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DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Gyges posted:

I'd say that short guys do have hurdles in some aspects of life. The funny thing is average rear end height dipshits like DeSantis who get bent out of shape about their height. You know all the guys who swear they're six foot even but seem to be 2 inches shorter than the 6 mark on the side of the gas station door.

I'm short and I haven't given a poo poo since my first year of high school

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
It unfortunately does seem to track that tall people are more likely to win elections, ceterus paribus, to a sufficient degree that it's a troubling reflection of how shallow the basis is for some voter's decisions. A sufficiently shallow and insecure pol will fixate on this.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Ron is between 5'6" and 5'7".

That's definitely shorter than the average man by a couple inches, but it isn't horrendously short.

Trump does the same thing where he is actually fairly tall, but still lies about his height. He claims he is 6'3", but he is shorter than Obama who is 6'2". He's probably actually around 6 feet or 6'1", which is still pretty tall!

daslog posted:

I've been remiss in posting the mailings. Here are the last two weeks worth. If I posted a double by mistake, it's because after a while they all look the same.



Our kids are failing capitalism and socialism in this scenario. Supply and Demand 101 should tell us that nobody is going to purchase a glass of lemonade for $33 trillion. Haley wants us to think of the children, but also apparently thinks they are morons who are (even worse) bad at business.

skeleton warrior
Nov 12, 2016


I mean, “won’t anyone think of the children; also, gently caress the children and all future generations” has been a GOP plank since Reagan

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
As a card-carrying shorter than DeSantis shorty, lol at dudes who need platform shoes to feel like a man, but lol even more at tall dudes who still need to exaggerate their height. Lookin at you Donald.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Trump does the same thing where he is actually fairly tall, but still lies about his height. He claims he is 6'3", but he is shorter than Obama who is 6'2". He's probably actually around 6 feet or 6'1", which is still pretty tall!

My guess is that he might've actually been 6'3" at one point, but, being a perfect metaphor for his country, he's unable to acknowledge his decline over time. I was 6'3" at age 27 so I must be at least that tall 50 years later.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Civilized Fishbot posted:

My guess is that he might've actually been 6'3" at one point, but, being a perfect metaphor for his country, he's unable to acknowledge his decline over time. I was 6'3" at age 27 so I must be at least that tall 50 years later.

He also has the incentive to lie about his height as it facilitates lying about his weight.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!
The saddest thing is people who are proud of their height, like they earned it.

Spiffster
Oct 7, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...


Lipstick Apathy

StumblyWumbly posted:

The saddest thing is people who are proud of their height, like they earned it.

If anything get tall can be a detriment. I’d like to fit in vehicles properly without feeling like the tall man in the bug from the Simpsons. Have to drive an SUV just to have a small amount of head and leg room.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Spiffster posted:

If anything get tall can be a detriment. I’d like to fit in vehicles properly without feeling like the tall man in the bug from the Simpsons. Have to drive an SUV just to have a small amount of head and leg room.

Everything seems to be "normed" to an assumed height of six feet.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Everything seems to be "normed" to an assumed height of six feet.

False. I'm 6 feet tall and my knees bang into the dashboard of my Scion iA every time I hit a bump.

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007

quote:

"I know Donald Trump and a lot of his people have been focusing on things like footwear. I'll tell you this. If Donald Trump can summon the balls to show up to the debate. I'll wear a boot on my head.

This is the origin story of nega-Vermin Supreme happening in real time.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!
Would you rather be Andre the Giant or Peter Dinklage?

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Spiffster posted:

If anything get tall can be a detriment. I’d like to fit in vehicles properly without feeling like the tall man in the bug from the Simpsons. Have to drive an SUV just to have a small amount of head and leg room.

I’ve heard this a lot but y’all giants do realize that short people also have to deal with this? I’d like to be able to use the top shelves of our kitchen without having to lift my wife up to reach it. I’d like to work in kitchens where I can reach everything in my assigned station. Everything on earth is designed for “average height male”

Also js tall is almost universally seen as good and sexy whereas short is almost universally seen as bad and weak.

