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Paris sets their clocks wrong on purpose anyway. e: 229 West 43rd Street used to be The New York Times Building, and has the sun correctly overhead at noon.
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I always have big respect for the nations who set their time to half past, because gently caress you GMT.
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Oct 29, 2023 14:25
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Time zones should be abolished. They're dumb.
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cat botherer posted:Time zones should be abolished. They're dumb. They are what they are. It’s fine. Set the clock to whatever works for you. If you go to the Maldives they have “island time” which is an hour or two different to whatever it’s supposed to be so that you can wake up in sunshine and get a candle lit dinner on the beach for sunset
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Oct 29, 2023 14:27
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smellmycheese posted:I always have big respect for the nations who set their time to half past, because gently caress you GMT. the state of Indiana does that iirc
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Oct 29, 2023 14:28
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crispix posted:the state of Indiana does that iirc The sub continent of India does it.
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Oct 29, 2023 14:29
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i had a friend who went to indiana university bloomington for a year in the early 2000s on a student exchange programme came back about 3 stone heavier because his student accommodation included a meal plan and the novelty of there being no limitations on the amount he could eat apparently did not wear off
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Oct 29, 2023 14:33
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i think that counted as an effective cultural assimilation hehe
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Oct 29, 2023 14:34
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The state of Indiana doesn't use half hours, but they do use a deliberate nightmare system to drive outsiders insane. This map may not even be right this year, because they keep changing it.
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Oct 29, 2023 14:36
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cat botherer posted:Time zones should be abolished. They're dumb. - Chairman Mao
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Oct 29, 2023 14:44
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Guavanaut posted:Paris sets their clocks wrong on purpose anyway. Shout out to Russia for have a whole bunch of different timezones and still mostly being wrong. Also lol at China's simple "no. it's midday in Beijing, therefore it's midday at the border of loving Tajikistan and Fangchuan Village which is located between the borders of North Korea and Russia leading out to the Sea of Japan."
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Oct 29, 2023 14:45
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smellmycheese posted:I always have big respect for the nations who set their time to half past, because gently caress you GMT. I'm a big fan of the Chinese approach. One time zone across the whole country. Sure, sunrise might be at midnight if you're out on the periphery, and crossing the border over into Pakistan might send you three hours back in time, but everything is good and consistent and gently caress you.
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Oct 29, 2023 14:49
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Xinjiang will never assimilate if they're allowed to set their clocks by primitive superstitions like "where the sun is in the sky" rather than the technocratic and correct standard of "where the sun is in the sky, in Beijing"
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Oct 29, 2023 14:50
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm a big fan of the Chinese approach. One time zone across the whole country. Sure, sunrise might be at midnight if you're out on the periphery, and crossing the border over into Pakistan might send you three hours back in time, but everything is good and consistent and gently caress you. Kind of agree. It’s an excellent demonstration of “time of day is a social construct” I often enjoy pondering this. Which of these is a social construct and which is scientifically correct? Second Minute Hour Day Month Year Sunrise Sunset
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Oct 29, 2023 14:55
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As long as the sun in the sky is red, all is well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNpRbNdR7E
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smellmycheese posted:I always have big respect for the nations who set their time to half past, because gently caress you GMT. Nepal is at a 45 minute offset because they want to be distinct from India.
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Oct 29, 2023 14:59
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Terrifying conversation with two Syrians in work last night. They were talking about the march in London and I said it was amazing how many people turned up. One said they hoped it would help Britain realise that Jews run the country and they would get rid of them then sell weapons to the Palestinians so they could get rid of Israel. The other one was a lot more moderate (not sure how you could be more extreme) and thinks that the U.S. and U.K. should make Israel give the land back and for a two state solution but he also thought that Israel wouldn't honour it and would attack Palestine as soon as they could, mind you he also thinks the Iraqi Dinar is the most powerful currency in the world.
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Oct 29, 2023 15:01
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I think we should be on Summer Time all year round (and even double summer time in the actual summer) This afternoon, sunset is at 16:50 thanks to the GMT. So it will be pitch dark by 530pm & will be dark coming out of work. Surely that will cause more accidents - people tired after a day's work driving home.
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Oct 29, 2023 15:02
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-hvF8NLMRs
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I think we should be on Summer Time all year round (and even double summer time in the actual summer) Have parliament bring in legislation to keep the sun in the sky longer. Hang with those bureaucrats in the E.U. say!
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Oct 29, 2023 15:07
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smellmycheese posted:Kind of agree. It’s an excellent demonstration of “time of day is a social construct” I mean all of those are related to the fundamental movement of the earth around the sun and the effect that has on things living on it, so they are all "scientific" in that sense. The length of the divisions are somewhat arbitrary and powered by inertia and historical errors in measurement, but they're all based on the idea that the earth goes round in a specific amount of time and around the sun in a longer specific amount of time and it's hard to entirely ignore that even with modern technology.
