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Three Olives posted:Goddamit. man, I bet an enterprising guy could power so many random screens with all those cables
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Three Olives posted:Goddamit. Stop being loving weird, return that thing and just use a regular loving EVSE. That one doesn't even do the unnecessary thing that you want it to do, even if you somehow get it installed without killing yourself. E: like I invested actual effort into proving that your service is adequate to power a 48A charger, even under the absolute worst case scenario.
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You can do it Three Olives I believe in you
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three olives continuing his “forums Pat” trajectory by doing his own version of the “it’ll electrocute his dick” arc
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Listen to the guy that actually knows about electricity 3O.
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Three Olives posted:One thing that I can't get over and as far as I can tell a thing with tons of WiFi chargers is they set amps with an app and not a physical selector? Seems kind of dangerous but extremely common and big part of the reason I wanted a display on the device. extremely disappointed this doesn't have a bunch of slots to charge the tool batteries
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Three Olives posted:One thing that I can't get over and as far as I can tell a thing with tons of WiFi chargers is they set amps with an app and not a physical selector? Seems kind of dangerous but extremely common and big part of the reason I wanted a display on the device. I just realized that when electric cars finally start getting real traction in Japan that there will inevitably be an Evangelion branded EVSE.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:I just realized that when electric cars finally start getting real traction in Japan that there will inevitably be an Evangelion branded EVSE. déjŕ~  
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mediaphage posted:déjŕ~ 
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Three Olives posted:Goddamit. Could someone explain to me what all this poo poo is? I don't recognize any of it. Other than 3.5mm male TS plugs, which I'm going to wager aren't for audio. cruft fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Nov 5, 2023 |
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cruft posted:Could someone explain to me what all this poo poo is? I don't recognize any of it. I’m glad I’m not the only one. To me it kinda looks like the kit I bought on AliExpress to convert my dildo from gasoline to solar power.
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cruft posted:Could someone explain to me what all this poo poo is? I don't recognize any of it. It's a picture of more money than sense.
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Okay so it's not just me being dense. I see a bunch of 3.5mm TS connectors with what looks like a big octagon on the other end, which clamps to a cable maybe? Maybe they're hall effect sensors? Or maybe something to detect RF emitted from an AC wire? On the box there are two 3.5mm jacks. I also see what looks like a 75 ohm coax connector, commonly used to carry cable TV or other RF. And a single thin wire/cable coming out. Maybe it's because of the time change but I'm unable to put these together in a meaningful way. All I've got is that it's an FM radio that outputs to two independent speakers which clamp to something. And a ton of spare speakers. Wait, that's an antenna! That must be what the coax connector is for. So... WiFi probably? This is some sort of remote sensor that detects current and sends the readings out over WiFi? cruft fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Nov 5, 2023 |
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Nov 5, 2023 16:37
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drat, that's exactly what it is. This is a smart home energy monitor. You clamp each of those sensors over the hot wire in your breaker box (there are more 3.5mm jacks on the side of the main unit) and it measures each circuit in your breaker box somehow, then broadcasts that to (I assume) their cloud servers over your home WiFi.
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Yes that kit involves 3O installing all that junk in a crowded breaker box Which is *** completely unnecessary *** to determine whether they can handle an evse
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Infinotize posted:Yes that kit involves 3O installing all that junk in a crowded breaker box Especially when a halfway-competent electrician can look at the breaker box (or a photo of it) and determine in about 15 seconds whether it's suitable for an EVSE.
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It doesn’t require installing all of the things. The biggest clamp goes over the cables that connect from the utility pole. Hooking that big clamp and the box up (which I think requires a line or two to the neutral bus bar) will give exact wattage consumption. Then they just have to turn everything on in the house simultaneously to see what the peak power consumption is. Or they could just use this online load calculator which will give a pretty good estimate of what the NEC would calculate to be adequate, which is what matters if an inspector has to review the work. https://ask-the-electrician.com/residential-electrical-load-calculation.html#beginAdv
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Three Olives posted:Goddamit. Whats up with the ash tray full of moss
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WhiteHowler posted:Especially when a halfway-competent electrician can look at the breaker box (or a photo of it) and determine in about 15 seconds whether it's suitable for an EVSE. You can’t really do a load calculation from looking at a breaker box because the fuse amp limits will probably sum to 2x or 3x the capacity of the main breaker. And even a small main breaker could support an EVSE, for example, if the house is up North and uses gas appliances for everything and has no (or a small) central A/C.
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bird with big dick posted:I’m glad I’m not the only one. To me it kinda looks like the kit I bought on AliExpress to convert my dildo from gasoline to solar power.
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Jesus, of course I hired an electrician, who has already looked it, there has never been a problem in my life where the solution isn't pay someone else to deal with it. ~Trust but verify~ My joke was getting a discount Chinese charger to going whole hog into Emporia.
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Three Olives posted:Jesus, of course, I hired an electrician who has already looked into it; there has never been a problem in my life where the solution isn't to pay someone else to deal with it. ~Trust but verify~ Please post pictures of the charger and write a quick review. Smart home automation is quite interesting!
