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slidebite posted:I don't see much of a difference firing up a VPN or taking 5 seconds to update ublock before hitting Youtube Apple put up subscription prices last year and is apparently planning to hike them again early next year. Subscription price jacking is basically all these companies have left to juice the numbers.
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slidebite posted:I don't see much of a difference firing up a VPN or taking 5 seconds to update ublock before hitting Youtube Premium works on every platform. I can’t block ads on everything I use to watch YouTube
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Oct 31, 2023 00:22
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MarcusSA posted:Premium works on every platform. I can’t block ads on everything I use to watch YouTube This. I bought Premium because I simply got tired of hitting Skip Ad every few minutes watching stuff on my C1 in bed
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Oct 31, 2023 00:35
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MarcusSA posted:Premium works on every platform. I can’t block ads on everything I use to watch YouTube That makes sense. I only watch on a PC myself so that's fair.
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Oct 31, 2023 00:39
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slidebite posted:or taking 5 seconds to update ublock before hitting Youtube I haven't even needed to do that in the past few days, did Google get bored?
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Oct 31, 2023 00:57
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MarcusSA posted:Premium works on every platform. I can’t block ads on everything I use to watch YouTube What platform aren't you able to block ads on? I mean I get that it's convenient to just sub to Premium and be done with it. It's pretty easy to find a way around them on almost anything today.
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Oct 31, 2023 02:02
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Not everybody wants to bother with different workarounds for PC, laptop, phone, tablet, and TV. We've been on this dumb poo poo for pages and pages of "Don't give Google your money/data" "I sub to it and it works well for me" "It's so easy to workaround/block". Some people don't mind going out of their way to block ads on multiple devices. Other people don't mind paying $15/month to not have to deal with it. They're both fine choices.
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Oct 31, 2023 02:17
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Oct 31, 2023 02:20
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I would imagine it is comically out of reach difficult for your average person that doesn't know what a folder>subfolder hierarchy tree is to figure out how to block ads on the youtube app on a smart tv or something. Like the poster above said, everyone has their options that fit their capability, consumption rate and personal finances
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Oct 31, 2023 02:24
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Are they cracking down on family plan sharing for premium? $30 split 5 ways isn’t bad.
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Oct 31, 2023 02:25
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3 pages of YouTube chat better than 30 pages of Linus at least
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Oct 31, 2023 04:06
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Nitr0 posted:3 pages of YouTube chat better than 30 pages of Linus at least This is literally the Linus chat thread. He's in the title. Pages of people refusing to comprehend that other people would rather pay $15/month for a service than try to figure out how to block/avoid ads on every different device and OS that they use is beyond tedious.
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Oct 31, 2023 04:21
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Blurb3947 posted:What platform aren't you able to block ads on? I mean I get that it's convenient to just sub to Premium and be done with it. It's pretty easy to find a way around them on almost anything today. iPad (using the app) Apple TV. I don’t think you could block the ads on a Roku either. Sure I could probably use YouTube in Safari with an adblocker and then cast it to the Apple TV but it’s real nice to just pick the tv remote up and scroll around.
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Oct 31, 2023 04:41
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hobbesmaster posted:Are they cracking down on family plan sharing for premium? $30 split 5 ways isn’t bad. I had a friend add me to their family sharing plan and there was no fuss. Nothing afaik that attempts to limit it to a real physical household. Obviously anything can change whenever google feels like it of course.
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Oct 31, 2023 05:10
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I pay for youtube family because the videos are cool and having my mom / dad / wife / son watch adds is not cool.
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Oct 31, 2023 05:21
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Tuxedo Gin posted:This is literally the Linus chat thread. He's in the title. Pages of people refusing to comprehend that other people would rather pay $15/month for a service than try to figure out how to block/avoid ads on every different device and OS that they use is beyond tedious. thesis ... antithesis ... synthesis: what if you watched ad-free videos on FLOATPLANE instead???
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Oct 31, 2023 05:23
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I was trying to find something to put on while falling asleep last night and browsed down through the categories on the home page of smartertube and the Live category was all this I have no idea what they actually are but, ugh, dire.
