new god that's about to be dropped on them whether they like it or not.
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