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Yeah, I'm also interested in what this thing actually does. The manual keeps calling them audio jacks, so I presume those are actually microphones you clamp on to the wire, which are driven by the magnetic field generated by AC, and it's just sampling amplitude as a way of measuring current. That would allow you to see how many amps are going out on each circuit, and then you can calculate watts per circuit, which is interesting I guess. I'm not sure I would care enough to pay money for this, but please do Let us know what you think of it!
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Also please try plugging a walkman into it and playing a Def Leppard tape to see how many amps it reads.
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cruft posted:Yeah, I'm also interested in what this thing actually does. The manual keeps calling them audio jacks, so I presume those are actually microphones you clamp on to the wire, which are driven by the magnetic field generated by AC, and it's just sampling amplitude as a way of measuring current. That would allow you to see how many amps are going out on each circuit, and then you can calculate watts per circuit, which is interesting I guess. There are a bunch of different sensor types it could be, but they all basically do the same thing via different methods. Current flowing through a wire produces a magnetic field which you can measure to tell how much current is flowing. It all boils down to the stronger the magnetic field; the more current is flowing. The 3.5mm jack is just a convenient connector that is also often used for low power audio applications. :: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_clamp Indiana_Krom fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Nov 5, 2023 |
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How has this thread been giving electrical advice when no one even knows what a clamp ammeter is. It's like watching a mechanic trying to figure out a screwdriver.
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Jymmybob posted:How has this thread been giving electrical advice when no one even knows what a clamp ammeter is. It's like watching a mechanic trying to figure out a screwdriver. Some of us knows and are just enjoying the spectacle 
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cruft posted:Could someone explain to me what all this poo poo is? I don't recognize any of it. All those white clasp connectors go around each of the hot lines coming from your breakers. They do indeed hook up to the base unit via a 3.5mm audio jack, presumably because the signal they get is analog anyways. Each clasp measures the total amperage being pulled per circuit so you can get a nice display of where your power is going. Here’s what mine looks like:  You’ll notice it doesn’t add up to 100%, that’s because I don’t have my ev charger monitored by it, since it’s an emporia charger it is in the app separately. Also I hosed I’m choosing which circuits to monitor and missed a couple high load ones, but am too lazy to fix it right now.
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 Gonna go ahead and answer the questions ahead of time: Yes, that is a midcentury modern bowl full of moss, which is a currently a common decorating accessory. Yes I have a giant mini fridge in my dining room, our 4 door fridge in our kitchen broke and it took over a month to get fixed on Friday because of parts, it will be moving into our garage shortly. No I don't like the rug, it was cheap and purchased because we were afraid our two new kittens would destroy it. No I don't love the furniture, my husband's ex picked it out and it's, fine, the chairs will be reupholstered as soon as I can find a textile that works, probably a Diane Von Furstenberg pattern and color that you will also hate. The elephant is not an example of bad random artwork picked up, one time when I was on safari in an open top Land Cruiser a friend of mine took the photo thinking it was a mock charge which is quite common. It wasn't, the elephant attacked us, put our car over a tree, ripping the axle out and I almost died, It has sentimental value but does need to be reframed. The cat is named Pushpin and yes, she has an AirTag. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Nov 5, 2023 |
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How well does that Roomba work with the transition between hardwood and rug? Our main floor is mostly hardwood but by area most of the space is covered with rugs and I'm not sure how a roomba would handle that.
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3O do you ever consider why you might be forced to preemptively defend your extremely weird choices
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Jymmybob posted:How has this thread been giving electrical advice when no one even knows what a clamp ammeter is. It's like watching a mechanic trying to figure out a screwdriver. Same way someone might give computer advice without knowing what an SR flip flop is.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:3O do you ever consider why you might be forced to preemptively defend your extremely weird choices Posters like 3O keep this place from being a boring monoculture. I think your room, and your cat, look cute. 
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FISHMANPET posted:How well does that Roomba work with the transition between hardwood and rug? Our main floor is mostly hardwood but by area most of the space is covered with rugs and I'm not sure how a roomba would handle that. Roomba j7+ Combo, which has very recently been superseded by the Roomba j9+ Combo which I would buy had it existed when I bought the one we have. It is amazing, buy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD8p3gGo_NA KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:3O do you ever consider why you might be forced to preemptively defend your extremely weird choices bird with big dick posted:Whats up with the ash tray full of moss Three Olives fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Nov 5, 2023 |
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just tell people the moss is weed
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taqueso posted:just tell people the moss is weed smoking ditch weed in 2023 is more embarrassing than having a bowl of crusty moss
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bird with big dick posted:Whats up with the ash tray full of moss Inviting 3O to post more about themselves should be a bannable offense imo
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bobfather posted:It doesn’t require installing all of the things. The biggest clamp goes over the cables that connect from the utility pole. Hooking that big clamp and the box up (which I think requires a line or two to the neutral bus bar) will give exact wattage consumption. Then they just have to turn everything on in the house simultaneously to see what the peak power consumption is. It'd be really cool if some idiot had literally already done that for them in the thread. Three Olives posted:
I like that rug quite a bit, and the cat.
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Keep the rug, remove the cat
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Silly Burrito posted:remove the cat 
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