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Oct 31, 2023 07:45
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Klyith posted:Correctly assessing that there is no alternative* is a different thing than "who cares". The thing is while we can imagine how Google could track everyone they probably don’t put a lot of effort into tracking tough cases because it starts becoming a lot of work and generates a ton of dirty data. If you use firefox on strict privacy, with a vpn, and clear your cookies every session, and don’t log into a google account and watch youtube on invidious and use an adblocker it is pretty hard to get meaningful tracking data out of that. If you don’t mind some jank you can randomize your user agent too. As for de-googling cheaply you can just get a hosted nextcloud with email and sign up for kagi or use duckduckgo for free. I think I’ve seen hosted nextcloud for like $4/mo, I use an email provider that’s like $30/year. Kagi will let you automatically redirect to invidious even. If you run out of space on your nextcloud you can buy more super cheap with backblaze B2.
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Oct 31, 2023 13:22
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Not everybody wants to bother with different workarounds for PC, laptop, phone, tablet, and TV. We've been on this dumb poo poo for pages and pages of "Don't give Google your money/data" "I sub to it and it works well for me" "It's so easy to workaround/block". Some user posted that they use vpn to sign up for youtube from Argentina for $2/mo. I think its a lot more compelling at that price point.
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Internet Old One posted:Argentina for $2/mo
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Internet Old One posted:The thing is while we can imagine how Google could track everyone they probably don’t put a lot of effort into tracking tough cases because it starts becoming a lot of work and generates a ton of dirty data. My sister and my stepfather got into a fight yesterday because a Tinder ad came up while someone was watching YouTube on the living room TV and my sister said "oh that means someone's been on dating apps. who's being unfaithful?" people are really really bad at understanding how tracking turns into ad presentations and poo poo, goddamn.
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Oct 31, 2023 15:07
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Arivia posted:my sister said "oh that means someone's been on dating apps. who's being unfaithful?" Your sister might be my ex-girlfriend.
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Internet Old One posted:The thing is while we can imagine how Google could track everyone they probably don’t put a lot of effort into tracking tough cases because it starts becoming a lot of work and generates a ton of dirty data. Do you think google is making decisions about who to track? No! They're collecting all the data, and they don't really give a poo poo if it's good or bad or spoofed. You too have a data profile (or many) in the google panopticon. For reference, I actually do a fair amount of anti-tracking and always have. Not out of full  that data will be successfully used against me, just out of general "gently caress you" cussedness to big corporations & ads. So no VPN, but general anti-cookie and tracking stuff. This worked fairly well for a long time, in that I saw different things on my desktop and laptop that indicated that Google didn't recognize me as a single person. I didn't get a smartphone until 2016, and the minute I did google was able to collapse that down. I started seeing correlated results, they triangulated me down to a single person with that extra data.So tldr, the level of extra effort, or extra expense, you have to go through to stay completely blank to google is pretty extreme. And if you just go halfway, they collect what they can until they have a chance to connect it. And that's just Google. Better not buy anything from Amazon, or watch Netflix, or do anything else on the internet with your IRL credit card. And that doesn't even get into the IRL sources of data you produce. Never fly on a plane! Go cash-only like some sort of psychopath! Internet Old One posted:As for de-googling cheaply you can just get a hosted nextcloud with email and sign up for kagi or use duckduckgo for free. I think I’ve seen hosted nextcloud for like $4/mo, I use an email provider that’s like $30/year. Kagi will let you automatically redirect to invidious even. If you run out of space on your nextcloud you can buy more super cheap with backblaze B2. Go right ahead and buy that poo poo for me. Don't forget the VPN subscription!
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i always get a bit spooked when i recognize ad correlation between different devices across multiple apps. does amazon also sell profile data, cause it feels that way, but maybe that's just the other profilers being that good based on hoovering every scrap?
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amazon has a pretty booming ad business, so i'm assuming they're doing the same as everyone else. i ditched pinterest when they ramped up their "targeting", which always sounds nice https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/742768184063758336 we're at a point where people are both criticizing tiktok for "stealing all your data" and defending them by saying that they're "not doing anything facebook isn't". technically true, but sucks how google and facebook made this the new baseline
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Anyone happen to have an extension/script that blocks youtube unless ublock is up to date?
