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Housh
Jul 9, 2001




Nvidia game ready drivers are always a poo poo show. I learned the hard way to just download the Studio drivers or GRD that version number match the stable studio release.

Also, XMP with DDR5 on Gigabyte boards is flaky af.

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ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Have a very weird issue with steam and steam only when pinned to the taskbar. It'll take 15-30 seconds to bring the window up when I click on the icon, and if I happen to spam click it a couple of times and then close steam, steam will then re-launch until the queue of clicks is cleared.

Is there a fix for this? It was fine a few months back.


It's the AMD iGPU :doh:

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

redeyes posted:

Get Everything search like a normal nerd. Instant searches over many drives.

I replaced Where Is It with Everything. I mount external drives in a folder with a descriptive name. And then set Everything to keep the index for disconnected drives.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Just a heads-up that Windows 11 downloaded an AMD display driver update a few days ago, version 31.0.14058.6003, which caused loads of random stutters to my system (Ryzen 5 5600GE) and made them a lot worse when Chrome was playing any video. So if you have an AMD system that has started to feel terrible to use in the past week, look for that.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Flipperwaldt posted:

I've been using Open-Shell since Windows 8 to replace the start menu and the search finds me program/app names and those config items, even the descriptive alts, and nothing else. Consistently quickly. I like the windows 95 styling, but you can set it to look like XP if you want. If I'm looking for file names, I'll use Everything. Every so often I'll think it's a ridiculous situation that shouldn't be and try to raw dog the OS as it is, but that never lasts.

I've known about Open-Shell for years, but this post got me to finally try it. It's great, I have a nice minimal start menu, and I can pick custom colors for the taskbar and taskbar text. Nice! Still going to mostly use Keyperinha for launching and file browsing, but this thing is a sight for sore eyes.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
Had never heard of OpenShell, tried it just now and my god. This is good stuff.

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
Can i get a link to openshell?

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot

god please help me posted:

Can i get a link to openshell?

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Neat, Windows Defender now falsely triggers on an existing unmodified installation of Transmission 4.0.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
"utorrent 2.2.1 ought to be enough for anybody" -bill gates, probably

Nolgthorn
Jan 30, 2001

The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense
Every time my computer goes to sleep or the screen turns off the whole thing locks up and I have to reset. Some searching has uncovered this is related to my AMD graphics card, I've tried a few things including ensuring the bios was up to date, editing the registry entry for ULPS to off, setting everything to high performance, using the amd removal utility before re-installing adrenaline from scratch.

I still have the same issue. I dunno.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Nolgthorn posted:

Every time my computer goes to sleep or the screen turns off the whole thing locks up and I have to reset. Some searching has uncovered this is related to my AMD graphics card, I've tried a few things including ensuring the bios was up to date, editing the registry entry for ULPS to off, setting everything to high performance, using the amd removal utility before re-installing adrenaline from scratch.

I still have the same issue. I dunno.

Can you describe "locks up" with more detail? Does the screen actually come back with your desktop, but frozen? Bluescreen? Or does it just never display picture until you reset?

After having the problem, can you look at the Event Viewer to see if there are logs with information about what happened.


A thing you could try would be making a linux bootable USB stick, boot to that, and try making it sleep and come back. If it fails on a totally different OS, you have some sort of hardware weirdness and want to concentrate on hardware diagnostics. If it works, you know there is something messed up in Windows or drivers and to concentrate there.


Which thing did you search that points to the AMD GPU being the problem? Because sometimes you have to be cautious of what randos online say, because there are fanboys will just say AMD GPU is the problem with no real basis. Keep an open mind unless you have some evidence like event logs, or maybe it worked before a driver update then it was hosed.

(Not to say that AMD GPUs / drivers can't be the problem. I had a 5700 and a few years ago there was a 3 month period where it would occasionally fail to resume from sleep if I made any alterations to the power settings, even just the fan curve. But that had a pretty obvious cause: it worked fine, then AMD put out new drivers with a major update to power control stuff. And eventually it got better. RDNA1 was kinda bad.)

down1nit
Jan 10, 2004

outlive your enemies

Falcon2001 posted:

Yeah this is me as well, I've just accepted that apparently I have a secret magic Windows key that unlocks the working version or something, or that SA is somehow connected to multiple mandela effect worlds or something. Like, I believe people when they say it's terrible, it's just baffling because it basically almost always works for me. Win11 introduced some hitching, but not enough to be a real issue, and my work laptop doesn't have anything aftermarket.

