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OgNar posted:Oooh, next week will be fun. I would give any of my Earthly possessions to be in the courtroom those days.
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Gyges posted:I imagine it took days of discussion to figure out the order to call the kids in. Like, do you want to start with the coke head, or the one who is dumb by Trump standards? Some real tough pros and cons comparisons going on there. Plus you've got to figure in whether you want to start or end with the competent one who seems to have realized they were in way over their head, and that this was all jeopardizing her personal grift journey. Call Tiffany first before they all try and flip on her. Nervous posted:Judge makes him snort the entire bag right there in front of the court as punishment. Then jail. Maybe he makes him continue testifying before jail. Also a nominal fine. Don Jr.: Punishment? I was going to do the whole bag at once anyway.
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OgNar posted:Oooh, next week will be fun. I'm revising my prediction Don Jr - Don't know nothing your honor! Eric - IT WAS DON JR Ivanka - IT WAS DON JR Donald - IT WAS DON JR SAD!
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Trump Legal Troubles: He's gagging for a gagging.
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I would like very much for him to continue pushing the line and to end up jailed.
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"Funny, I don't feel gagged.. "
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"You can't tweet here, this is the Gag Room!"
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I would like very much for him to continue pushing the line and to end up jailed. I doubt that's even possible. The court is playing extremely cautiously and he could probably literally set a court order on fire right there in the courtroom and just get a small fine and a stern warning. Any of his co-conspirators, yes, so they're all being careful, but you're not going to see a former president jailed for contempt. No court would dare set that precedent.
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The Bible posted:No court would dare set that precedent. I think a court very much should set that precedent, because it is the idea that all are equal under the law.
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Discendo Vox posted:Trump Legal Troubles: He's gagging for a gagging. Don't kink shame
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Jesus III posted:Don't kink shame Trump Legal Troubles: We're gagging for a gagging.
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Discendo Vox posted:Trump Legal Troubles: We're gagging for a gagging. Trump Legal Troubles: Bring Out the Gimp
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Hillary should start turning up to his court cases. Sit in the public gallery and just watch. He would go out of his mind.
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knox_harrington posted:Hillary should start turning up to his court cases. Sit in the public gallery and just watch. He would go out of his mind. Hillary and Obama, just sitting in the front row, laughing, would just infuriate him into doing the stupidest poo poo you can think of. It would be like xmas and a birthday rolled into one.
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OgNar posted:Hillary and Obama, just sitting in the front row, laughing, would just infuriate him into doing the stupidest poo poo you can think of. 
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I think a court very much should set that precedent, because it is the idea that all are equal under the law. Yeah but we all know that rich powerful people are more equal than the rest of us.
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Everyone keeps forgetting that Jr. is the (relatively) smart one. Eric on the stand is gonna be a train wreck. I’m expecting some Kit Daniels level poo poo.
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knox_harrington posted:Hillary should start turning up to his court cases. Sit in the public gallery and just watch. He would go out of his mind. I know this is a joke, but that would be a terrible idea. There's a reason that Democrats are largely trying to stay at arms length from the trials, because anything like that will be seen by Trump's supporters as proof that it's all a witch-hunt, and any crumb given would help them convince others on the fence of that
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Hopefully, anyone outside the cult has given up trying to mollify the cult. It would be loving hilarious, one for the ages, and he would have a thrombo.
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Senor Tron posted:I know this is a joke, but that would be a terrible idea. There's a reason that Democrats are largely trying to stay at arms length from the trials, because anything like that will be seen by Trump's supporters as proof that it's all a witch-hunt, and any crumb given would help them convince others on the fence of that Compromise : Kathy Griffin.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I think a court very much should set that precedent, because it is the idea that all are equal under the law. That very clearly is not the case, though, and no judge sitting today is going to suggest it is.
