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Dokapon Findom posted:Why would you need peoples approval to take the plane, it's flying with or without you on it unlike a private jet Lol yea early covid when planes were flying all over the planet completely empty should have dispelled any myth of individual action on air travel emissions
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Nov 5, 2023 10:16
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Lol yea early covid when planes were flying all over the planet completely empty should have dispelled any myth of individual action on air travel emissions So far in this century there's only been 19 people whose individual actions had a direct and immediate impact on reducing airline emissions, but it only lasted for a couple of days
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Nov 5, 2023 11:24
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lol goddamn
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Nov 5, 2023 12:42
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Dokapon Findom posted:So far in this century there's only been 19 people whose individual actions had a direct and immediate impact on reducing airline emissions, but it only lasted for a couple of days one weird trick to offset your emissions that the united states government hates
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Nov 5, 2023 13:21
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Dokapon Findom posted:So far in this century there's only been 19 people whose individual actions had a direct and immediate impact on reducing airline emissions, but it only lasted for a couple of days Wow As I've said before, the things that would make an actual difference, we are not allowed to talk about
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Nov 5, 2023 13:28
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toggle posted:shits hosed, no one in power cares many are saying this
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Nov 5, 2023 13:28
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Dokapon Findom posted:So far in this century there's only been 19 people whose individual actions had a direct and immediate impact on reducing airline emissions, but it only lasted for a couple of days
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Nov 5, 2023 13:36
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Dokapon Findom posted:So far in this century there's only been 19 people whose individual actions had a direct and immediate impact on reducing airline emissions, but it only lasted for a couple of days 
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Nov 5, 2023 15:42
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Dokapon Findom posted:So far in this century there's only been 19 people whose individual actions had a direct and immediate impact on reducing airline emissions, but it only lasted for a couple of days i thought it was just the one guy 
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Nov 5, 2023 16:11
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Lol yea early covid when planes were flying all over the planet completely empty should have dispelled any myth of individual action on air travel emissions the fault lies not in our stars but in our systems
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Nov 5, 2023 16:12
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Actuary X posted:the things that would make an actual difference, we are not allowed to talk about
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Nov 5, 2023 16:39
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Nov 5, 2023 17:00
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From 2020 https://ieep.eu/news/more-than-half-of-all-co2-emissions-since-1751-emitted-in-the-last-30-years/ quote:Slightly over half of all cumulative global CO2 emissions have taken place since 1990, the year of the first IPCC Assessment Report. The report re-confirmed anthropogenic climate change in a way that could not be ignored and led to the creation of the UNFCCC.  quote:The graph above, however, clearly shows that not only did we not succeed in reducing emissions following those warnings, they have, in fact, also grown substantially, and we have now emitted as much since 1990 as in all of history before that time. This is a significant failing of political and policy leaders. It represents a debt to future generations, as our collective carbon debt continues to pile up. This is what really crack pinged me. Half of human carbon emissions are from the past 30 years, but the solutions are all "starting in 2040," "starting in 2035," "starting in 2050" when hard dates are even set. Policy makers, optimistically, are committing to doubling human carbon emissions before they begin to do anything e: lmao look at how emissions skyrocket under Obama
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Nov 5, 2023 17:24
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one of the more believable subplots in Ministry of the Future is that air travel is finally mostly brought to an end by regular, random drone attacks on passenger airplanes by a secret ecoterrorist group, making everyone afraid to fly they also murder oil billionaires in their homes
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Nov 5, 2023 17:26
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I was with a climate researcher when trump won the election and he started crying on the spot and he explained that he just realized in a single moment that all his research was a waste of time.
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Nov 5, 2023 17:27
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TeenageArchipelago posted:
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Nov 5, 2023 17:27
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Salt Fish posted:I was with a climate researcher when trump won the election and he started crying on the spot and he explained that he just realized in a single moment that all his research was a waste of time. if i were a climate researcher i would cry on every election night and also every night
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Nov 5, 2023 17:36
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Gravid Topiary posted:hi can you extend the graph right further i've got this concern Concerns about 5 more loops not pictured are alarmist and unfounded
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Nov 5, 2023 17:47
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Nov 5, 2023 17:48
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FlapYoJacks posted:
I'm glad it stopped altogether in 2020.. nature is healing
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Nov 5, 2023 17:49
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Salt Fish posted:I was with a climate researcher when trump won the election and he started crying on the spot and he explained that he just realized in a single moment that all his research was a waste of time. If it took Trump getting elected to realize that they werent that bright to begin with
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Nov 5, 2023 17:50
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I don’t think I ever really believed we’d get through the collapse of the ecosystem, but I probably only felt it viscerally when I read a terrible science fiction book back in 2004. So that’s a bit embarrassing. Also, I think it’s probably wrong to think lots of people throughout history would have given much of a poo poo about whether human civilisation was continuing somewhere, as they went through their own localised apocalypse— I don’t know if all those prophets would have the reaction to this we might expect them to with our 2023-era minds
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Nov 5, 2023 17:55
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The day I learned that 63 cruise ships owned by Carnival Corporation released more toxic sulfur gasses than all the cars in Europe (The article is new but the research goes back several years) was the final crack-ping moment for me. We, as consumers, have no way to effectively reduce emissions when 63 cruise ships dump emissions in the air than all of the cars in western Europe combined lmfao.
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Nov 5, 2023 17:58
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Salt Fish posted:I was with a climate researcher when trump won the election and he started crying on the spot and he explained that he just realized in a single moment that all his research was a waste of time. Call them up and explain it was the exact same under every other prez in their lifetime. Their research was a waste starting at the first day on the job. Make fun of their degree. Really rub it in.