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smellmycheese posted:Kind of agree. It’s an excellent demonstration of “time of day is a social construct” A day being a full rotation of the earth is scientifically correct, we often fudge it because seconds are a construct. A month is a full phase of the moon cycle, and we average it to 28 days, it varies between 27 and 29.5 depending on how you measure it, but the social construction also fudges it because it "appears" to be 28 days, and that's why a fortnight and week are the half month and quarter month. A year is the full cycle of the earth around the sun, and is fudged to 365.25 days which we use a leap year to make it work. It's obviously also not accurate and we actually use atomic clock leap "seconds" to resynchronise timekeeping at the start of each year. A second is arbitrary, a minute is arbitrary. Sunrise and sunset depend wholly upon your specific position your standing and is still fudged.
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Oct 29, 2023 15:08
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I think we should be on Summer Time all year round (and even double summer time in the actual summer) It depends what latitude you are. One of the reasons for having it was to allow Scottish drivers and school kids to see day light in the morning, otherwise most of their year its darkness.
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Oct 29, 2023 15:08
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OwlFancier posted:I mean all of those are related to the fundamental movement of the earth around the sun and the effect that has on things living on it, so they are all "scientific" in that sense. The length of the divisions are somewhat arbitrary and powered by inertia and historical errors in measurement, but they're all based on the idea that the earth goes round in a specific amount of time and around the sun in a longer specific amount of time and it's hard to entirely ignore that even with modern technology. It gets spicier the more you ponder it. Which are true even if I am an alien from Planet Zork?
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bessantj posted:Terrifying conversation with two Syrians in work last night. They were talking about the march in London and I said it was amazing how many people turned up. One said they hoped it would help Britain realise that Jews run the country and they would get rid of them then sell weapons to the Palestinians so they could get rid of Israel. The other one was a lot more moderate (not sure how you could be more extreme) and thinks that the U.S. and U.K. should make Israel give the land back and for a two state solution but he also thought that Israel wouldn't honour it and would attack Palestine as soon as they could, mind you he also thinks the Iraqi Dinar is the most powerful currency in the world. Something something socialism of fools.
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smellmycheese posted:It gets spicier the more you ponder it. Which are true even if I am an alien from Planet Zork? All of them, if you're an alien from planet zork living on earth. If you're living on planet zork then you would probably use either their time system which probably reflects the behaviour of the zorkian astronomical bodies, or some sort of common standard that allows zorkians and earthlings to work together.
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Oct 29, 2023 15:11
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smellmycheese posted:It gets spicier the more you ponder it. Which are true even if I am an alien from Planet Zork? that would explain you are posts
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if the zorkians don't like our constructs they should bleedin well go back to their own planet innit 
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Dabir posted:that would explain you are posts Did you object to the Level 42 one specifically?
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It is possible the zorkians might change the earth's orbital behaviour so they can film our reaction for zikzork. Earthling reacts to interstellar tractor beam making calendar inaccurate (gone wrong) (billions dead from ecologial disruption)
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“I saw a soldier standing in a bar - looked so dark, had come so far He said “I need to love someone , before they drop the atom bomb” Not my words, the words of Level 42 in 1984 and as true now as they were then
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FWIW we do actually have the Planck units to help us translate our arbitrary units to any other planet or solar system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units
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The French Revolution did some interesting calendar things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar But basically they all ended up abandoned. quote:Months
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Oct 29, 2023 15:17
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Devolve time to Holyrood, so they can have their light in the mornings.
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Just use Unix time imho.
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Years before and after the death of our saviour, Alfred Lauck Parson.
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I'm having a great day so far. Had too much to drink last night, so I'm quite hungover. Needed to do some shopping, so got a lift most of the way there, only to break one arm off my glasses trying to clean them while in the car. Popped into the office to drop a couple of bits off and took the time to sellotape the arm back onto my glasses. Got to Stratford Westfield, only to find out that A) the actual shops don't open until 12 (it was 11:30), and B) West Ham are playing at home, so it was impossible to get any food because the football fans were queuing out the door of every one. Went for a wander around the area in the rain while I killed some time, bought a truly disgusting cup of coffee to drink while I walked and discovered that the back of my shoes have disintegrated too much, so I now have blisters. I did manage to get what I went there for, plus some superglue to 'fix' my glasses.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:The French Revolution did some interesting calendar things: This is delightful, thank you. Frostarious Thermidor sounds like something George Lucas would name a background Jedi.
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I'm still mad that September, October, November and December aren't the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th months 
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Guavanaut posted:This is the huge issue with the views in parliament and the media being so far detached from the views of the wider public on this, and there not even being an attempt at a dialog (or even an attempt at rear end covering like with the sewage water). If someone didn't know what was going on I could see why they could come to obviously wrongheaded conclusions like "Jews run the country and media." I think Israel do try to exert strong influence but that's hardly different from any other country in the world we all try and influence people to our way of thinking. Of course Jews running the world is an old antisemitic trope that isn't going to die anytime soon and it's easy for people to fall back on. NoneMoreNegative posted:I'm still mad that September, October, November and December aren't the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th months 
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