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I wonder if there’s a play to trade for him, wait for Ohtani to sign somewhere, and then negotiate an extension that puts Soto in similar company as Ohtani’s deal. Ohtani is the better player right now but every team can afford whatever his contract is and 10 years of Soto starting at age 25 is as close as you’re gonna get to a decently-aging long-term contract. This is delusional. I know this. I don’t care.
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Any team trading for Soto has to get permission to talk to boras first and negotiate an extension framework, no? It would be insane to give up more than a pittance to the Padres otherwise. Are they allowed to do NBA-style sign-and-trades in the MLB?
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It depends on the cost. Like if it really just takes a Morel then you can take the risk on one year of Soto. But if it’s a bigger package then you probably need more assurance it’s not a rental. But that also certainly depends on the team and where they’re at. And whether this happens in the winter or at the deadline. So I don’t know.
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:Any team trading for Soto has to get permission to talk to boras first and negotiate an extension framework, no? It would be insane to give up more than a pittance to the Padres otherwise. Are they allowed to do NBA-style sign-and-trades in the MLB? They can ask but unless they want to just cut him a check for $600 million, he's probably not going to sign.
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Yeah at best you’re gonna get an empty promise that you’ll get a chance to negotiate before free agency. But anything short of a blow away deal will just be rejected unless he’s secretly hiding a robotic ankle or something.
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:Any team trading for Soto has to get permission to talk to boras first and negotiate an extension framework, no? It would be insane to give up more than a pittance to the Padres otherwise. Are they allowed to do NBA-style sign-and-trades in the MLB? It's irrelevant really. Boras clients don't sign extensions, not unless Boras is convinced he won't get a dollar more on the open market. Anyone trading for Soto is acquiring only one (1) year of his services. After that if they want to employ him they'll have to pay full retail price--the same as if they'd just waited until next winter to sign him as a free agent.
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mcmagic posted:They got NOTHING out of Severino, Cortes and Rodon and still had the 9th best ERA in the majors as a team. The lineup is by far the bigger need. Yeah and you think that is repeatable? There is zero reason not to be all over Yamamoto in addition to finding offensive help. If you end up moving Schmidt for a bat you are replacing him with Yamamoto which is uh... more than likely significantly upgrading. It's only money and the dude is a huge star in Japan, they used to be all about those guys
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Soto isn't signing an extension, he is purely a rental. Don't make me tap the sign.
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Nodoze posted:Yeah and you think that is repeatable? There is zero reason not to be all over Yamamoto in addition to finding offensive help. If you end up moving Schmidt for a bat you are replacing him with Yamamoto which is uh... more than likely significantly upgrading. Yeah I think 9th is repeatable. They will get more from Rodon/Cortes and whoever takes Sevy's spot than they did last year. If they are going to sign Yamamoto and ALSO put in the necessary resources toward turning over the offense then I'm cool with that. I just don't believe Hal is going to do that.
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I think they’ll probably make a run at Yamamoto but it’s always a question of whether their scouting matches the price tag. But there will probably be more pressure to make the signing they can sell in a press conference. In some scenario they hold a joint pc after the winter meetings with Yamamoto and Bellinger and make a hard press in the media that it represents a change.
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STAC Goat posted:I think they’ll probably make a run at Yamamoto but it’s always a question of whether their scouting matches the price tag. But there will probably be more pressure to make the signing they can sell in a press conference. In some scenario they hold a joint pc after the winter meetings with Yamamoto and Bellinger and make a hard press in the media that it represents a change. Bellinger would be a HIGHLY risky signing. It makes much more sense this offseason to go with multiple lower dollar changes and not high ticket items because as i keep saying like a broken clock the lineup needs to be completely revamped. I won't view this offseason as a success unless they have at least 4-5 different starters in the lineup vs last year.
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That’s not happening so congrats on being free to complain. I don’t necessarily thing Yamamoto or Bellinger are slam dunk signings. But if the Yankees want to make a splash and aren’t willing or able to go after Ohtani or Soto then they’re probably the 1-2 combo that could create a narrative shift and potentially actually help the team.
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STAC Goat posted:That’s not happening so congrats on being free to complain. I think it will be somewhere between what they need to do and your insane expectation of running back the worst yankee team in 30 years with 1 new guy.