As a repair guy seeing all these reports of slow start menu issues makes me think there's at least something there, old hard drives? Bad drivers?

But at the same time, people treat their computers like poo poo a lot too. Especially fuckin nerds. Clean your fans, redo thermal paste, unfuck your temp files, uninstall everything you can live without for now (java, old office installs, trial VPN packages etc) and run an "in place install*" of the latest Windows 11 ISO. I'd also let everything update and then apply manual updates to drivers and the BIOS just for fun. This is my method. It works nearly 60% of the time for older installs you don't want to gently caress with.

* backup your documents and porn, make a Bootable win 11 USB drive but don't boot from it, run setup.exe and choose upgrade. It'll just do a full replacement of all files, permissions, ownership blah blah that it touches.

runaway dog
Dec 11, 2005

I rarely go into the field, motherfucker.
Being able to put end task into the taskbar right click menu might be top 5 windows updates features.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

down1nit posted:

As a repair guy seeing all these reports of slow start menu issues makes me think there's at least something there, old hard drives? Bad drivers?

Windows search indexing is terrible and has never been 100% reliable in any version of Windows. I assume they can never purge the taint of Nyarlathotep (the patron god of Windows Vista) that exists in its codebase.

A solid way to never have any problems with type-to-find in the start menu is to purge your search database, then turn off content indexing for Documents and such. (And then turn off Bing in the start menu.)

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

runaway dog posted:

Being able to put end task into the taskbar right click menu might be top 5 windows updates features.

Is that a thing you can do now?

down1nit
Jan 10, 2004

outlive your enemies

Klyith posted:

Windows search indexing is terrible and has never been 100% reliable in any version of Windows. I assume they can never purge the taint of Nyarlathotep (the patron god of Windows Vista) that exists in its codebase.

A solid way to never have any problems with type-to-find in the start menu is to purge your search database, then turn off content indexing for Documents and such. (And then turn off Bing in the start menu.)

Hard agree. Windows start menu search is truly embarrassing in 2023. My fuckin Zune could search id3 tags flawlessly and it ran on a magic peanut of a processor.

Like, they made a search engine company. A few times. Surely they learned a bit?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Nolgthorn posted:

Every time my computer goes to sleep or the screen turns off the whole thing locks up and I have to reset. Some searching has uncovered this is related to my AMD graphics card, I've tried a few things including ensuring the bios was up to date, editing the registry entry for ULPS to off, setting everything to high performance, using the amd removal utility before re-installing adrenaline from scratch.

I still have the same issue. I dunno.

Did you turn Fast Startup off? Not sure if it's related but it's my first port of call with sleep issues

zachol
Feb 13, 2009

Once per turn, you can Tribute 1 WATER monster you control (except this card) to Special Summon 1 WATER monster from your hand. The monster Special Summoned by this effect is destroyed if "Raging Eria" is removed from your side of the field.
My constant problem with the start menu (and a lot of programs in general) is that my internet is dogshit laggy. Even when a program is doing something "small" in terms of data transfers, when there's a lot of traffic back and forth that needs to happen sequentially it just sits there.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
I've got a 3 monitor setup (sort of).

Essentially there's an HDTV (to my left on a separate table for gaming) and then there's my two monitors in front of me.

I've got the display setup going left to right in that order (TV, monitor, monitor) so that it's easy to keep track of the mouse, though I have the middle monitor set as the primary display as the TV is only switched on for gaming.

The issue I'm having is that sometimes after the TV is switched on (and has then been switched off/put on standby), new apps being opened do so on the TV rather than on the monitor I activated the application in.

I'm getting that it's basically opening things on the leftmost screen irrespective of which one is the primary display, but is there a way to prevent that from happening? It's a bit annoying to have to switch the TV back on and drag the application back onto my already active monitors.

It probably wouldn't be a problem if the TV was fully shut down, but standby is the only off setting it has unless I get up to turn it off at the wall.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Kin posted:

I've got a 3 monitor setup (sort of).

Essentially there's an HDTV (to my left on a separate table for gaming) and then there's my two monitors in front of me.

I've got the display setup going left to right in that order (TV, monitor, monitor) so that it's easy to keep track of the mouse, though I have the middle monitor set as the primary display as the TV is only switched on for gaming.

The issue I'm having is that sometimes after the TV is switched on (and has then been switched off/put on standby), new apps being opened do so on the TV rather than on the monitor I activated the application in.

