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If you grow up in a landlocked state most famous for it's giant fishless lake then some ignorance of piscine preparation is acceptable, but really it's not too much to ask that a Senator refrain from putting ketchup on salmon.
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MixMasterMalaria posted:If you grow up in a landlocked state most famous for it's giant fishless lake then some ignorance of piscine preparation is acceptable, but really it's not too much to ask that a Senator refrain from putting ketchup on salmon. Michigan?
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Nov 2, 2023 06:30
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Rust Martialis posted:Michigan? Utah
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Nov 2, 2023 06:51
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SirFozzie posted:57 Dems either voted no, Present, or Did not vote, 155 voted to expel. While salacious, Santos crimes a small potatoes in the annals of Congress. It's a high bar to become the 3rd guy since the Civil War to be expelled. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Members of Congress only have to report their bank accounts if they are interest-bearing or maintain a balance over $5,000. So, he either lives paycheck to paycheck, keeps everything in cash in a non-interest bearing checking account with no savings account, or he's not fully disclosing his assets. Couldn't he just be using the Rick Scott play of giving everything to his wife? Can't have any conflicts of interest if your long time roommate in matrimony is the one who owns everything.
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Nov 2, 2023 07:17
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Angry_Ed posted:Utah He was born and raised in Michigan.
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Nov 2, 2023 07:36
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DeadlyMuffin posted:He was born and raised in Michigan. Where the trees are just the right height.
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Nov 2, 2023 08:38
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And he also used to be governor of Massachusetts, we have fish here!! 
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Nov 2, 2023 12:13
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We're talking about a guy whose "favorite meat" is hotdogs. 6 year olds who are extremely picky eaters have a more developed palate than him. I believe for one of his birthdays he had a cake made out of Twinkies. The man has no taste buds.
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Nov 2, 2023 12:27
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Young Freud posted:loving pearls before swine. Salmon burgers are fine, but putting ketchup is gross as hell. Use tartar sauce or dill mustard or something, Jesus. The funny part of this is actually that Romney is the kind of person to feel like he has to eat something he doesn't like because it was a gift from a co-worker. Big Midwest energy.
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Nov 2, 2023 13:40
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He didn't become a millionaire by wasting food.
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Nov 2, 2023 13:43
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Ketchup is gross but tartar sauce is disgusting
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Nov 2, 2023 13:49
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Gyges posted:We're talking about a guy whose "favorite meat" is hotdogs. 6 year olds who are extremely picky eaters have a more developed palate than him. Out of curiosity did he ever hold stock in hostess? That feels like CEO level move of “buy our crap for everything!” Young Freud posted:loving pearls before swine. Salmon burgers are fine, but putting ketchup is gross as hell. Use tartar sauce or dill mustard or something, Jesus. Jokes on you, I now putt all the above on it 
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Nov 2, 2023 13:59
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Gyges posted:Couldn't he just be using the Rick Scott play of giving everything to his wife? Can't have any conflicts of interest if your long time roommate in matrimony is the one who owns everything. He is supposed to include his wife's holdings as well. He reports his wife's salary on the disclosure forms. Gyges posted:We're talking about a guy whose "favorite meat" is hotdogs. 6 year olds who are extremely picky eaters have a more developed palate than him. Morrow posted:He didn't become a millionaire by wasting food. KillHour posted:The funny part of this is actually that Romney is the kind of person to feel like he has to eat something he doesn't like because it was a gift from a co-worker. Big Midwest energy. Gyges posted:We're talking about a guy whose "favorite meat" is hotdogs. 6 year olds who are extremely picky eaters have a more developed palate than him. All of the food weirdness is explained by being raised Mormon. Those are all extremely Mormon food habits.
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Nov 2, 2023 14:21
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Doesn't Johnson also have 4 children? I don't want to defend that guy, but depending on the lifestyle you're trying to provide, providing for 4 kids will easily leave you with no savings and little in the way of investments.
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Nov 2, 2023 14:39
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Eric Cantonese posted:Doesn't Johnson also have 4 children? I don't want to defend that guy, but depending on the lifestyle you're trying to provide, providing for 4 kids will easily leave you with no savings and little in the way of investments. Yes, he does. The other thing that leads me to believe it might be true that he has very few assets is that he has a large personal loan, a heloc, and a mortgage on top of that. I'm not sure how lucrative his previous jobs were either: quote:Johnson was senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund, now known as Alliance Defending Freedom He was basically a nonprofit evangelical legal advocate, a "Founding Dean" for an online Christian law school that never opened, a member of a nonprofit advisory board for the Southern Baptist Convention, founded his own nonprofit Christian legal group, and then became a professor at Liberty University teaching online classes. Those could potentially pay well, but are also the types of jobs that are generally the lowest-paying legal positions (outside of public defenders or really bad lawyers with their own firm).
