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Pener Kropoopkin posted:not nearly as much as they did before the second intifada, but there’s 5,000 Palestinian laborers trapped in Israel right now who can’t work or go home. well there's something they can do
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moths posted:Ooh I no this one and it's a trick question. "stop resisting" writ large
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gradenko_2000 posted:ah yeah the atomic bombing of Japan: things that history remembers fondly!  : that's rightFrosted Flake posted:I guess my point is, even if you accept this was bullshit rhetoric and pandering to American historical memory, how do they think strategic bombing brought about victory? There are no targets in Gaza 8th Air Force or Bomber Command would select because there is no industrialized base, no conventional army being struck at. They're bombing Gaza's main strategic resource, people. People make more people.
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This piece of art is astounding disney-quality stuff, sadly I cant find the JPEG by itself or on more bbcode friendly sites. https://www.instagram.com/p/CzBQTpGMJJZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Al-Saqr posted:This piece of art is astounding disney-quality stuff, sadly I cant find the JPEG by itself or on more bbcode friendly sites. Here you go, friend.  
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gradenko_2000 posted:The New York Times: Biden’s Support for Israel Now Comes With Words of Caution charging up the most powerful cry of whataboutism you've ever heard
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I'm sorry but I'd like to ask so that I'm better informed: what is the specific symbolism of the key, in images like these?
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Ardennes posted:Israel has shown it isn't a state that can be trusted or negotiated with in any real sense, any agreement they will sign will be ignored if it benefits them. You don't commit to a genocide then "change your mind in the name of peace." If it isn't now, it will be later. At least now Hamas is forcing the Israelis to engaged them in close quarters, a fight Hamas has designed its units around. If anything the more troops Israel tries to pump into Gaza, the better the fight is for Hamas. The IDF also doesn't have infinite trained personnel (and be honest their tactics are ridiculous; they make the Ukrainians look competent in comparison) and the longer this goes on, the cost for Israel is going to be greater. They are going to have to put more and more reservists who have no idea what they are doing into urban combat. The Israeli middle class/liberals are fully into this thing right now, but the question is when the total starts adding up and the question becomes who has to go into the meat grinder after the professionals. i think now is the right time to post this https://www.sholetteseminars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Israeli.MilitaryPostStruct.pdf
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I thought Israel were the ones who tried to sue the United States and UK for not bombing Auschwitz in the 1990's or whatever. I have to read Finkelstien's Holocaust Industry again, because they have such a loving weird relationship with it.
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Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:i think now is the right time to post this https://www.sholetteseminars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Israeli.MilitaryPostStruct.pdf I'm screaming inside. Naveh, a retired Brigadier-General, directs the Operational Theory Research Institute, which trains staff officers from the IDF and other militaries in 'operational theory' - defined in military jargon as somewhere between strategy and tactics. He summed up the mission of his institute, which was founded in 1996: 'We are like the Jesuit Order. We attempt to teach and train soldiers to think. [...] We read Christopher Alexander, can you imagine?; we read John Forester, and other architects. We are reading Gregory Bateson; we are reading Clifford Geertz. Not myself, but our soldiers, our generals are reflecting on these kinds of materials. We have established a school and developed a curriculum that trains "operational architects".'4 In a lecture Naveh showed a diagram resembling a 'square of opposition' that plots a set of logical relationships between certain propositions referring to military and guerrilla operations. Labelled with phrases such as 'Difference and Repetition - The Dialectics of Structuring and Structure', 'Formless Rival Entities', 'Fractal Manoeuvre', 'Velocity vs. Rhythms', 'The Wahabi War Machine', 'Postmodern Anarchists' and 'Nomadic Terrorists', they often reference the work of Deleuze and Guattari. War machines, according to the philosophers, are polymorphous; diffuse organizations characterized by their capacity for metamorphosis, made up of small groups that split up or merge with one another, depending on contingency and circumstances. (Deleuze and Guattari were aware that the state can willingly transform itself into a war machine. Similarly, in their discussion of 'smooth space' it is implied that this conception may lead to domination.) I asked Naveh why Deleuze and Guattari were so popular with the Israeli military. He replied that 'several of the concepts in A Thousand Plateaux became instrumental for us [...] allowing us to explain contemporary situations in a way that we could not have otherwise. It problematized our own paradigms. Most important was the distinction they have pointed out between the concepts of "smooth" and "striated" space [which accordingly reflect] the organizational concepts of the "war machine" and the "state apparatus". In the IDF we now often use the term "to smooth out space" when we want to refer to operation in a space as if it had no borders. [...] Palestinian areas could indeed be thought of as "striated" in the sense that they are enclosed by fences, walls, ditches, roads blocks and so on.'5 When I asked him if moving through walls was part of it, he explained that, 'In Nablus the IDF understood urban fighting as a spatial problem. [...] Travelling through walls is a simple mechanical solution that connects theory and practice.'6
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm sorry but I'd like to ask so that I'm better informed: what is the specific symbolism of the key, in images like these? key to the house they used to live in, that Israel stole from them
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm sorry but I'd like to ask so that I'm better informed: what is the specific symbolism of the key, in images like these? Palestinians kept the keys and deeds to the houses they were ethnically cleansed from by the zionists, the key is the symbol of going home.
