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keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I'm still mad that September, October, November and December aren't the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th months :mad:

Julian calender was the superior option.

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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

But otherwise I personally haven't ever found probations to be a particularly effective communication tool. I would rather just reply to people. I don't really understand why mods appear to use them as a method of replying to people.
Sorry to go back to this but I didn't see the point made - you also have to consider the externality of it though.

It's commendable and says a lot about you that you see the role of IK as explaining one-on-one to people who may have gone wrong, but you also have to consider how it makes the moderation look from the perspective of an outside observer.

Do you want someone coming to this thread and seeing a post like that without any sign that it went formally challenged? Just having that "USER WAS BANNED / PROBATED FOR THIS POST" at the bottom of a lovely post is the difference between (a) someone seeing the thread and thinking that kind of opinion will be allowed (or go unmoderated so they can wind everyone up by continuing to post it); and (b)seeing the thread and thinking "not even as a joke, got it."

I'm probably being paranoid, but with all the stuff about the online safety act, and a few pages earlier the stuff about prevent, I am concerned that a screenshot of a left wing thread that contains a post alluding to hitler being right (even as a poor-taste joke) could be used to block SA by an authoritarian government looking to make an example and flex their new powers. And unlike twitter or signal or whatsapp, I really doubt SA has the funds to challenge it if it were to happen.

Or even if it doesn't come down to that, it could very easily be used by the filth to crack down on anyone caught at a protest who also posts here.

I'm not saying that's likely, I'm just saying we are at an absolutely deranged period in history - being arrested for simpsons incest porn would have seemed ridiculous until it wasn't). And part of looking after ourselves as a community means curating that community in a way that makes it clear what we are and are not willing to tolerate.

And not even that, but what if we got a couple of transphobes in here - if they spent pages engaging in 'lively debate' without getting shut down, how does that look to trans members of the forum who might otherwise have felt safe posting here?

Yes there were pages and pages of people telling MB to gently caress off with that poo poo, but if the initial post doesn't have any sign it was formally disapproved of, then you're just leaving the door open for nazis and trolls to poo poo the thread up knowing they won't be stopped.


The Wicked ZOGA posted:

'Oh well you know most of Monica's posts have been ok,
It was more like it was completely out of the blue. Not even like with cryptofascists, where they tend to lead with dogwhistles and give you a hint first - they seemed alright, were integrating well, and then bam. Hitler. What the gently caress. I think it just threw people a bit.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Oct 29, 2023

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


keep punching joe posted:

Julian calender was the superior option.

Lets change and manipulate time!

https://twitter.com/jrhennessy/status/1614077084250550273

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

bessantj posted:

I think Israel do try to exert strong influence but that's hardly different from any other country in the world we all try and influence people to our way of thinking. Of course Jews running the world is an old antisemitic trope that isn't going to die anytime soon and it's easy for people to fall back on.
Whenever some powerful group (an actual one like Parliament or the various press groups) takes a course of action that seems completely at odds with what most people want, and refuses to provide a rationale for it, it amplifies conspiratorial thinking though. People should not fall back on antisemitic tropes, but there is also some responsibility in the halls of power to transparently explain why they have decided what they have decided, otherwise they're just going to cause more of it.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Lmfao I’ve seen plenty of Grauniad bollocks in my time but this is loving amazing

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/oct/29/personal-finance-expert-ramit-sethi-on-taking-the-fear-out-of-money-live-a-rich-life

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The explanation though is that the people who run the country, by virtue of being in the position of running the country, are the same type of murderous psychopaths that run Israel and the US. And the stratification between normal people and the people who run the country is intentional and built into how the economy and the government work.

So I don't think they're able to give the explanation.


That was far too many words of nonsense to get to a point which is also nonsense.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Oct 29, 2023

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Apologies everyone. I’ve been drinkposting. I need to get back to AA this week

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Guavanaut posted:

Whenever some powerful group (an actual one like Parliament or the various press groups) takes a course of action that seems completely at odds with what most people want, and refuses to provide a rationale for it, it amplifies conspiratorial thinking though. People should not fall back on antisemitic tropes, but there is also some responsibility in the halls of power to transparently explain why they have decided what they have decided, otherwise they're just going to cause more of it.

All true. Perhaps if those in the halls of power were responsible we wouldn't have this situation in the first place.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

smellmycheese posted:

Apologies everyone. I’ve been drinkposting. I need to get back to AA this week

I'm not objecting to you posting it I'm agreeing with you that it's a loving awful article. But I hope that things do pick up for you.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



quote:

I only wish I’d met Sethi at college, where he first discovered his innate gift for dispensing advice

Yeah, no thank you.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

I had a flatmate who operated a two days in one policy.

He'd sleep from midnight till 4am, then go to work (postie). Get home around 11am, have a meal and sleep again from noon till 4pm. Then get up and have 8 hours in the evening to be his second day.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

smellmycheese posted:

Did you object to the Level 42 one specifically?

I actually can't think of a single objection I have to you personally, I just know a setup for a punchline when I see one

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That's just biphasic sleep and it turns you into margaret thatcher.

bessantj posted:

Yeah, no thank you.

