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wesleywillis posted:First double post in possibly ever... I checked, you have three double posts and two shameful doubleposts (by your own classification) 
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Ruflux posted:They got rid of the wiper stalk to make way for the gear selector and combined the wiper controls with the turn signal stalk so there was no room left. You might be wondering, well, why don’t they just go back to having the controls on the lefthand side of the dash like older Volvos and the answer is that costs multiple cents more than copying Tesla and putting everything in the stupid loving tablet The S60 also has a wiper stalk and a touchscreen, with the environmental controls staying fixed to the bottom edge, so they are always available. Honestly, it is the least annoying touchscreen I've ever used.
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Nov 8, 2023 01:51
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Car controls and interfaces were perfected with the Subaru XT, I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy that.
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Nov 8, 2023 06:08
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Number_6 posted:Car controls and interfaces were perfected with the Subaru XT, I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy that. I like Toyota's 2nd gen Tundra solution: just add more stalks. Depending on configuration, you could have up to four: shifter, lights, wipers, and cruise control.
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Nov 8, 2023 06:14
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Number_6 posted:Car controls and interfaces were perfected with the Subaru XT, I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy that. That steering wheel is giving off intense 80s vibes and i love it but you are wrong - it doesn't have the One True AC control scheme 
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Nov 8, 2023 06:21
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Number_6 posted:Car controls and interfaces were perfected with the Subaru XT, I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy that. yes please
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Nov 8, 2023 06:43
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Can we stop pretending autonomous vehicles are going to be a thing now? And can we stop pretending anyone with a product to sell isn't lying through their teeth? Lmao that so many big important tech things turn out to just be mechanical turks all the way down.
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Nov 8, 2023 08:26
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Lmao that so many big important tech things turn out to just be mechanical turks all the way down. I thought mechanical turk was a reference to a time traveling book I liked but no, a wiki dive came up with something that was actually much cooler. Unlike Cruize
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Nov 8, 2023 08:42
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The only thing stupider than believing in self driving cars is believing your tesla is going to selfdrive uber over night while you sleep and make you rich.
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Nov 8, 2023 09:07
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Ether Frenzy posted:The only thing stupider than believing in self driving cars is believing your tesla is going to selfdrive uber over night while you sleep and make you rich. There is a healthy overlap between people who believe that and people buying into speculative schemes like nfts and crypto. In my experience at least.
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Nov 8, 2023 13:00
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Number_6 posted:Car controls and interfaces were perfected with the Subaru XT, I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy that.
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Nov 8, 2023 13:04
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Nitrox posted:There is a healthy overlap between people who believe that and people buying into speculative schemes like nfts and crypto. In my experience at least. You only say that because Elon Musk could control the price of crypto with his tweets for a while
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Nov 8, 2023 14:28
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuFelNI2c08quote:
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Nov 8, 2023 14:45
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I thought Elon said it could work like a boat
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Nov 8, 2023 14:48
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There's a disturbing number of people who claim to be trapped inside of their Teslas when the fire starts, even if there's no crash or anything to block the doors
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Nov 8, 2023 14:58
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The Door Frame posted:There's a disturbing number of people who claim to be trapped inside of their Teslas when the fire starts, even if there's no crash or anything to block the doors That's because getting out of a Tesla without power ranges from difficult to impossible depending on which vehicle and where you're sitting.  coupedeville posted:That steering wheel is giving off intense 80s vibes and i love it but you are wrong - it doesn't have the One True AC control scheme I assume by One True AC control scheme you mean having separate buttons for windshield, face, and feet vents which can be toggled in any desired combination like the Volvo S60R? Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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Nov 8, 2023 16:21
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How the hell is "YOU CAN'T" an acceptable answer for the regulatory bodies? You need a manual release in the trunk in case someone gets stuck in there, I just can't believe this is actually acceptable.
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Nov 8, 2023 16:45
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Jesus loving christ. How is this street legal? I know, I know, our government is thoroughly bought and paid for
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:That's because getting out of a Tesla without power ranges from difficult to impossible depending on which vehicle and where you're sitting. That's why you put your baby seat in the front passenger side, in case you get into an accident and need to make sure your child is safe
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Nov 8, 2023 16:49
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The Door Frame posted:That's why you put your baby seat in the front passenger side, in case you get into an accident and need to make sure your child is safe And put the slightly older kids in the back!
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Nov 8, 2023 16:51
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I assume by One True AC control scheme you mean having separate buttons for windshield, face, and feet vents which can be toggled in any desired combination like the Volvo S60R? leave it to the swedes to not know how the three seashells work 
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Nov 8, 2023 17:26
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Number_6 posted:Car controls and interfaces were perfected with the Subaru XT, I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy that. 