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Nov 5, 2023 17:58
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smoobles posted:I'm glad it stopped altogether in 2020.. nature is healing Seriously. The carbon in fossil fuels, you know where it was before it got trapped underground? IT WAS IN THE AIR! ITS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE!!! 200 million years ago there was 2,000 ppm of CO2 in the air and we're doing our part to fix what the dinosaurs broke. We're fixing it in record. loving. Time. gently caress yeah
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Nov 5, 2023 17:59
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And oops it turns out that burning tons of lovely bunker fuel was actually cooling the planet, good thing that's over and done with
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Nov 5, 2023 17:59
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yeah tbh I completely bought into the belief that climate change was real, but its worst effects would be felt by people in 2100. which I guess is technically still true but the curve of fuckedness is much steeper than I thought and guys like me in their 30s will get to experience a whole lot of incomprehensible horrors!
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Nov 5, 2023 17:59
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Fell Mood posted:Call them up and explain it was the exact same under every other prez in their lifetime. Their research was a waste starting at the first day on the job. Really rub it in. Excuse me, this isn't true at all. Republicans: Climate change is a hoax/Climate change is natural but not manmade, but number must go up! As such, drill baby drill. Libs: We see you, we hear you, we believe climate change is natural and manmade, but number must go up! As such, drill baby drill. FlapYoJacks has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Nov 5, 2023 |
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Nov 5, 2023 18:00
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smoobles posted:yeah tbh I completely bought into the belief that climate change was real, but its worst effects would be felt by people in 2100. which I guess is technically still true but the curve of fuckedness is much steeper than I thought and guys like me in their 30s will get to experience a whole lot of incomprehensible horrors! This is me. I lost hope we'd fix anything fairly early, but I always believed the apocalypse would be a distant thing for other people
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Nov 5, 2023 18:02
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Nix Panicus posted:This is me. I lost hope we'd fix anything fairly early, but I always believed the apocalypse would be a distant thing for other people Don't worry, things aren't that bad yet!
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Nov 5, 2023 18:03
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Me, age 8: oh no I hope that I don't die from spontaneous human combustion Me, today: lol lmao, I'm going to be killed by incessant internal combustion
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Nov 5, 2023 18:04
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FlapYoJacks posted:Don't worry, things aren't that bad yet! Its the hottest year in recorded history so far
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Nov 5, 2023 18:06
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Nix Panicus posted:Its the hottest year in recorded history so far Exactly! So far! It's not that hot, yet
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Nov 5, 2023 18:08
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I spent most of 2000 through 2020 advocating for a mass rollout of nuclear power but then covid happened and 
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Nov 5, 2023 18:19
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You all grew up in much more optimistic communities than I did; I don’t know whether to be envious or glad of having pessimism impressed upon me. It was always made very clear to me that I should expect to see very hard times in my lifetime, sometimes through the medium of cartoons
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Nov 5, 2023 18:20
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The Killing Jelq posted:theyre also cheering the return of publicly executing the charismatic megafauna to protect our precious puppers Lmao, people don't even know what wolves are. It was maybe coyotes, probably somebody's escaped huskies that attacked that person's dog. I guarantee they didn't wrestle their dog away from two of these
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Nov 5, 2023 18:52
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FlapYoJacks posted:The day I learned that 63 cruise ships owned by Carnival Corporation released more toxic sulfur gasses than all the cars in Europe (The article is new but the research goes back several years) was the final crack-ping moment for me. We, as consumers, have no way to effectively reduce emissions when 63 cruise ships dump emissions in the air than all of the cars in western Europe combined lmfao. The statistic, while jarring, is a significant decrease from a few years ago, when the organization found ships owned by Carnival Corporation that visited European ports in 2017 emitted 10 times more sulfur oxides than all of Europe's cars. The drop is largely thanks to a 2020 rule from the International Maritime Organization that lowered the sulfur content limit of ship fuel from 3.5% to 0.5%. [that drop corresponds exactly to the regulated sulfur reduction - from 10x*(.5/3.5)=1.43x]
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Nov 5, 2023 18:56
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Dog Case posted:Lmao, people don't even know what wolves are. It was maybe coyotes, probably somebody's escaped huskies that attacked that person's dog. I guarantee they didn't wrestle their dog away from two of these Of course people don't know what wolves are, they almost went extinct
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Nov 5, 2023 19:22
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FlapYoJacks posted:The day I learned that 63 cruise ships owned by Carnival Corporation released more toxic sulfur gasses than all the cars in Europe (The article is new but the research goes back several years) was the final crack-ping moment for me. We, as consumers, have no way to effectively reduce emissions when 63 cruise ships dump emissions in the air than all of the cars in western Europe combined lmfao. Joke is on you, that super dirty fuel actually created a protective cover that reduced the amount of heat absorbed by the planet. As the fuel they used got cleaner their emissions began to contribute more to global warming. Nowadays there is a bunch of Geo engineering psychos recommending high sulfur fuel and their protective poison clouds to heal the earth. It's wild.
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Nov 5, 2023 19:35
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vegetables posted:You all grew up in much more optimistic communities than I did; I don’t know whether to be envious or glad of having pessimism impressed upon me. It was always made very clear to me that I should expect to see very hard times in my lifetime, sometimes through the medium of cartoons I'm 150 years old, and from my perspective you're very sheltered. I knew Earth was doomed in 1898 when the Coal Smoke Abatement Society called for a debate in the House of Lords and was refused. I went on to win several prestigious awards for being despondent in the 1920s.
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Nov 5, 2023 20:17
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