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On a second playthrough, not 100% but still going for the true ending, Hollow Knight is about four hours tops. Idk what the true ending speedrun time is, probably an hour and a half. Where the gently caress is 20 coming from? The joy in a metroidvania comes from the exploration, from getting to know the world; I get the impression that a lot of you just don't really like metroidvanias. Complaining about Hollow Knight having lots of backtracking and dead ends to explore is like complaining that your pizza is too cheesy.
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Barudak posted:David Hayter may not be a great actor, but hes better than the dialog Kojima gave him. The only time Norman Reedus seems to even tune in are when he's promoting Ride with Normal Reedus.
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Oct 30, 2023 05:08
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DontMockMySmock posted:Complaining about Hollow Knight having lots of backtracking and dead ends to explore is like complaining that your pizza is too cheesy. Lol I'm eating pizza 80% for the sauce but let me share you a cursed tip to get free extra cheese on pizza: order light or normal cheese but extra sauce. 90% of the time they will ignore the extra sauce request, give you normal or lite sauce and pile so much cheese on it you can't even see the sauce or toppings anymore.
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Caesar Saladin posted:Its probably not an unpopular opinion, but Quest for Glory is fuckin awesome and should be considered at the same level of Lucasarts stuff. calm down Bobbin Threadbare
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Oct 30, 2023 05:14
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The lead character of Alan Wake 2 is not a secret brit and actually supposed to be American so thank you Remedy, for letting me point out how terrible a Brits attempt at sounding American is after all this time of the opposite problem.
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Let me be clear: I've not played more than 5 minutes of Hollow Knight and have no opinion of it. What I meant is that, in my opinion, a good Metroidvania's core content is best when short, while providing tools for the player to explore and extend that time in an emergent sort of way. But many games in this category go too hard and basically make a 2d bloated Ubisoft game (No, not like Rayman) that becomes a chore to run through. For the record, I'm very much a Metroid Stan.
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I think if your genre depends on me spending x amount of time only to go "nope gently caress you can't get any further yet you better walk back" then it's a poo poo genre. I bet if you made Hollow Knight a linear game it'd be so much better, but of course it'd also be shorter.
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Barudak posted:I never finished Hollow Knight and have a bunch of complaints but one of the last things sucking out my will to play was thinking about how little I liked the combat and then reading the DLC was a boss rush mode of various lengths. Not really DLC though, there were like 4 free content updates patched directly into the base game and the boss rush thing was the final one of them. Boss rush modes are not usually my thing but I liked Hollow Knight's because most of the bosses can be defeated in like 30 seconds and then they also created a few new fights that turned out to be the best in the game QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Oct 30, 2023 |
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Khanstant posted:Lol I'm eating pizza 80% for the sauce but let me share you a cursed tip to get free extra cheese on pizza: order light or normal cheese but extra sauce. 90% of the time they will ignore the extra sauce request, give you normal or lite sauce and pile so much cheese on it you can't even see the sauce or toppings anymore. Your tip is to ask for extra sauce then hope they give you extra cheese instead?
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Duck and Cover posted:I think if your genre depends on me spending x amount of time only to go "nope gently caress you can't get any further yet you better walk back" then it's a poo poo genre. I bet if you made Hollow Knight a linear game it'd be so much better, but of course it'd also be shorter. DontMockMySmock posted:you just don't really like metroidvanias. The joy comes, partially, from going "now where can i use this new ability?" and thinking to yourself, "i know, there was definitely some kind of secret or alternate path back in that other place," and then going and figuring it out. if that's not fun to you, that's fine, then don't play metroidvanias, but i need you to understand that you're literally describing the thing that makes them fun to other people.
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QuarkJets posted:Not really DLC though, there were like 4 free content updates patched directly into the base game and the boss rush thing was the final one of them. Boss rush modes are not usually my thing but I liked Hollow Knight's because most of the bosses can be defeated in like 30 seconds and then they also created a few new fights that turned out to be the best in the game gently caress Winged Nosk, all my homies hate Winged Nosk
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Who are these freaks who replay games once you finish them? I don’t find joy in repeating a game faster, I find joy in discovery
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ymgve posted:Who are these freaks who replay games once you finish them? I don’t find joy in repeating a game faster, I find joy in discovery if you smoke weed every moment is like joy in discovery because of the memory issues have you tried that to get more replay value out of the games you own? have you heard of "weed?"
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Private Cumshoe posted:if you smoke weed every moment is like joy in discovery because of the memory issues have you tried that to get more replay value out of the games you own? ever look at the stars on weed?