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Nov 8, 2023 17:40
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:That's because getting out of a Tesla without power ranges from difficult to impossible depending on which vehicle and where you're sitting. I think about this graphic every time i walk past a 3 with a child seat in back.
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Nov 8, 2023 18:49
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With small children you'd usually have the back doors locked anyway
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Nov 8, 2023 18:57
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:That's because getting out of a Tesla without power ranges from difficult to impossible depending on which vehicle and where you're sitting. https://i.imgur.com/wFeli1f.mp4
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Nov 8, 2023 19:04
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https://jalopnik.com/dealer-wants-253-190-over-sticker-for-a-dodge-challeng-1851003766?utm_source=YPL I hope this dealership goes out of business
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Nov 8, 2023 21:44
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Bajaha posted:How the hell is "YOU CAN'T" an acceptable answer for the regulatory bodies? You need a manual release in the trunk in case someone gets stuck in there, I just can't believe this is actually acceptable. Hell yeah captured regulations own
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Nov 8, 2023 21:57
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Applebees Appetizer posted:https://jalopnik.com/dealer-wants-253-190-over-sticker-for-a-dodge-challeng-1851003766?utm_source=YPL lmao i'm going to silver spring this evening, i can throw a rock through their window on the way home.
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Nov 8, 2023 22:04
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Looks just as flammable as any other turd dodge, but I bet the dealer only has it insured for msrp Anyway be the change you want to see in the world
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Nov 8, 2023 22:24
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Bajaha posted:How the hell is "YOU CAN'T" an acceptable answer for the regulatory bodies? You need a manual release in the trunk in case someone gets stuck in there, I just can't believe this is actually acceptable. It may be simply that in the past there has been cases that have shown the need for the trunk release and there hasn't been one for rear doors. The regulators probably didn't even imagine some one would build a car that doesn't have simple lever at the rear doors.
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Nov 8, 2023 23:58
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Bajaha posted:How the hell is "YOU CAN'T" an acceptable answer for the regulatory bodies? You need a manual release in the trunk in case someone gets stuck in there, I just can't believe this is actually acceptable. That's not how regulation works. The NHTSA doesn't have a list of specific design points, just guidelines for how safe cars need to be. It's up to the manufacturers to meet them in whatever way they want. The NHTSA gets involved only when the manufacturer's solution is shown not to be adequate or acceptable. Thus far, there has not been evidence presented that exiting a Tesla's rear seat is a problem. Thus, no regulatory involvement.
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Nov 9, 2023 00:03
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Love to live in a nation state which requires human sacrifice as a pretext to intervene in business affairs.
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I have to open the door so my mother in law can exit my German car because we have child door locks enabled and always leave them on because toddler. Apparently we've decided rear passenger doors not opening is acceptable
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Nov 9, 2023 00:48
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Hadlock posted:I have to open the door so my mother in law can exit my German car because we have child door locks enabled and always leave them on because toddler. Apparently we've decided rear passenger doors not opening is acceptable Yeah you're apparently OK with leaving your mother in law locked in a burning car. Deteriorata posted:That's not how regulation works. The NHTSA doesn't have a list of specific design points, just guidelines for how safe cars need to be. It's up to the manufacturers to meet them in whatever way they want.
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Hadlock posted:I have to open the door so my mother in law can exit my German car because we have child door locks enabled and always leave them on because toddler. Apparently we've decided rear passenger doors not opening is acceptable That's... actually a fair point. What we did was leave the child door locks on and the power windows unlocked. At the touch of a button, you can lock the windows to prevent fuckery, but disengaging the child locks requires opening the door. Any adult (or person not in a child seat or booster) can reach around as long as the windows work. Then again, I don't get in a car without a way to bust a window out.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:14
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The difference is that with the Tesla since the door handles are retracted electrically you cannot open it from the outside at all if there is no 12v power.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:19
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Isn't the problem that the Tesla handles are electronic, not mechanical, and they hide away when "not in use"? So even if someone wants to let you out, you're out of luck if the electrical system is down? Edit: ^^^see!^^^
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Nov 9, 2023 02:21
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I dunno about the model S but on my BILs model Y you just push in on the external door handle on one side, and the other pops out and you pull on it like you'd expect to
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The 3 and Y don't have electrically presenting door handles, but they have electrical door latches, so same problem.
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Deteriorata posted:Thus far, there has not been evidence presented that exiting a Tesla's rear seat is a problem. Thus, no regulatory involvement. The evidence in question being corpses.
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