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I phone post and read books all day, and my Israeli counterpart describes himself as a combination Jesuit, architect and loving philosopher.
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm screaming inside. i read that years ago and i still haven't gotten over it.
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:key to the house they used to live in, that Israel stole from them Al-Saqr posted:Palestinians kept the keys and deeds to the houses they were ethnically cleansed from by the zionists, the key is the symbol of going home. thank you
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:As a conventionally attractive white woman you will hear about her death and the obscene speculation on how she died for the next thirty to fifty years tbh she's practically an archduke
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Frosted Flake posted:I phone post and read books all day, and my Israeli counterpart describes himself as a combination Jesuit, architect and loving philosopher. hmm
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Al-Saqr posted:Hizbullah releases yet another marvel movie suspense trailer 
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So are there any twitter accounts covering the military developments left? That one guy that musk followed who was canceled for antisemitism has gone dark
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm screaming inside. hahahah what the gently caress that has nothing to do with operational theory
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Frosted Flake posted:I asked Naveh why Deleuze and Guattari were so popular with the Israeli military. He replied that 'several of the concepts in A Thousand Plateaux became instrumental for us [...] allowing us to explain contemporary situations in a way that we could not have otherwise. It problematized our own paradigms. Most important was the distinction they have pointed out between the concepts of "smooth" and "striated" space [which accordingly reflect] the organizational concepts of the "war machine" and the "state apparatus". In the IDF we now often use the term "to smooth out space" when we want to refer to operation in a space as if it had no borders. [...] Palestinian areas could indeed be thought of as "striated" in the sense that they are enclosed by fences, walls, ditches, roads blocks and so on.'5 When I asked him if moving through walls was part of it, he explained that, 'In Nablus the IDF understood urban fighting as a spatial problem. [...] Travelling through walls is a simple mechanical solution that connects theory and practice.'6 this is so loving funny
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Frosted Flake posted:I phone post and read books all day, and my Israeli counterpart describes himself as a combination Jesuit, architect and loving philosopher. stop reading and start howling death to israel. more useful.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm sorry but I'd like to ask so that I'm better informed: what is the specific symbolism of the key, in images like these? i was going to ask about the orange fruit!
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Al-Saqr posted:https://x.com/missfalasteenia/status/1718978040422707692?s=20 the world’s richest countries are terrified of its most wretched. this is the near future and the Great Satan is already losing.