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Exodor posted:It's so loving stupid and I know the Royals are going to somehow get hosed because of it. Speaking of the Royals getting treated unfairly, here's a snippet from the on-going trial of Sam Bankman-Fried: 
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https://twitter.com/BizballMaury/status/1718326149447872921 thread by far my favorite is Phillies which is just a baseball player smoking a cigarette but the cigarette is also part of a baseball Intruder fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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You can't fool me the Pirates one is just Charlie Blackmon in a hat.
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Sydin posted:Soto isn't signing an extension, he is purely a rental. Don't make me tap the sign. It still wasn't a bad deal imo. The playoffs didn't pan out last year and this year was about as hosed as you can get from a run differential standpoint. Sprinkle in some injuries and it was just getting a bad 2023 hand dealt.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:It still wasn't a bad deal imo. I 100% agree. Seidler is a loving coward and he should be running it back instead of panicking and slashing payroll. The Padres have a shitload of talent on the books and there's no way they're actually a true 82 win team. Alas dipshit billionaires gonna dipshit billionaire.
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mcmagic posted:Yeah I think 9th is repeatable. They will get more from Rodon/Cortes and whoever takes Sevy's spot than they did last year. If they are going to sign Yamamoto and ALSO put in the necessary resources toward turning over the offense then I'm cool with that. I just don't believe Hal is going to do that. Cortes and Rodon right now can't be trusted and going into the season with the same staff and assuming they'll be better than last year just because is dumb and I'd expect you to know that. Also have to account for the fact Cole might have some kind of drop off too I want no part of Bellinger, I don't trust his come back. Yes the offense needs work
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I think we can all agree that this roster needs more than they reasonably will get in one year, both because this market is thin outside of Ohtani and Yamamoto and because Cashman and Hal aren’t going to the Cohen bracket, which would be necessary to fully rebuild in one offseason. I agree that Bellinger is probably smoke. I hope it’s not but I don’t think they’re in a position to take a nine figure risk on one good season propped up by shaky peripherals. I believe the scouting consensus on Yamamoto is a #2/1a, which would be a huge addition over everyone but Cole. He’ll also pay for himself over the contract given his fame in Japan. I think mcmagic is right that the team needs to upgrade its depth and role players but I think they don’t want to trade the young guys to get a bunch of older 2-WAR dudes. On the FA market, Kermeier, Candelario, Urshela all seem like good adds but only Kermeier has an obvious position to fill without blocking a younger player they’re hot on, or an existing old player they’re financially committed to. We’ve all played OOTP. This is one of those times when you’re stuck paying the back ends of contracts you signed when the window was wide open and you’re gonna suck for a while until you’re out from under them or some prospects pan out. Well Played Mauer fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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Intruder posted:https://twitter.com/BizballMaury/status/1718326149447872921
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https://twitter.com/D1SCHER/status/1718658229318963604 It's Nightengale so it's not true but it'd be pretty cool.
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live with fruit posted:https://twitter.com/D1SCHER/status/1718658229318963604 
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Intruder posted:https://twitter.com/BizballMaury/status/1718326149447872921 I don't have twitter so I can't seem to see the thread - can some kind soul please post/link them here?
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I'll post the Phillies one, my favorite also look at that bat
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Intruder posted:I'll post the Phillies one, my favorite
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Intruder posted:https://twitter.com/BizballMaury/status/1718326149447872921 i thought it's a ray of light now and not a stupid fish?
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Intruder posted:I'll post the Phillies one, my favorite The Phillies went all in on non-euclidean batting and vibes the last two seasons, so this checks out.
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mcmagic posted:i thought it's a ray of light now and not a stupid fish? It's both.
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Rays are dope and not stupid, hth
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maffew buildings posted:Rays are dope and not stupid, hth This take is so bad that it makes all your yankee hating look reasonable.
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maffew buildings posted:Rays are dope and not stupid, hth This man speaks the truth.
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mcmagic posted:This take is so bad that it makes all your yankee hating look reasonable. Steve Irwin's widow hates Rays less than you.
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Tony Phillips posted:Steve Irwin's widow hates Rays less than you. The fish or the light?
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