I'm getting that it's basically opening things on the leftmost screen irrespective of which one is the primary display, but is there a way to prevent that from happening? It's a bit annoying to have to switch the TV back on and drag the application back onto my already active monitors.

a. Have you tried fiddling with the Win+P display thingy? I think it is at least half-smart about stuff like this. So if you start out with just the 2 monitors active in display settings and then use Win+P to turn on the TV, a second use of Win+P will go back to 2 monitors rather than disconnect both.

b. Set the TV to mirror one of the monitors rather than extend? This will have a different set of annoyances if neither of 2 monitors are the same resolution as the TV.

c. Check out DisplayFusion? It's not free, but you can try it out and see if it solves everything well enough to pay for.


Kin posted:

It probably wouldn't be a problem if the TV was fully shut down, but standby is the only off setting it has unless I get up to turn it off at the wall.

If it's connected via HDMI, you'd probably have to pull the plug. HDMI has passive connection sense, so even when you really turn off a monitor the OS tends to keep the display active. Under the presumption you'll turn it back on and if you really wanted it gone you'd unplug it.

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

Does nothing just by being installed.

bobua
Mar 23, 2003
I'd trade it all for just a little more.

down1nit posted:

As a repair guy seeing all these reports of slow start menu issues makes me think there's at least something there, old hard drives? Bad drivers?

But at the same time, people treat their computers like poo poo a lot too. Especially fuckin nerds. Clean your fans, redo thermal paste, unfuck your temp files, uninstall everything you can live without for now (java, old office installs, trial VPN packages etc) and run an "in place install*" of the latest Windows 11 ISO. I'd also let everything update and then apply manual updates to drivers and the BIOS just for fun. This is my method. It works nearly 60% of the time for older installs you don't want to gently caress with.

* backup your documents and porn, make a Bootable win 11 USB drive but don't boot from it, run setup.exe and choose upgrade. It'll just do a full replacement of all files, permissions, ownership blah blah that it touches.


I've seen the start menu type errors on a LOT of pcs. A lot at offices where they use their pcs simply as terminals to a web app, 0 customization or junk. Its always around windows updates. Sadly, its on surface pros a lot which seems inexcusable as far as hardware compatibility.

Dessel
Feb 21, 2011

I just got 23H12 and I swear it did something to font rendering....for the better? Maybe. Which sounds a little bizarre having heard all about how Microsoft is about to discontinue ClearType and all. Hopefully File explorer/home popping on the foreground was finally fixed.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

bobua posted:

I've seen the start menu type errors on a LOT of pcs. A lot at offices where they use their pcs simply as terminals to a web app, 0 customization or junk. Its always around windows updates. Sadly, its on surface pros a lot which seems inexcusable as far as hardware compatibility.

Yeah, I think some have their anecdotes about things working fine, and hand wave the problems away. Start and search have had real problems for years, and have nothing to do with one-off issues

down1nit
Jan 10, 2004

outlive your enemies

MikusR posted:

Does nothing just by being installed.

Java update is a scheduled task. Just disable it. Just know about task scheduler man.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Dessel posted:

having heard all about how Microsoft is about to discontinue ClearType and all.
Wait what now? Some new subpixel rendering tech, or just plain supersampling like everyone else?

—edit: Yeah, DirectWrite ClearType doesn’t use RGB subgrids anymore. Word does use it since Version 2013. Explains why its document rendering looked like poo poo to me for years now. Excel and Chrome still use regular ClearType and look nicer.

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Nov 3, 2023

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Combat Pretzel posted:

Wait what now? Some new subpixel rendering tech, or just plain supersampling like everyone else?

—edit: Yeah, DirectWrite ClearType doesn’t use RGB subgrids anymore. Word does use it since Version 2013. Explains why its document rendering looked like poo poo to me for years now. Excel and Chrome still use regular ClearType and look nicer.

Yeah they made horrible decisions in the win 8 era, everyone's going to be on sideways and upside down tablets, who needs subpixel rendering?

Imo it should only be disabled over a certain density, which decent tablets and phones achieve anyway, but on the average pc screen, but no, just a blanket thing

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

HalloKitty posted:

Yeah they made horrible decisions in the win 8 era, everyone's going to be on sideways and upside down tablets, who needs subpixel rendering?
It’s not like these devices have a gyroscope for orientation control.

Shredder
Sep 14, 2000

just picked up the microcenter 13700k bundle to replace my 8700k, is this good now or should I just stick with win10? I mostly play games.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

Shredder posted:

just picked up the microcenter 13700k bundle to replace my 8700k, is this good now or should I just stick with win10? I mostly play games.