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The Bible posted:I doubt that's even possible. The court is playing extremely cautiously and he could probably literally set a court order on fire right there in the courtroom and just get a small fine and a stern warning. As far as I'm aware, it's pretty rare for people to get jailed for contempt, especially for something minor like "stop tweeting about my clerks". Federal contempt law and jurisprudence is (to my layman's eyes) annoyingly complex even by law standards, but the general rule of thumb seems to be that the power to summarily jail someone with minimal due process is a power that judges are expected to exercise rarely and only when really necessary. If Trump ignores enough fines, he may eventually get jailed, but this isn't something so urgent that the judge doesn't have time to see if fines solve the problem first.
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The Bible posted:That very clearly is not the case, though, and no judge sitting today is going to suggest it is. No I think you’re wrong. That’s rather point of all of this. That’s the reason any of this is happening.
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Oh, well. Shouldn't commit 91 felonies then. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1718914651248087450
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Charlz Guybon posted:Oh, well. Shouldn't commit 91 felonies then. DONATE NOW FOR 1,000X MATCH. ARE YOU MAGA ENOUGH?
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Meh, 100 milly isn't a big deal for a multi-billionaire. Why does he care?
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Main Paineframe posted:As far as I'm aware, it's pretty rare for people to get jailed for contempt, especially for something minor like "stop tweeting about my clerks". Federal contempt law and jurisprudence is (to my layman's eyes) annoyingly complex even by law standards, but the general rule of thumb seems to be that the power to summarily jail someone with minimal due process is a power that judges are expected to exercise rarely and only when really necessary. If Trump ignores enough fines, he may eventually get jailed, but this isn't something so urgent that the judge doesn't have time to see if fines solve the problem first. It makes for great TV drama when an overgrown Oompa Loompa thumbs their nose enough times at court procedures to cause the exasperated judge to throw the RULEBREAKER in jail. You get a nice pre credit scene where a reporter asks the dude from his jail cell if it was worth it. Regardless of the answer you get the message that of of course crime doesn't pay! In the real world enough follow throughs on contempt can be cause to show that there was bias and the defender didn't get a fair trial. The the message is: if the judge and the court can't stand their feelings getting hurt or breaches of decorum, then crime can indeed pay.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Compromise : Kathy Griffin. Nah, Rosie O' Donnell Make that dish of revenge cold.
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Again, though, people who aren't getting the Emerald+ Tier legal experience go from zero to 'Get hosed, loser. Contempt, lock 'em up" all the time. Every step of the way, EVERY one, this has demonstrated that we have a two tier justice system and no, everybody is not equal under the law. Some are more equal than others.
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Main Paineframe posted:As far as I'm aware, it's pretty rare for people to get jailed for contempt, especially for something minor like "stop tweeting about my clerks". Eh, Engoron and Chutkan both recognize that Trumps tweets are directing his followers to perform acts of violence. Murgos fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Oct 30, 2023 |
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I used to work the child support circuit and those guys get thrown in jail all the time for contempt
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Bar Ran Dun posted:No I think you’re wrong. That’s rather point of all of this. That’s the reason any of this is happening. That's how it should be, I agree, but that isn't how it is, and I can't fathom how anyone can think otherwise. Forget Trump's crimes for a moment and just imagine his behavior in court and how it would go for a poor person. The law is very clearly not applied equally to everyone.
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Chutkan's order lifting the stay on the gag order: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.124.0.pdfquote:...he asserts that the court “cite[d] no evidence supporting its findings of risks of harassment and witness intimidation, and the prosecution provided none.” Murgos fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Oct 30, 2023 |
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I used to work the child support circuit and those guys get thrown in jail all the time for contempt A woman got 90 days (cut down to one) for laughing during her daughter’s DUI homicide trial.
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I used to work the child support circuit and those guys get thrown in jail all the time for contempt Well, yeah, somebody failing or refusing to make a court-ordered payment is a problem that's very unlikely to be solved by the court ordering that person to pay a fine. It's pretty much a perfect example of a problem that begs for a solution besides fines.
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