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Nov 2, 2023 14:47
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:All of the food weirdness is explained by being raised Mormon. Those are all extremely Mormon food habits. As an ex-Mormon, I’m gonna have to rate this statement as false. I grew up eating the standard Midwestern diet. Which…is also catered to people with no taste buds. But at least I didn’t grow up eating fish with ketchup 
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Nov 2, 2023 14:51
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:All of the food weirdness is explained by being raised Mormon. Those are all extremely Mormon food habits. I'd put up even money that he enjoys that atrocious "ambrosia salad" stuff too. It's the whitest of white-people things to do and fits right in with everything else discussed so far.
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Nov 2, 2023 14:53
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Romney lived in France for two years. No excuse.
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Nov 2, 2023 15:04
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Xiahou Dun posted:Romney lived in France for two years. Living in France while not being able to have the coffee or the wine, fasting every Sunday and supposedly having to minimize your meat consumption sounds like torture. I bet he's full of hate for foodie culture.
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Nov 2, 2023 15:10
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Tbh people comically gagging at extremely common sauces like ketchup/mayo make me want to eat like garbage too, just to spite them. « I are Taco Bell once and had diarrhea for a week » no you didn’t man
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Nov 2, 2023 15:38
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Don't be a snob. Don't be a philistine. That's my advice for a happy life. That'll be $500.
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Nov 2, 2023 15:52
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Some depressing and crazy info about the Maine mass shooter. - The army decided in July that he wasn't allowed to use his service weapon, possess live ammunition, or participate in any live-fire drills after concern about his erratic behavior. The army eventually sent him to a mental health facility for two weeks. - The shooter tried to buy a silencer from a gun store a few months ago, but the gun store turned him away after he checked a box saying that he had been committed to a mental institution. - The shop declined to sell him the silencer, but did not report his attempt to purchase it because federal law doesn't require gun stores to send a report to the ATF if they are denied a sale because of a voluntary commitment to a mental health facility. - His family also alerted the army about concerns regarding his mental health. His family did not do anything to restrict his access to guns, though. They believed he wouldn't actually hurt anyone. - After the army sent him to a mental health facility, they sent someone to perform a health and wellness check on him. The army representative couldn't find him or get in contact with him for two days and put out a notice to law enforcement about the shooter. The shooter was eventually found and taken home. - After this event, the army asked the family again to prevent him from accessing firearms because they legally could only do so on the base. His family said they would "try to secure any firearms" he had, but never did. - Roughly 1.5 months later he committed the mass shooting. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1719832940740272536
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Nov 2, 2023 15:57
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I feel like the majority of the blame here has to be on the Army. They knew he was a problem and kept him around.
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Nov 2, 2023 16:15
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FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like the majority of the blame here has to be on the Army. They knew he was a problem and kept him around. I only know the story from what Trotsky 2012 just shared but to me it sounds like the army did the most they could - they kept him from weapons, sent him to get treated, communicated the urgency of the issue to the family and the cops. It really seems like the family are the ones who could've stopped this, by separating him from his guns, and they didn't.
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Nov 2, 2023 16:18
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Some depressing and crazy info about the Maine mass shooter. FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like the majority of the blame here has to be on the Army. They knew he was a problem and kept him around.
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Nov 2, 2023 16:20
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FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like the majority of the blame here has to be on the Army. They knew he was a problem and kept him around. They banned him from having weapons everywhere they could, and tried to get the people that could go further to do so. In the wise words of one Mr. Gambino, "This is America". If they had taken private guns out of a private residence half the loving country would have flipped their god drat poo poo about gun-grabbers finally coming for Jade Helm black helicopters lead by a commie-marxist-socialist-triple-Hitler. He wasn't active duty living on base, he was a reserve soldier, they did everything they could within the hosed up bounds we have around guns.
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Nov 2, 2023 16:23
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Even if his family had taken his guns away, he could still legally purchase a new one. He technically voluntarily went to the mental institution and wasn't committed. Seems like the family messed up, but he could have also gotten another gun without too much of a hassle. Legally, the family couldn't actually take his guns permanently either. But, I doubt he would end up calling the police or going to court to get them back.
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Nov 2, 2023 16:23
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He couldn't actually buy any guns past that point though? It sounds like he had the guns from before his symptoms.
