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It wasn't a single loop it was a loop for each population block. You can also use roadblocks to connect things a little more without loving up your agents. Dynasty, the China flavored game, lets you manage permissions per agent type at gates so you have even more control.
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Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of ancient games are, like more recent ones, designed to be used in multiple ways, like playing cards. And see also tarot cards for the crossover with mysticism and fortune telling. And also similar to board games, I imagine there'd be cheaper and more accessible ways to play them as well as the fancy custom made pieces that we've found. Fancy chess sets vs travel chess and so on. Of course, there's never really been as solid a line as people think between what's everyday culture and what's solemn and sacred, I think it was Aristotle who is on the record complaining that all the stories of Zeus going around loving everything that moves as everything that moves are making a joke of Zeus.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of ancient games are, like more recent ones, designed to be used in multiple ways, like playing cards. And see also tarot cards for the crossover with mysticism and fortune telling. And also similar to board games, I imagine there'd be cheaper and more accessible ways to play them as well as the fancy custom made pieces that we've found. Fancy chess sets vs travel chess and so on. The cheapest way was to scratch or draw the board shape onto a flat surface, use something handy as markers and dice - royal game of Ur's dice are just pyramids with one tip marked so would be easy to make, and for markers you could just use coins or rocks. Here's a picture of a game board scratched next to a protective sculpture https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/W_1850-1228-4_1, so we have definite evidence of people playing games without a proper board.
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Mayonnaise is named after a city called Mahon, thats named after Hannibals brother, Mago Barca. Next time you’re eating that BLT, think of all the Romans that dude killed.
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Who do you guys think is the most under represented figure in ancient Rome? Someone with a lot of significance, or a compelling story, but there’s no quality documentary or film about them? Gaius Marius, Stilicho, Egalabalus for example. Someone who needs that exposure like Hypatia got with the film Agora.
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Probably someone of female and or peasant persuasion, given that their representation is essentially zero, in either pop culture or the historical record. In terms of underrepresented famous Romans in modern works, probably the Gracchi, Aurelian, or yea any of the post Gothic War magisters militum.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:In terms of underrepresented famous Romans in modern works, probably the Gracchi, Aurelian, or yea any of the post Gothic War magisters militum. this seems like a reasonable list but really anybody outside of the narrow caesar-jesus time period might as well not exist unless you're a rome nerd or catholic or both
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There was some weird historical RTS made by a Chinese company with a wild cast, Napoleon, Genghis Khan etc etc. But it had Aetius as the Rome représentative. Bizarre
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Is that one of the ones where it's blobs of Rome, Greece, Egypt and like Babylon or something dueling it out?
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I feel there's potential for set of miniseries for the Years of the X Emperors. Lots of interesting characters, political intrigue, military stuff, broad sweeps of Roman society at a particular time. Best of all, the years of 4, 5 and 6 Emperors happened in that order chronologically, so you've already got the Ocean's 11 type sequel numbers built in. (I'm imagining Adam Sandler as Vespasian constantly dropping terrible dad jokes to the chagrin of Titus and Domitian.)
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ChocNitty posted:Who do you guys think is the most under represented figure in ancient Rome? Diocletian. Rose from nobody to literal god-emperor of the known world, lived to retire. For that matter, the whole rise and fall of the Constantinian dynasty. From military politicians on the make to god-emperors to prototypic Christian kings to extinction in the male line, all within one lifetime! Where’s my I, Claudius-esque epic about that?
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Elissimpark posted:I feel there's potential for set of miniseries for the Years of the X Emperors. Lots of interesting characters, political intrigue, military stuff, broad sweeps of Roman society at a particular time. "Dad! I'm trapped in Rome and angry mobs are burning town the Temple to Jupiter!" "Hi Trapped in Rome, I'm Vespasian."
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sullat posted:"Dad! I'm trapped in Rome and angry mobs are burning town the Temple to Jupiter!" Your username reminded me that I want a good fictional version of Sulla's life because I have never really studied it in specific and he sounds like a fun type of lunatic to watch on TV.
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ChocNitty posted:Mayonnaise is named after a city called Mahon, thats named after Hannibals brother, Mago Barca. No way! I come from just down the road (well, just down the sea) from Mahon and never knew that!
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Tulip posted:Your username reminded me that I want a good fictional version of Sulla's life because I have never really studied it in specific and he sounds like a fun type of lunatic to watch on TV. First books in very fun Masters of Rome series by Colleen McCullough have Sulla in very prominent role!
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Tulip posted:Your username reminded me that I want a good fictional version of Sulla's life because I have never really studied it in specific and he sounds like a fun type of lunatic to watch on TV. First Man in Rome. Sulla would also be my answer for least known consequential Roman guy
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Going to write a YA book about the wonderful relationship between Caracalla and Geta.
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zoux posted:First Man in Rome. Agrippa? Wasn't Octavian's rise to becoming Augustus basically dependent on Agrippa's very unusual blend of extreme competence and extreme loyalty? Also my phone autocorrected Augustus to Autistic and I almost left it that way 
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I think everyone knows who knows about Augustus knows who Agrippa was. He's the greatest best friend a man could have. Sulla is probably less known unless you actually care about Roman history.
