Feels Villeneuve posted:

Lmao at this exclusive chat emoji you can get if you pre-order. Silent Hill is back.

Mr E posted:

That Silent Hill TV Show looks awful. I hope F is good but really at this point I'd prefer Konami to go back to not making games at all.

Endorph posted:

Here. Comes. Cults!

Feels Villeneuve posted:

Lmao at this exclusive chat emoji you can get if you pre-order. Silent Hill is back.

Tired Moritz posted:

this will get spammed whenever a goon has a breakdown

Basic Chunnel posted:

Is SH: Townfall no longer a thing?

Feels Villeneuve posted:

Lmao at this exclusive chat emoji you can get if you pre-order. Silent Hill is back.

Snake Maze posted:

FoneBone posted:

hasn't been shown since that SH stream last year (ditto the SH2 remake and SHf), but the dev has continued to tweet about it

definitely the project i'm most interested in as a fan of Stories Untold and Observation, so hoping we get more info soon

Basic Chunnel posted:

Put it this way: sometimes you’re a kid who loves the perfect film that is Alien, and you’re like “more of this please,” but then you get more and the returns diminish.

Then you get a crossover with another “universe” that’s decent on its own merits. Maybe the idea is appealing on its face. Maybe you buy into the bombast, the “dream match” quality of two great tastes coming together. What could go wrong? But things don’t always add to the sum of their parts.

The crossover becomes its own thing, and you get one good FPS out of it, but pretty much everything else to come out of it sucks. It sucks really, really badly, such that Alien becomes defined by hacky, derivative bullshit. So from then on the idea of a hyped-up crossover does not, in your mind, foretell good things in and of itself.

Another, more germane example: M. Night Shyamalan (who again, prefigured Alan Wake 2 with his own metafictional indulgence, Lady In the Water), after wrecking his name brand with a string of flops, toils through a couple of unpretentious, lean and mean genre indies such that within a few years, people start to wonder if maybe his earlier failures were a fluke. Then he has a real comeback with Split.

The thing with Split is (spoilers for a 2016 movie) that it’s a lean mean genre picture that just so happens to reveal itself, at the very end, as a secret prologue to a sequel following MNS’s second movie, Unbreakable. Much the same way CONTROL reveals itself to be, on some level, a prologue to AW2! Some people were thrilled we were in for more Unbreakable. A lot more people didn’t didn’t much care one way or another.

There were also people who actually liked Split more as its own thing, its own weird little one-off playing by its own rules. There were people who were deflated by the implication that Split only happened because MNS couldn’t make what he really wanted, which was Unbreakable 2, and the further implication that Split, by dint of not being the creator’s darling, was a minor work in service to the other, more important thing. Not to mention that if the return of the other thing didn’t pan out, the thing you showed up for would probably die too.

And if the other thing did really well? Who knows if they’d bother to return to the secondary franchise. Maybe CONTROL becomes something like the Hulk in the MCU — the FBC showing up in everything as a feature but never getting another crack at their own starring vehicle. That would be a shame.

What if you liked CONTROL way more than AW, or thought its greatest future potential lay in going deeper into itself rather than deeper into whatever AW was doing? If you’re not as enchanted by the grand universal plan as the creators are, that can end up being a problem, because now, there’s no reason to expect that future CONTROL games, if any, will exist at the same distance from AW. It may end up a “sidequel”, or worse, whatever Book of Boba Fett was while everyone was waiting for the Mandalorian to show up.

Speaking of Disney is really staring this dilemma down as their firehose of networked properties generates less and less enthusiasm, the grand overarching plots and the individual pieces both becoming more and more listless…

But more to the point, investors and entertainment conglomerates are betting big on imperial IP franchises across all forms of media. Anything that’s anything must be a flagship, a sequel, or a tie-in.

Anyway, and apropos of nothing, one of the issues with Split specifically was that a fairly common feeling about MNS getting his mojo back by explicitly easing the throttle on the grand schemes, on “lore” and bluster. The end of Split indicated he was raring to leverage his comeback into a return to the bloated conceptual mythology that had ended his first run at the top. Sure enough, nobody cared about Glass, and he went back to smaller genre pics.

Basic Chunnel posted:

Is SH: Townfall no longer a thing?

Sydney Bottocks posted:

A ton of disease babbling going on here

CuddleCryptid posted:

I love how there is just no point to any of it, they outright tell you what percentage of each ending the character is at and the chat picks dark side or light side. No discussion of possible knock on effects, just live or die from moment go.

bobjr posted:

https://x.com/bobvids/status/1719393688210510300?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw

Nick Buntline posted:

thinking on it, possibly they might literally not be able to do any of that; since people are potentially paying actual money for their votes they might legally be obligated to state exactly what it is each vote does (or obligated by apple, same difference), in the same way gachas all have to post the exact odds of things out to four decimal places. so this is probably going to have the least complexity/responsiveness of any of these types, which is saying something.

can't believe the called shot on "trauma!" it's beyond parody.

That Article posted:

Navok says that Silent Hill: Ascension won’t be pay-to-win; viewers can’t simply spend a bunch of money on IP to outvote their fellow Silent Hill fans. And while IP can be purchased directly and unlocked through the season pass, there are free ways to earn the points. In addition to its branching narrative scenes, Ascension has moments called Endurance Scenes, real-time QTEs that viewers can participate in to decide characters’ fate (and earn them IP).

Mr E posted:

That Silent Hill TV Show looks awful. I hope F is good but really at this point I'd prefer Konami to go back to not making games at all.

glitchwraith posted:

This all seems to boil down to one simple fact: derivative work is not guaranteed to be as good as the original. That's it. That the sequels/prequels/spin-offs/side stories tie into other creative works is entirely immaterial because normal sequels are just as likely to be bad, tarnish the overall perception of the franchise, misunderstand the elements that made the original so good or successful, and/or be just as vulnerable to ill thought out decisions made with monetary rather than creative motivations in mind. That doesn't mean you have to like it, but assuming a large interconnected universe inherently means better or worse quality simply does not follow.

ChickenHeart posted:

Okay but how do we influence the viewers to go for the UFO ending

Basic Chunnel posted:

On the contrary, I maintain that tying a particular vehicle to a broader universal tapestry is a two-way street and it’s just as likely that the greater franchise can reflect poorly on the entry as the entry reflecting poorly on the franchise. If the universe isn’t exciting, then it can easily threaten to cool down a specific entry as that entry focuses, however briefly, on its connection to that universe.

exquisite tea posted:

I think if you wanted to do a parody deconstruction of Silent Hill it's hard to imagine anything more perfect than whatever this is.

Tired Moritz posted:

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