It is impressive how the majority of the article is the author self identifying as the world's biggest mark.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

TACD posted:

big lols at John Cleese being shocked that he’s suddenly sharing a platform with somebody who doesn’t share his strong moral code!

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1718333819755897146

Huh. Without the mustache he looks like Dawkins

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


keep punching joe posted:

I had a flatmate who operated a two days in one policy.

He'd sleep from midnight till 4am, then go to work (postie). Get home around 11am, have a meal and sleep again from noon till 4pm. Then get up and have 8 hours in the evening to be his second day.

I do something similar if I'm going from a night to a day shift and it really messes with my body clock.

OwlFancier posted:

It is impressive how the majority of the article is the author self identifying as the world's biggest mark.

Yeah stating early that he had drank the Kool-aid makes me want to contact him with an "excellent investment opportunity on the moon."

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

Timezones you say



:australia:

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I think the issue with probing that post is that a sixer/one day almost seems like it’s letting them off the hook too. No ‘formal’ punishment, but it dealt with interpersonally, to me says it’s treated more seriously than pretty much anything but a ban. Fwiw I think you handled it fine Owly and I like your attitude to IKing.

I’d also like to apologise for not visibly condemning the post hard enough initially. As Bobby says, I was really thrown by it and trying to work out wtf MB was doing.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

grobbo posted:

This is delightful, thank you. Frostarious Thermidor sounds like something George Lucas would name a background Jedi.

So in your opinion, forums user "grobbo", Frostarius Thermidor is the star wars name??

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Miftan posted:

So in your opinion, forums user "grobbo", Frostarius Thermidor is the star wars name??

Says poster “Miftan”

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Miftan Grobbo is definitely a character in Rebels.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Miftan Grobbo is definitely a character in Rebels.

I was an extra in episode 3

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

His Divine Shadow posted:

Huh. Without the mustache he looks like Dawkins

Honestly he's starting to look more like Old Hitler in the New Colossus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qry6Ys0Dck

grobbo
May 29, 2014

Miftan posted:

So in your opinion, forums user "grobbo", Frostarius Thermidor is the star wars name??

Look, as we all know, the best Star Wars names come from George Lucas just tossing out whatever free-associated word happened to be in his head at the time, as with Greedo, Darth Plagueis, Darth Icky, Elan Sleazebaggano, or Tarys Chaclat-Oranj.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That last one is from game of thrones not star wars.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Darth Icky?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Kit Fisto

Chewie's pervert father is called Itchy.

grobbo
May 29, 2014

It's (almost) from the Force Unleashed video games, and personally, I think it's sad we never got to see him in action.

quote:

A developer who worked on The Force Unleashed recounted how the team tried to convince George Lucas to give Starkiller a “Darth” moniker, a title that would give their game’s main character “more credibility.” Although Lucas didn’t often bestow the coveted “Darth” name to characters unless they were in the movies, he agreed with The Force Unleashed team. But what these developers didn’t expect was that his suggested “Darth” names would be so terrible.

“He threw out ‘Darth Icky’ and ‘Darth Insanius,’” the Force Unleashed developer told Game Informer. “There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say ‘just kidding,’ but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point.”

Star Wars is of course known for a tradition of ridiculous space names but “Darth Icky” was where the development team felt the line should be drawn. According to Game Informer, the team convinced Lucas that they should wait until a sequel to finally give Starkiller a “Darth” name, putting the matter to rest. The subject was never revisited, per the outlet.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Elon Musk, Star Wars name or WarHams name?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

grobbo posted:

It's (almost) from the Force Unleashed video games, and personally, I think it's sad we never got to see him in action.

That happened as well on the behind the scenes doc on making of Phantom Menance.
Lucas is up explaining poo poo about something, and you can see everyone else go goggle eyed as in 'what the gently caress am I hearing'.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

grobbo posted:

It's (almost) from the Force Unleashed video games, and personally, I think it's sad we never got to see him in action.

Lmao Lucas clearly just bored with this poo poo.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Lucas is a genius and those bozos needed to listen up!

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

grobbo posted:

Some day I hope we find out why Perry decided to state repeatedly in his book that he wished death upon his neighbour, Keanu Reeves.
Looks like Keanu finally got his revenge.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

grobbo posted:

Some day I hope we find out why Perry decided to state repeatedly in his book that he wished death upon his neighbour, Keanu Reeves.

There's got to be a really fun and juicy story there, I refuse to believe it was just a poorly chosen target for the joke.

Perry died yesterday so I doubt we ever will.

Drowned in his hot tub:

https://pagesix.com/2023/10/29/entertainment/prescription-drugs-found-in-matthew-perrys-home-after-death-report/

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"poo poo talk me in a book again now."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su8Y8FiBGnQ

grobbo
May 29, 2014

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Looks like Keanu finally got his revenge.

I laughed out loud, and then felt absolutely terrible about it.