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Nov 2, 2023 16:24
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Yeah, it sounds like the army did all they were legally allowed to do, then told his family "hey this guy is just short of a danger to himself and others, can you help keep guns away from him" and they said "nah" and now here we are
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Nov 2, 2023 16:24
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if his family had taken his guns away, he could still legally purchase a new one. He was blocked from buying the silencers, is that not what would've happened if he'd tried to buy a gun? haveblue posted:Yeah, it sounds like the army did all they were legally allowed to do, then told his family "hey this guy is just short of a danger to himself and others, can you help keep guns away from him" and they said "nah" and now here we are This is my understanding too
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Nov 2, 2023 16:26
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Raenir Salazar posted:He couldn't actually buy any guns past that point though? It sounds like he had the guns from before his symptoms. Civilized Fishbot posted:He was blocked from buying the silencers, is that not what would've happened if he'd tried to buy a gun? You can still buy guns if you are voluntarily checked into a mental institution. You are only banned if you are adjudicated as mentally ill or forcibly committed. He actually technically filled out his form wrong when trying to buy the silencer. Unless there was a military tribunal judge that forced him to go that hasn't been reported or there was a state law used to forcibly commit him. Edit: The gun shop declined to sell it to him because he filled out on the card that he was committed, but he legally could still have purchased it if he didn't self-identify. quote:The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives confirmed to CBS News in a statement Tuesday that the also gunman attempted to purchase a silencer at a Maine gun shop "a few months ago." Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Nov 2, 2023 |
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Nov 2, 2023 16:27
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The modern military is more sensitive to mental health concerns than it used to be and depriving service members of their rights is just as serious as it is for civilians, even though the UCMJ provides some flexibility. It’s not actually uncommon for service members to express thoughts of harming themselves and their coworkers and what the Army did here is consistent with my understanding of what they’re allowed to do with folks who are compliant and self-reporting. The real failure, yet again, is with modern 2nd Amendment interpretations intentionally preventing real action to stop a threat.
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Nov 2, 2023 16:50
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Problem is they will straight up ruin every part of your life if you claim mental issues instead of supporting you. If you want folks to give everything away you need to support them. Government would rather you have no options and off yourself. It’s only a problem for them if you go out with a bang.
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Nov 2, 2023 17:37
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I mean all of these MAss Shooters are law abiding citizens until the moment they go on a massacre. The common refrain from conservatives is to just enforce the law on the books but that wouldn't prevent most of these shootings.
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Nov 2, 2023 17:37
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The Daily (NYT podcast) today is about Robert Card and how he was able to commit these crimes while clearly posing a danger. I recommend a listen, it's a good and depressing overview of the situation. The moral of the story is that everyone seems to have done the "right thing" with the possible exception of the local Sherriff's office. They could have used Maine's "yellow flag" laws to take his guns, and did not even try.
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Nov 2, 2023 17:54
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This is literally happening in my town (I have two small kids in school) right now. A man made credible threats of a mass shooting. Has a history of untreated mental illness. Threatened to kill a British government official in 2016 and went to federal prison. Thinks the FBI are trying to frame him. Was arrested. Released on $1000 bond. Got arrested again after using his phone to call the news station and say the FBI was trying to frame him (using his phone was a violation of his pre-trial agreement from yesterday's arrest). https://www.wral.com/story/cary-man-arrested-for-threats-against-children-tells-wral-it-was-a-misunderstanding/21127615/
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Kalit posted:As an ex-Mormon, I’m gonna have to rate this statement as false. I grew up eating the standard Midwestern diet. I bet you ate tons of fish sticks dipped in ketchup. Mid-Life Crisis posted:Problem is they will straight up ruin every part of your life if you claim mental issues instead of supporting you. If you want folks to give everything away you need to support them. Government would rather you have no options and off yourself. It’s only a problem for them if you go out with a bang. Why do you say that? It doesn't appear to be the case here.
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PeterWeller posted:Why do you say that? It doesn't appear to be the case here. Once you get admitted you lose ability to maintain any life you had on the outside unless you have some family come in and salvage everything. You can’t just go in and have any chance of reclaiming everything. Pretty much already need to be homeless and jobless if you want to go that route. People need protections and that will cost money.
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Nov 2, 2023 18:45
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Mid-Life Crisis posted:Once you get admitted you lose ability to maintain any life you had on the outside unless you have some family come in and salvage everything. You can’t just go in and have any chance of reclaiming everything. Pretty much already need to be homeless and jobless if you want to go that route. People need protections and that will cost money. I'm confused. I thought you were talking about the military, but now it sounds like you're talking about a mental health institution.
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Sub Par posted:The Daily (NYT podcast) today is about Robert Card and how he was able to commit these crimes while clearly posing a danger. I recommend a listen, it's a good and depressing overview of the situation. The moral of the story is that everyone seems to have done the "right thing" with the possible exception of the local Sherriff's office. They could have used Maine's "yellow flag" laws to take his guns, and did not even try. This is very similar to what happened in the Aurora, IL shooting. Guy had bought guns legally, but later on it was discovered that he had a felony conviction in another state, so his firearm card (FOID in Illinois) was revoked. The state police said he needs to turn in his guns, but did zero follow up on it. He then used those guns to shoot up his old work place.
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