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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mannerup fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 5, 2023

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

mannerup posted:

being able to get drunk off a single tall can instead of 119 beers is a point in favor of Dinklage

Andre pretty infamously drank like a fish because he had chronic neck pain from having to hunch over to fit in cars and trailers

Trazz
Jun 11, 2008
The Desantis campaign is in a real lovely situation
They can't talk about real policies, because they don't have any
They can't talk about Trump being a criminal, because Desantis has already said that Trump is being politically prosecuted by the Jews Soros
Ron could just NOT wear lifts in his heels I guess, but that would be capitulating to his critics

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

DarklyDreaming posted:

Andre pretty infamously drank like a fish because he had chronic neck pain from having to hunch over to fit in cars and trailers

Andre never had his pituitary gland addressed, which caused his chronic pain and subsequent alcohol abuse, not to mention a career where you travel frequently and fall down a lot.

This still remains required reading on these here internets: https://drunkard.com/10_06_andre_giant/

Xalidur
Jun 4, 2012

I'm a 5'4" dude and I simply married a tall woman so that she could get things down from the top shelf for me. Life is only a challenge if you don't strategize.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I’ve heard this a lot but y’all giants do realize that short people also have to deal with this? I’d like to be able to use the top shelves of our kitchen without having to lift my wife up to reach it. I’d like to work in kitchens where I can reach everything in my assigned station. Everything on earth is designed for “average height male”

Also js tall is almost universally seen as good and sexy whereas short is almost universally seen as bad and weak.

https://twitter.com/nathanwpyle/status/1167477347462930432

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


The Law of the Tall: we must always provide our reach when asked, but may never offer our assistance unsolicited.

Internet Savant
Feb 14, 2008
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ninjahedgehog posted:

The Law of the Tall: we must always provide our reach when asked, but may never offer our assistance unsolicited.

Slight wrinkle to this very important law of society:
You can offer assistance unasked if you are psychic and retrieve the item before it is verbally requested.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1721136469903913000

nine point lead in Nevada lol

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
How is Trump even remotely competitive? Red America is a blight on society.

But these are the same polls that said 2022 was going to be a red tsunami, polling just completely lacks credibility in the year 2023.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

better get unskewin', gonna be a long cycle

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬
.

mannerup fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 5, 2023

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Mustang posted:

these are the same polls that said 2022 was going to be a red tsunami, polling just completely lacks credibility in the year 2023.

Which party will the narrative say was ruined by third-party spoilers? Greens hurting libs in 2016, Libertarians hurting cons in 2020... failure demands a scapegoat.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

i say swears online posted:

better get unskewin', gonna be a long cycle

“The margin of sampling error for each state poll is plus or minus 4.4 percentage points in Arizona, Michigan and Nevada, plus or minus 4.5 points in Georgia, plus or minus 4.6 points in Pennsylvania and plus or minus 4.8 points in Wisconsin.”

I guess because the total sample was only 3,662 so at the state level it’s not great.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Space Fish posted:

Which party will the narrative say was ruined by third-party spoilers? Greens hurting libs in 2016, Libertarians hurting cons in 2020... failure demands a scapegoat.

the good brother doctor is going to catch a lot of heat if he's not too lazy to campaign

Seph
Jul 12, 2004

Please look at this photo every time you support or defend war crimes. Thank you.
Is there any plausible explanation for how Nevada has swung 14 points towards Trump since 2020? I find that hard to believe and makes the rest of the results extremely dubious to me.

Like I get the economy isn’t doing great and people aren’t happy with I/P, so I’m not surprised Biden’s numbers are down. It’s just the magnitude of it that is making me skeptical. A 14 point swing in a single election cycle seems unprecedented in modern US politics. Has that ever happened in a presidential election since, like, Reagan?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

it's across two cycles but indiana 2008 -> 2012 -> 2016 was a big one

Bodyholes
Jun 30, 2005

Polls were highly suspicious up to mid-October although I could believe Biden would lose the election if it were held right now. Good thing it's a year from now.

Mustang posted:

How is Trump even remotely competitive? Red America is a blight on society.

But these are the same polls that said 2022 was going to be a red tsunami, polling just completely lacks credibility in the year 2023.

If the polls are correct than now, at long last, about a decade later than expected, millennials have become conservative. Apparently profoundly so, and Trump will be our generation's Reagan. That seems to be the main takeaway. Of course, polls could also be wrong.

skeleton warrior
Nov 12, 2016


The poll mostly states that Republicans remain 1000000000000000% in lock-step behind Trump and no number of felonies or indictments or statements he makes will peel them away, while Biden is having serious trouble keeping young and minority voters interested in supporting him.