It depends how attached you are to the start menu and taskbar. The changes there don't bother me, so I've been happy with 11.

Shredder
Sep 14, 2000

hooah posted:

It depends how attached you are to the start menu and taskbar. The changes there don't bother me, so I've been happy with 11.

I mostly use the start menu to type what I want and hit enter, or right click and open computer management. I suppose the taskbar I don't really care about, most things hide in the tray these days.

Cosmetics can be fixed to preference I assume, more curious if there's any functional deficiencies.

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


Shredder posted:

just picked up the microcenter 13700k bundle to replace my 8700k, is this good now or should I just stick with win10? I mostly play games.

Technically, the 13th gen CPUs are not fully supported by Windows 10, because it can't properly prioritize which cores should handle which tasks. If games are affected by this, it usually causes stuttering and maybe some desync stuff. Will it affect you/your games? No way to know. I'd lean toward upgrading (getting a 13700k is why I upgraded to Win11 myself) but you can wait and see if you prefer.

Shredder
Sep 14, 2000

disaster pastor posted:

Technically, the 13th gen CPUs are not fully supported by Windows 10, because it can't properly prioritize which cores should handle which tasks. If games are affected by this, it usually causes stuttering and maybe some desync stuff. Will it affect you/your games? No way to know. I'd lean toward upgrading (getting a 13700k is why I upgraded to Win11 myself) but you can wait and see if you prefer.

ah well this sounds pretty important, guess that's that then, thanks!

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh
Little reason to stick with Windows 10 at this point really, other than some aesthetic preference.

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

disaster pastor posted:

Technically, the 13th gen CPUs are not fully supported by Windows 10, because it can't properly prioritize which cores should handle which tasks. If games are affected by this, it usually causes stuttering and maybe some desync stuff. Will it affect you/your games? No way to know. I'd lean toward upgrading (getting a 13700k is why I upgraded to Win11 myself) but you can wait and see if you prefer.

Technically this is true. Technically. In practice, the difference between these two is a rounding error with all the testing I've seen showing a net difference of effectively 'zero'.

I need better words for this, but the best I have right now is this: Windows 11 vs Windows 10 for the majority of people is going to be an aesthetic choice today. If you love rounded corners and invisible scroll bars, then Windows 11 is pretty cool. However, if you actually need the OS to behave like a general purpose OS, Windows 11 ain't it without a pile of 3rd party software to de-phone it. If you find yourself doing surface-level work exclusively, W11 is will continue to do that. The more you need an OS to be an OS though, the more compelling Windows 10 is (or the more 3rd party software you are signing up for with W11).

Canine Blues Arooo fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Nov 3, 2023

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Windows 11 is fine for software devs and such once you install startallback or equivalent. There really isn't any other unfixably effective egregious fuckery that isn't just as bad in 10.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Utterly baffled by this windows 11 install that won't let me set a desktop background. Or to be more precise, it doesn't stop me at all, it then just... doesn't actually do it. Desktop stays black. Lock screen doesn't seem to be a problem. Fully activated, I checked. What's weird is that under personalize, the option to just pick a custom image isn't there. Just some preset themes. Right click an image does have the set as desktop background option though.

Basically came fresh out of the box yesterday from Lenovo with a windows 11 pro license with downgrade rights and windows 10 installed. I did absolutely nothing to it but create a local user account and then run the upgrade to 11 :shrug:

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Flipperwaldt posted:

Utterly baffled by this windows 11 install that won't let me set a desktop background. Or to be more precise, it doesn't stop me at all, it then just... doesn't actually do it. Desktop stays black. Lock screen doesn't seem to be a problem. Fully activated, I checked. What's weird is that under personalize, the option to just pick a custom image isn't there. Just some preset themes. Right click an image does have the set as desktop background option though.

Basically came fresh out of the box yesterday from Lenovo with a windows 11 pro license with downgrade rights and windows 10 installed. I did absolutely nothing to it but create a local user account and then run the upgrade to 11 :shrug:

Hopefully you're already doing a clean install.

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Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



astral posted:

Hopefully you're already doing a clean install.
I will. If I could be sure it was going to be the only issue, I wouldn't. Kinda was hoping to find out if any of the preinstalled software would be of use to me wrt battery management or what the fn+F keys do, things like that. Good thing I'm under no time pressure to get this going proper.

This dumb downgrade poo poo means that the recovery image is windows 10 as well. Which, you know, fine, except that the seller simply advertised it as coming with windows 11, no more no less. I think that's a dick move on their part.

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