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DontMockMySmock posted:The joy comes, partially, from going "now where can i use this new ability?" and thinking to yourself, "i know, there was definitely some kind of secret or alternate path back in that other place," and then going and figuring it out. if that's not fun to you, that's fine, then don't play metroidvanias, but i need you to understand that you're literally describing the thing that makes them fun to other people. I don't find it fun in figuring out that the dash key goes to the dash door. Pretty obvious. Is pogoing on spikes ever taught? I knew to do it because I've seen youtube videos, and there's a room where you could possible figure it out, but the problem is you could also go "whelp can't get that yet". Anyway Neon White actually does that without demanding backtracking (lol at tricking people into thinking backtracking is good). So yeah. It does have lots of dialog boxes though. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Oct 30, 2023 |
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Flowers for QAnon posted:Your tip is to ask for extra sauce then hope they give you extra cheese instead? My tip is to ask for extra sauce because they will basically never give it to you and will always give you too much cheese. If you do get extra sauce then your pizza is just better anyway.
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Khanstant posted:My tip is to ask for extra sauce because they will basically never give it to you and will always give you too much cheese. If you do get extra sauce then your pizza is just better anyway. look at this dork who thinks there is too much cheese
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Khanstant posted:My tip is to ask for extra sauce because they will basically never give it to you and will always give you too much cheese. If you do get extra sauce then your pizza is just better anyway. You are a menace to society
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I'm telling you how to get more cheese for free and I forgive you.
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Khanstant posted:I'm telling you how to get more cheese for free and I forgive you. why buy the cheese when you can get the cow for free
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Hollow Knight sucks because its fucken ugly
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can't you just order extra cheese, or is sauce supposed to be free but they won't give you more of the free ingredient ???
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ymgve posted:Who are these freaks who replay games once you finish them? I don’t find joy in repeating a game faster, I find joy in discovery ........no 2 dota games are the same........
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Extra cheese is generally an upsell, asking extra sauce usually is free. I think asking for extra sauce is so uncommon most workers see extra at top of ticket and assume cheese and pile it on.fridge corn posted:Hollow Knight sucks because its fucken ugly Game full of cool insects except they all look like lovely newgrounds blob characters
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scanlines actually do make emulated games look better
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Devils Affricate posted:I imagine a fast-ish 2nd or 3rd playthrough of Hollow Knight or Ori would take about as long as the same of Castlevania or Metroid. Which are the offending titles here exactly? Maybe an actual unpopular opinion but both Axiom Verge titles in my books. Depending on how you identify games as "Metroidvania" (I think the label is misattributed to a lot of games) : the Jedi games, Indivisible We could have a whole conversation as to what qualifies for the label or not with how misused it has become, tbh 
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As long as we don't call them keyring platformer or search action games I am ready to discuss whatever you want about the genre.
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Love me some searching for my keys action.
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Did you know you can put your own toppings on a pizza? Did you know literally anything can be a topping?
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Khanstant posted:The only time Norman Reedus seems to even tune in are when he's promoting Ride with Normal Reedus. On the other hand I can't get enough of Mads Mikkelsen stumbling around muttering "where's my BB?"
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fridge corn posted:Hollow Knight sucks because its fucken ugly I will literally come to your home and loving eat you to death (this is not a typo, I will start at your feet and work upwards).
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Dark souls are a metroid
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Adding more movement options and progression to Dark Souls made it even better, hope the trend continues until we can flip the world upsidedown and turn into a bat.
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Chrysophylax posted:Finished Jedi Survivor recently and I have Opinions I must share. 100%. Apologists always trot out this "not playing a videogame is actually a very important part of playing a videogame" line and it's the dumbest thing ever. The difficulty in Jedi Survivor is weird because the combat system is clearly designed for humanoid enemies so it's mostly easy as hell when you fight them, but monster enemies can be hard because the combat system kind of sucks and barely works against them. I think part of the reason that game got such acclaim is because going on an adventure in starwarsia as store brand Luke, Han, and Leia is legitimately a huge draw for a lot of people. The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 30, 2023 |
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Dark Souls needs a Chao World I really disliked Sonic Adventure 2 (the Dark Souls of bad games) but dammit if those little chaos kept it somewhat entertaining before loathing myself for getting through most of it
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The trick to Sonic Adventure 2 is to just play the first level repeatedly rather than progressing.
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The Moon Monster posted:The trick to Sonic Adventure 2 is to just play the song from the first level repeatedly and do air guitar rather than playing.
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The Moon Monster posted:100%. Apologists always trot out this "not playing a videogame is actually a very important part of playing a videogame" line and it's the dumbest thing ever. I'm playing it now, and I was trying to explain this to my SO. Jedi Survivor is a lot of fun, really, it is. But there's something about the combat that just doesn't flow right. Dodging for example feels like it has no real feel/rhythm, the aforementioned "I don't react to being hit with a heavy attack all of a sudden" and, given all the options for dealing with being surrounded in the game, I astonished that it still is a pain in the rear end the be shoved into some very tight quarters but surrounded on all sides, and not in a "this is a challenging encounter" kind of way.
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Sonic Adventure 2 is a solid 8/10 if you ignore the Rouge stages. Those bring it down to a 5.
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