Nevada support collapsing is because the Democratic party in Nevada is overwhelmingly young and minorities, so the demographic effects hits there harder.

Nate Cohn goes into more detail, but basically 'generic Democrat' or even Kamala Harris runs hugely ahead of Biden; Biden is in a position where all of the political failures of the last four years are laid on him and he's thought of as old and out of touch.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1721158482127466507

Is it real? Does it matter if it's a year out? I'm not sure either does when it will be what all of the pundits natter about for the next two weeks.

Seph
Jul 12, 2004

Please look at this photo every time you support or defend war crimes. Thank you.
I'd want to see corroboration from other polls before coming to the conclusion that Biden's support from minorities and younger generations has *completely collapsed*. Directionally it makes sense, but the magnitude seems way off. I suspect there could be sampling issues like other posters mentioned - who answers their phone these days? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Trazz posted:

The Desantis campaign is in a real lovely situation
They can't talk about real policies, because they don't have any
They can't talk about Trump being a criminal, because Desantis has already said that Trump is being politically prosecuted by the Jews Soros
Ron could just NOT wear lifts in his heels I guess, but that would be capitulating to his critics

Ron can basicaly run on social poo poo because the only people who are going for desatnis are the rich social conservatives who want ghoulish poo poo but not as loud(which lol that ship sailed) and the weird internet twitter/channer bigots who are more the
"professor bigot" types more then trumps "common man bigot screaming slurs" type. desantis is the dude who is a told weird skull shape and blood droplets types for his base, aka asocial aweirdos.

skeleton warrior posted:

The poll mostly states that Republicans remain 1000000000000000% in lock-step behind Trump and no number of felonies or indictments or statements he makes will peel them away, while Biden is having serious trouble keeping young and minority voters interested in supporting him.

Nevada support collapsing is because the Democratic party in Nevada is overwhelmingly young and minorities, so the demographic effects hits there harder.

Nate Cohn goes into more detail, but basically 'generic Democrat' or even Kamala Harris runs hugely ahead of Biden; Biden is in a position where all of the political failures of the last four years are laid on him and he's thought of as old and out of touch.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1721158482127466507

Is it real? Does it matter if it's a year out? I'm not sure either does when it will be what all of the pundits natter about for the next two weeks.

i think it depends. I think alot of younger progressives want bigger dramatic stuff(biden has done a bunch of good stuff and even went back and helped folks more like the train unions and various student stuff) and are also pissed about the israel horror show(justifiably). My view from various discords is people dont like biden for various reasons but they hate the GOP more. I think it all depends where we are next summer. also the elections tomarrow. I think biden does need to be doing more stuff at least visibly mixed with being way loving louder about israel not burning gaza to the ground at least.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

that "various student stuff" has directly lowered my standard of living more than any other president in my lifetime

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

i say swears online posted:

that "various student stuff" has directly lowered my standard of living more than any other president in my lifetime

isnt he trying to get the stuff done through other offices now. like he can't forgive it fully but either slow walk and or make it way easier to get forgiven?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

the supreme court said he couldn't use covid money to forgive it or something but he never tried to use the full power of the executive, which has been a remarkably robust legal theory the last few decades

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

i say swears online posted:

the supreme court said he couldn't use covid money to forgive it or something but he never tried to use the full power of the executive, which has been a remarkably robust legal theory the last few decades

The Supreme Court said he couldn't do it via executive action without congress appropriating money for it via the law used during covid (HEROES Act of 2003).

The other law that may allow the Secretary of Education to forgive debt is the Higher Education Act of 1965, but it requires significant time due to legally required rule-making procedures. They started that up this summer and it probably won't be resolved until the end of next year. That act also requires a committee made up of various stakeholders to determine the details about forgiveness and state specific groups or statuses that will trigger forgiveness.

The literal wording of the law says that the Secretary of Education can "compromise, waive, or release" loans held by the Department of Education. On its face, it seems pretty robust. But, it also defines student loans as several different types of loans that don't exist anymore. He is using the "full power of the executive" for loan forgiveness now, but I also wouldn't count on the current Supreme Court taking a very generous interpretation of the wording of the law.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
So the primary debate is tonight and i am curious if any of the canidates change tac after the slaughter last night, last night proved even more social conservative poo poo isnt winning for them. obviously the answer will be no but its interesting.

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