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"This may explain the fascination of the military with the spatial and organizational models and modes of operation advanced by theorists such as Deleuze and Guattari. Indeed, as far as the military is concerned, urban warfare is the ultimate Postmodern form of conflict. Belief in a logically structured and single-track battle-plan is lost in the face of the complexity and ambiguity of the urban reality. Civilians become combatants, and combatants become civilians. Identity can be changed as quickly as gender can be feigned: the transformation of women into fighting men can occur at the speed that it takes an undercover 'Arabized' Israeli soldier or a camouflaged Palestinian fighter to pull a machine-gun out from under a dress. For a Palestinian fighter caught up in this battle, Israelis seem 'to be everywhere: behind, on the sides, on the right and on the left. How can you fight that way?'" 1) The "invisible" plainclothes "Arab" IDF SF team were among the first KIA, at H Hour -4 or something on Oct 7. 2) I'm not qualified to touch the gender thing, but this is very funny in light of the SYQ where people are carefully weighing genocide vs trans: "There are two choices and one of them is going to win. One party has mixed feelings about the Palestinian conflict and the other is pro extermination. One party supports the continuation of democracy and a secular civil society and the other wants to establish a white "Christian" ethnostate. One wants the erase trans people (and you can bet all LGBTQ+ folks when that's done) and the other doesn't. " Little did we know, Israel found a way to make genocide trans by conceptualizing "civilians becoming combatants" exactly the same as "the transformation of women into fighting men". 3) Critical theory is obviously not itself emancipatory if  "What are combatants anyway?" can seamlessly be laundered through the right jargon.
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loving lol this may need to go in both war threads https://www.politico.eu/article/future-warfare-400-army-strike-drone-unit-2m-tank/ quote:And, earlier this month, Hamas militants flew drones to knock out Israeli border defenses during a surprise attack in which they massacred more than 1,400 people and took around 200 hostages. For Ukrainians, the video clip of a Hamas drone destroying an Israeli main battle tank by dropping a grenade was a film they had seen before. the secret technologies of strapping a grenade to a drone and pressing a button are beginning to spread
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crepeface posted:i was going to ask about the orange fruit! Oranges (Jaffa Oranges) and Olives are the Palestinian national fruits.
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^ ah, i see. i knew about olives, didn't know about oranges.Frosted Flake posted:I asked Naveh why Deleuze and Guattari were so popular with the Israeli military. He replied that 'several of the concepts in A Thousand Plateaux became instrumental for us [...] allowing us to explain contemporary situations in a way that we could not have otherwise. It problematized our own paradigms. Most important was the distinction they have pointed out between the concepts of "smooth" and "striated" space [which accordingly reflect] the organizational concepts of the "war machine" and the "state apparatus". In the IDF we now often use the term "to smooth out space" when we want to refer to operation in a space as if it had no borders. [...] Palestinian areas could indeed be thought of as "striated" in the sense that they are enclosed by fences, walls, ditches, roads blocks and so on.'5 When I asked him if moving through walls was part of it, he explained that, 'In Nablus the IDF understood urban fighting as a spatial problem. [...] Travelling through walls is a simple mechanical solution that connects theory and practice.'6 lol reading post modern marxist philosophers to do war crimes better
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gradenko_2000 posted:hahahah what the gently caress that has nothing to do with operational theory It's so funny that the anti-communist academic project to destroy materialist dialectics in the 20th century has utterly poisoned the Imperialists' ability to think coherently about any problem.
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Al! posted:you see a palestinian child can be thought of as a body without organs, and the bullets as rhizomes;
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i say swears online posted:loving lol this may need to go in both war threads Hamas actually did one better and made the drones Vertical RPG's with the rocket pointing down.
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i say swears online posted:loving lol this may need to go in both war threads didn't the houthis destroy a saudi oil refinery with drones when they were hosting an f1 race?
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Another beautiful day at the IDF high command, writing 45,000 words of continental philosophy and ending it with "which is why we need to machine gun the Palestinians into ditches".
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i say swears online posted:loving lol this may need to go in both war threads ah the old “nonwhite brains could never have figured this out.” anyway congratulations Russia on being officially white again.
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Stringent posted:didn't the houthis destroy a saudi oil refinery with drones when they were hosting an f1 race? they must've trained in moscow for years
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Boy I'm sure glad Hamas is a tangible enemy that can be defeated and not an idea that propagates every time a missile hits, a child's hunger growl or any number of other atrocities permeate a society dealing with atrocities for 70+ years. It'd sure be bad for Israel if they created generations of Hamas in the arab and non arab worlds by continuing to think they can stamp out an enemy with violence.
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm screaming inside. That second paragraph. It should be illegal to talk or write or think like that. Though if IDF officers want to break their brains in that way, more power to them, I guess.
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