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mystes posted:If there's a situation where there are no cars, but you don't have a signal, and by the time you get a signal there may be cars, I can definitely see it being safer to just cross, but trying to compare numbers for waiting for a signal vs not in general just seems silly because there are lots of places where the road is wide enough and busy enough that you're never going to be able to cross safely without a signal, so just having to worry about cars turning right on red is an improvement. That's true. I was thinking of narrower roads (like one lane in each direction), but there are definitely roads that are not safe to cross without the walk signal, and even then...
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This may be my European sensibilities talking, but I feel like only like a tenth of drivers will actually ignore red lights and not look at pedestrians. Which is still bad odds, but not certain death.
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Smythe posted:I can cross the street easily prove it
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The safest way to cross the street is to hail a vehicle (make sure to use Lyft, Uber is problematic) and direct the driver to drop you off on the other side. This is the only option with a 100% survival rate. Don't forget to tip generously!
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Steen71 posted:Yeah, those stupid Dutch and their lowest number of fatalities per cycled kilometer. What tools. What utter maroons. People give Americans a hard time for not buckling their seatbelts, but the American motorist death rate is even lower than the Dutch cyclist death rate. We’re closing the thread at midnight.
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FlutieFlake posted:Are there any data about whether it is safer to cross during the "walk" signal or to carefully look for an opening in car traffic and cross without regard for the signal? Obviously depends a lot on the intersection and the timing of the walk lights. In a case where there's a shitload of turning traffic and the walk sign is only on when turning traffic has green, then there's really no "safe" time to ever cross that intersection. The Boston area has a lot of intersections that stop all traffic for the walk signs and I appreciate that.
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speng31b posted:prove it sorry id post a video as proof but the kiwifarms / fyad doxxers are watching my every move. stay safe out there....
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they did close most of the underground tunnel crossings (usually for schools) around here kuz crackheads and bums or w/e had mega colonized them. they were fenced off for years but over the last while they been filling them in with concrete. sad to see the cool tunnels go. would be better to improve our society rather than literally pouring concrete over the symptoms but, well...
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Can't wait till they implement all this poo poo and it doesn't make a dent. What then? We're cruising towards criminalizing walking even harder lmao
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That article completely neglects to mention that 2010, when pedestrian deaths started ticking back up, is also around when the smartphone became ubiquitous and when trucks started getting so big you couldn’t see a child in front of them
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children need to get bigger faster so they can see into the truck drivers windows to tell if they are on their cell phones or if it is safe to cross
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:That article completely neglects to mention that 2010, when pedestrian deaths started ticking back up, is also around when the smartphone became ubiquitous and when trucks started getting so big you couldn’t see a child in front of them expected way better from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette .... do better
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Smythe posted:I can cross the street easily I'm crossing the street right now
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ArmedZombie posted:I'm crossing the street right now hope you remembered to maintain eye contact
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speng31b posted:hope you remembered to maintain eye contact
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I crossed dozens of streets safely today, all I had to do was bare my oversized incisors and hiss to make turning vehicles backed off.
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I wait at lights and go out of my way to crosswalks even when there's nobody around and it's nighttime. lowkey kanty vibes.
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https://twitter.com/josiahhughes/status/1721156675443257564
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simply open carry and point the gun barrel at the drivers while crossing, op
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Smythe posted:they did close most of the underground tunnel crossings (usually for schools) around here kuz crackheads and bums or w/e had mega colonized them. they were fenced off for years but over the last while they been filling them in with concrete. sad to see the cool tunnels go. would be better to improve our society rather than literally pouring concrete over the symptoms but, well... then i realized that its for those reasons
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if we had tunnels then hamas would take over the country
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speng31b posted:hope you remembered to maintain eye contact i eye contact each driver and give them all the triple finger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz48TpZONG0
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Xaris posted:one of the more 'holy poo poo you can do that??!?!" experiences i had was visitting paris and crossing all the major streets underneath them through tunnels. gamechanger, i was like why the gently caress doesn't america do this chicago does this under lake shore drive
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Xaris posted:one of the more 'holy poo poo you can do that??!?!" experiences i had was visitting paris and crossing all the major streets underneath them through tunnels. gamechanger, i was like why the gently caress doesn't america do this this is the central plot point in irreversible
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There's a ridiculous stroad with a two-stage crossing next to where I live and yeah it's much faster to dip down into the subway station and come back up on the other side.
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Peanut President posted:chicago does this under lake shore drive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMNui0s0s4c
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mystes posted:If there's a situation where there are no cars, but you don't have a signal, and by the time you get a signal there may be cars, I can definitely see it being safer to just cross, but trying to compare numbers for waiting for a signal vs not in general just seems silly because there are lots of places where the road is wide enough and busy enough that you're never going to be able to cross safely without a signal, so just having to worry about cars turning right on red is an improvement. gently caress right on red, I've come close to being hit by cars turning right on green, primarily because we don't believe in leading pedestrian intervals in the US.
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I find that it’s often safest to just stay the gently caress away from the intersection and cross during a gap in cars
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happy daylight savings day everyone. enjoy your extra hour of night driving everyday. 
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Ham Equity posted:gently caress right on red, I've come close to being hit by cars turning right on green, primarily because we don't believe in leading pedestrian intervals in the US. left on red is where it's at... especially in WA quote:Two Situations in Which a Left Turn on Red Is Appropriate
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mawarannahr posted:left on red is where it's at... especially in WA I do this one onto freeway onramps and my passengers hate it, it's ftw Ham Equity posted:gently caress right on red, I've come close to being hit by cars turning right on green, primarily because we don't believe in leading pedestrian intervals in the US. seattle and east seattle have been switching signals to that
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There shouldn't be right on red and it's also insane for signals to give cars a green light at the same time as pedestrians are crossing at all without having a red turn arrow or whatever (not just leading pedestrian intervals) But I guess to work well that would involve slightly upgrading us traffic signals so they can actually detect pedestrians like in other countries so it's completely impossible in the us
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mystes posted:But I guess to work well that would involve slightly upgrading us traffic signals so they can actually detect pedestrians like in other countries so it's completely impossible in the us
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:Everything goes back to that GBS death bridge thread. The problem is clear, the solution is clear, the solution is simple and easy as gently caress. It just can’t be solved, because in the 21st century USA, hard things are unthinkable, and easy things are impossible. I prescribe you thirty thousand dollars of media training.
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I just assume every car with an operator in it is trying to actively kill me at all moments and act accordingly.
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https://amp.abc.net.au/article/103067428 drat, cars ftw
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pedestrian underpasses (and also overpasses) are car-brained nonsense. You force people to take stairs (and/or invest thousands in elevators and other associated infrastructure) just so cars don't have to stop at an at-grade crosswalk
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gradenko_2000 posted:pedestrian underpasses (and also overpasses) are car-brained nonsense. You force people to take stairs (and/or invest thousands in elevators and other associated infrastructure) just so cars don't have to stop at an at-grade crosswalk
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