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That's fair. A lot of peoples' knowledge of named Romans stops at Julius Caesar and most of the people who know more than that probably do know about Agrippa.
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Embarrassing admission, I know a little about Augustus but nothing about Agrippa. Time to start learning!
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Benagain posted:Embarrassing admission, I know a little about Augustus but nothing about Agrippa. Time to start learning! He's showing his disappointment in you. Agrippa was the greatest bro one could ever have. 
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Benagain posted:Embarrassing admission, I know a little about Augustus but nothing about Agrippa. Time to start learning! He was the Samwise to Octavian's Frodo!
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Eh … More like Harry and Hermione
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We can trace Samwise’s ancestry like five generations further back than Agrippa’s. Lol
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skasion posted:We can trace Samwise’s ancestry like five generations further back than Agrippa’s. Lol
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Nessus posted:Hobbits bothered to write important poo poo down Also, Romans were snobbier. Seneca says (On Benefits III.32) that when Agrippa became famous, people looked up his family to see who these Vipsanii were. But they couldn’t find poo poo, presumably either because Agrippa was purposely covering it up or because they were so unimportant nobody cared.
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He was a secret Sackville-Baggins, of course he covered it up Also is the proper pronunciation of the double i plurals used in Latin, for example Vipsanii, "Vipsany" or "vipsany-i"
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skasion posted:We can trace Samwise’s ancestry like five generations further back than Agrippa’s. Lol on the other hand it isn't a hobbit's foot that got used as the model for the imperial measure
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zoux posted:He was a secret Sackville-Baggins, of course he covered it up I like the flow of whip-san-ee-ee, but I don't know how it should be said.
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zoux posted:He was a secret Sackville-Baggins, of course he covered it up In fancy assed rhetorical Latin, probably “wipsanee-ee”. In general speech who knows.
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I'd probably be pretty disillusioned if I got sent back in time to End of Republic Rome, bunch of 5'1'' dirty guys going "weenie weenie weenie" constantly. And they'd probably call me a barbarian!
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Agrippa was Augustus's big battle-winning guy when Augustus was still just kind of a scrub at war going up against veteran Mark Antony. He could've probably had a decent go at becoming emperor if he wanted; later generals definitely did based on their own personal competence (maybe it would've been harder before Augustus set up the position of Emperor, but Agrippa could've definitely done somethin'). But then Agrippa didn't, he and Augustus stuck together. Which is much like Samwise Gamgee having the Ring of Power, knowing he could become a great leader and conqueror with its power, and then just deciding not to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PE-5ETUtW4
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Sam and Frodo were not the same age, did not grow up together. They were way different classes in a really classist society (the white ) It’s not a good comparison. Agrippa was never Octavians servant
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My fav post doing that comparison was something like Hey bro can you hold this ring for a sec? Sure boss.... Hey, can I have it back now? Sure boss.
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zoux posted:I'd probably be pretty disillusioned if I got sent back in time to End of Republic Rome, bunch of 5'1'' dirty guys going "weenie weenie weenie" constantly. And they'd probably call me a barbarian! Dirty? Ouch. Go to Agrippa’s baths! It only costs a quarter! SlothfulCobra posted:Agrippa was Augustus's big battle-winning guy when Augustus was still just kind of a scrub at war going up against veteran Mark Antony. He could've probably had a decent go at becoming emperor if he wanted; later generals definitely did based on their own personal competence (maybe it would've been harder before Augustus set up the position of Emperor, but Agrippa could've definitely done somethin'). But then Agrippa didn't, he and Augustus stuck together. If Agrippa had tried to seize power or strike out on his own, he would have been killed off or laughed out of town as an arriviste. He was literally just some guy who happened to be really good at working with young Caesar. He had no relevance to anyone outside this context. Tacitus’ “secret of empire”, that anyone with a provincial army could be king, was more than a lifetime away. Two of the Four Emperors about whom he was complaining there were of undistinguished Italian families: Vitellius, whose father had been consul three times, and Vespasian, who had been (gasp!) born a knight. A guy like Agrippa wouldn’t have had a prayer, which is why it is so notable that a few centuries later a guy like Diocletian really could rise from nowhere to empire in one career. The comparison of Salvidienus, another of young Caesar’s no-name Italian friends, is illustrative. In 40, when Antonius was the leading man of Rome and coming home from the east to make new arrangements with young Caesar, Salvidienus decided he would abandon Caesar and go over to Antony with his legions. Antony told this to Caesar, who summoned Salvidienus, threw the accusation in his face, and had him executed.
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Though I also remember a Macbeth version Hail Augustus, who will be emperor! Hail Agrippa, whose children will be emperors thereafter. Hey boss, looks like our kids are gonna get hitched.
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skasion posted:Dirty? Ouch. Go to Agrippa’s baths! It only costs a quarter! Here's your olive oil and scraping stick.
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