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Rinkles posted:i always get a bit spooked when i recognize ad correlation between different devices across multiple apps. does amazon also sell profile data, cause it feels that way, but maybe that's just the other profilers being that good based on hoovering every scrap? I feel like none of the megacorps are selling their own data to each other; they are hoarding it for their own advantage. But plenty of sites are selling to everyone who will buy it. So for example lets say you need a new vacuum. You type "best vacuum review" in google, click the result for NYT wirecutter, click the link for amazon, buy vacuum. Google doesn't sell your search history to amazon, and amazon doesn't sell your purchase history to google. But NYT sold your clicks to both google and amazon, so they both know pretty much the whole story.
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Klyith posted:I feel like none of the megacorps are selling their own data to each other; they are hoarding it for their own advantage. But plenty of sites are selling to everyone who will buy it. Mind you, the industry is older than the internet is - but it's never been turning a bigger profit than it is now.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:There's an entire industry called data brokering, which is dedicated to collecting and selling/licensing data to third parties. Yeah it’s huge money.
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Oct 31, 2023 17:46
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Rinkles posted:i always get a bit spooked when i recognize ad correlation between different devices across multiple apps. does amazon also sell profile data, cause it feels that way, but maybe that's just the other profilers being that good based on hoovering every scrap? This was in one device but last week I was reading another SA thread where someone mentioned two specific video games, one of which I had never heard of. Not even 5 mins later, I opened Steam, which was NOT running in the background (or at least in the system tray, maybe some process I didn’t see) and lo and behold a pop up for the game I never heard of showed and when I closed that and went to the main Steam page, both games mentioned in the post were showing as recommended to me. I almost have to give them a round of applause for getting that data so quickly.
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Oct 31, 2023 18:26
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YouTube is throwing product recommendations at me on the mobile app now. Not videos, just straight up little ad banners in the Home tab. They allow you to hide for 30 days, but much like the Shorts, im sure they’ll take the option away soon and then we’ll just be forced to live with it. The iOS app works fairly well, but Google is hellbent on making me view YouTube on Safari with ton of decrapifying extensions, aren’t they?
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Some dumb fucker wouldn’t shut up about lasik in the VR thread and the next time I go on YouTube I got two different videos on LASIK. It’s almost impressive.
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MarcusSA posted:Some dumb fucker wouldn’t shut up about lasik in the VR thread and the next time I go on YouTube I got two different videos on LASIK. I am so horny for men and I'm a hot single mom in your area and I want to hook up I want to find single men in my area single men hook up sex tinder grindr milf sex sex my holes
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Oct 31, 2023 19:19
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beep by grandpa posted:I am so horny for men and I'm a hot single mom in your area and I want to hook up I want to find single men in my area single men hook up sex tinder grindr milf sex sex my holes Wild, Now all my google searches are just Hot single moms in my area, as well as i think Google Changed my Sexuality to fit the algorithm
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beep by grandpa posted:I am so horny for men and I'm a hot single mom in your area and I want to hook up I want to find single men in my area single men hook up sex tinder grindr milf sex sex my holes I swear to god….
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Oct 31, 2023 20:19
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And all of this is hurting you...how?
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Shipon posted:And all of this is hurting you...how? All these horny ads I’ve gotten since reading the last 4 posts itt basically guarantees my erections are gonna last more than 4 hours
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beep by grandpa posted:I am so horny for men and I'm a hot single mom in your area and I want to hook up I want to find single men in my area single men hook up sex tinder grindr milf sex sex my holes same, tbh
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beep by grandpa posted:I am so horny for men and I'm a hot single mom in your area and I want to hook up I want to find single men in my area single men hook up sex tinder grindr milf sex sex my holes So it didn't do anything on my iphone but I'm on a computer now so fingers crossed!
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Great, now they're putting in lovely F2P mobile games into YouTube. Who asked for this poo poo....?
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