Someone sent me a stage manager's story earlier today about working with Matthew Perry and he doesn't come across well, but God, did it make me feel for the man in a 'he sounds remarkably like Bojack Horseman could have been based on him' sort of way.

quote:

The show that caused my career to take off the way it did was a show I did with Matthew. This was maybe 8/9 years ago. It was a play he wrote and starred in that had premiered on the West End and then moved... Off-Broadway.

In my 15 year career as a stage manager for theater, this was probably the worst play I've ever worked on. It was a truly trite and awful piece of poo poo that was clearly something he thought was "auto-biographical." It was a play about an alcoholic who fell in love with a high-end escort. The entire premise of the show was to equate alcoholism - a tragic disease that Matthew suffered from- with being a sex-worker who had a thriving career, social life, and love life. He wrote the thing like an episode of Friends, and the play ended with the escort agreeing to give up her lucrative career for his character, but never addressed whether his character gave up being a "functioning" alcoholic. No matter how often the cast and creative team had sit down conversations about how the play was problematic, he refused to listen.

He was a very charming guy. I felt for him, and tried to make his life on the show as comfortable and easy as possible. I took extra pains explaining to my team and the props folks the urgency of absolutely scrubbing all of the prop beer bottles out entirely, knowing that even the smell can trigger an alcoholic. One time in rehearsal I handed him a freshly washed out prop beer bottle and he asked me "Is this clean? If it even smells like booze, you won't see me for a week, and when you do, it'll be because I set this studio on fire."

At that time I was a smoker, and so was he. Because of his star power, the rehearsal studio agreed to let him smoke in one of the stairwells knowing he couldn't just go out and smoke on the NYC streets in the middle of Times Square. He insisted I should be allowed to smoke with him, too. I think he wanted company. One time, during a matinee performance, he went outside to smoke in the alley. The alley had two doors, one, the stage door at the end of the alley, the other, just before that, a door leading to the very front of house. After his smoke, he confidently threw open the house door during the only dramatic scene in the show. I made a sign that just said "NO MATTHEW" and slapped it on that door after that.

During a show one night, I was waiting with him to make one of his entrances while the only actor of color in the whole show was onstage doing a scene, and he made a racist joke to me, kind of at her expense, kind of also just a stupid stereotype. I told him it was a racist joke. He got super defensive and said "It was just a joke." I told him saying it was just a joke was something a racist person would say. He worked really hard to get back into my good graces, and was overly friendly to me the rest of the week. Me, an absolute no one. I could tell it was the one of the few times someone had called him out and shut him down.

I hope your loved ones and fans find peace, and are able to celebrate your memory.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

The French Revolution did some interesting calendar things:

In Britain, a contemporary wit mocked the Republican Calendar by calling the months: Wheezy, Sneezy and Freezy; Slippy, Drippy and Nippy; Showery, Flowery and Bowery; Hoppy, Croppy and Poppy.[12][13] The historian Thomas Carlyle suggested somewhat more serious English names in his 1837 work The French Revolution: A History,[11] namely Vintagearious, Fogarious, Frostarious, Snowous, Rainous, Windous, Buddal, Floweral, Meadowal, Reapidor, Heatidor, and Fruitidor. Like the French originals, they are neologisms suggesting a meaning related to the season.

The Czech calendar is a bit similar (not the Slovak one though which is standard Julian because reasons), it goes:

Icy, Burrow-y, Birch-y, Oak-y, Bloomy, Crimson, Crimsoner, Sickle-y, Radiant, Pregnant, Leaffall and Pleading

E: Looked up etymology for Brezen and fixed the translation.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Oct 29, 2023

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

The French Revolution did some interesting calendar things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar

But basically they all ended up abandoned.

And a happy 8 Brumaire to you too.

I briefly got obsessed with the Republican calendar after listening to the Revolutions podcast, and discovered that no-one online sells a wall calendar version. I blame the lingering influence of the Bourbons.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


The best calendar is the one from Jostein Gaarder's The Solitaire Mystery based on a pack of cards.

https://www.tumblr.com/memeengine/32358150248/the-solitaire-calendar-the-solitaire-calendar-has

Also it should start in March (or the equivalent) because New Year should be in spring, not the middle of winter.

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

Private Speech posted:

The Czech calendar is a bit similar (not the Slovak one though which is standard Julian because reasons), it goes:

Icy, Burrow-y, Birch-y, Oak-y, Bloomy, Crimson, Crimsoner, Sickle-y, Radiant, Pregnant, Leaffall and Pleading

E: Looked up etymology for Brezen and fixed the translation.

I visited Croatia in summer and then Czechia recently and I found the totally different, Slavic names for days of the week and months in both countries to be unexpectedly disorientating. The European counties I normally visit (including Greece, for example) all use some variant of the Roman day and months names and you just get used to being able to read and work out a date.

The more traditional Slavic month names are cool.

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Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


The days of the week are a bit more boring, but anyway in Czech they go: After-division-day/After-non-work-day, Next-day, Middle-day, Fourth-day, Fifth-day, Sabbath and Division-day/non-work-day.

The English ones are cooler if anything IMO.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Oct 29, 2023

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