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You can come over to my house
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# ? May 21, 2024 18:44 |
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I'm moving into a place where I can't have a dedicated home theater. I am also really against having a giant TV in the living room. I have been an OLED zealot since they came out, and was considering putting one in the living room and having a piece of art on tracks that moves out of the way to reveal it. But now I am contemplating a projector instead. How does the quality of high-end projectors these days compare to an OLED? I know I won't be getting the infinite blacks, but what about the colors? I assume I will be paying through the nose to get something that approaches OLED quality right?
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 16:10 |
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You also won't be getting the popping colors with any projector most of us would consider "affordable", and even then you're going to need controlled light to get the best out of it. In a living room application a projector is never going to be as good as an OLED. That said have you considered a Samsung "The Frame" TV? I don't know what they do differently but when in their "art" mode you could easily not notice that it's a TV at all. I've only ever seen that on those TVs and the Google Nest Display thing. They're not OLEDs of course so they're not going to be as good when actually using them as a TV but it's still going to look a lot better than a projector in a normally lit room while blending in to the decor better when not in use.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 16:35 |
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I love projectors and think they’re pretty excellent nowadays but they’re not going to pop like an OLED unless you’re spending a *lot more money You could consider putting an OLED tv on a tasteful stand (Samsung makes some for their TVs that look excellent and there are a few third party models that I also really like), either easel-style, tripod-style, or as a cart with wheels. If you have Bang and Olufsen money you could look at some of their wheeled/freestanding OLED TVs. Even something like a modern AV cart of the sort a school/university/office might have can look fine in the right decor space if you want a convenient and relatively secure way to have a big TV that you can tuck into a corner and/or roll out.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 16:48 |
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wolrah posted:That said have you considered a Samsung "The Frame" TV? Excellent for what they are. We also got a 65" 'Serif' as a portable display and it's great, kind of looks like an art deco 60's retrofuture television. The strange plastic shell on it is useful for resting presentation laptops and gear on top of. Very odd lineup of TV's but cool they exist.
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# ? Nov 10, 2023 07:43 |
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So I'm not sure but I'm thinking it might be time to replace the bulb in my TH685. I noticed it seems a little more dim than usual? Even in the dark. Maybe it's just the games I'm playing I dunno but I noticed it on a show, too the other day, though maybe that just started making me pay more attention. According to the projector My light usage time is about 2000 hours, and something called "Equivalent Lamp Hour" is 7700 hours. Either way, it doesn't seem too expensive so I thought why not. I went to go look up replacement bulbs online. I found what I think is the original bulb. 650RMB is like 95 US dollars But when I was looking I found a bunch of other bulbs that say they work with the TH685 but are somewhat cheaper Or much cheaper I don't know how much it matters though. Do I absolutely not want to get the cheaper bulbs? Will they just likely be overall worse? Or, would I be a sucker to be buying official, more expensive, replacement bulbs? For all I even know maybe the non-original bulbs are even better, I dunno, newer light technology?
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 06:30 |
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Any new mid-range 4K low latency projectors planned for 2024? My BenQ W1080ST's HDMI port is on the fritz.
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 06:57 |
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I'm looking for a 4k projector for a room with ambient light
Ones I'm looking at
Any recommendations?
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# ? Mar 20, 2024 23:10 |
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Ok I purchased an Epson 5050UB (TW8400) as for my price range it's apparently the best
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 21:37 |
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N.Z.'s Champion posted:Ok I purchased an Epson 5050UB (TW8400) as for my price range it's apparently the best was this based on digging around on AVSForums or similar? Asking because I hope to be in the same boat in a couple months, upgrading from a BenQ HT2050 I got in 2016. At that time the advice from AVSForum etc was to buy that specific thing if you weren't trying to spend > $5000 USD, which I was not (2050 was $800ish in 2016). I'd like to go to 4k on something a bit brighter and it seems like it's finally affordable to do that. I'd rather spend closer to 2k than 3k but the last one has run 7 years (w/1 bulb replacement); if I can get the same or better here that seems fine given how much media (mostly other) people in this house seem to consume. e: digging into this; that's a 4Ke projector, so smack dab between 1080 and true 4k. The LS12000 gets there at $5000 US; I'll have to ponder this. I looked into it a couple years ago and at that point true 4k looked like a ~10k proposition, so prices have come down more than half in that time frame, considering inflation. Maybe if I wait another year or two they will do that again As long as the current thing works, it is very much a want and not a need. I wish I could look at the same image projected on the same screen, at 4Ke vs 4k. I think it's entirely possible that even with my glasses on I can't tell the difference on a 12' screen from 17' away. Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Apr 27, 2024 |
# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:48 |
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I got advice from reddit (😞) https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater/comments/1bjsg2t/ceiling_movie_projector_recommendations_for_3k/
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 02:01 |
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yeah that all looks reasonable, also, looking into this more deeply I am quite convinced true 4k would be substantial overkill in the space I'm in. At 90' - 100' lots of people actually prefer TVs, but, like you, I prefer to not have a giant monolith of a screen that blocks windows, and even if it wasn't blocking windows, I've never liked the silent dominance that an unpowered TV screen embodies a whole room with, since it tends to be central. It's fine if you have a dedicated TV space, but for living rooms tends to lead to layouts where every seat faces the screen and it's weird and awkward to hang out in the space with the screen off. We have chairs every which way and when the screen is up, you barely notice the projector; in fact someone who was recently at our house for the first time told me that they had scratched their head a bit at the obvious 7.1 setup with a complete lack of display, until they looked up and saw the projector. When I get a new projector I am also going to re-mount the arm that holds it, on a hinge, such that it can be folded flat against the wall when not in use. I saw comments in your thread or another about the 5050UB and some people saying "possibly not bright enough for daylight use without curtains", because it's ~25% brighter than the projector we have now, which gets frequent use in bright daylight. Granted, putting some shades in that room has been a long term goal for a while (needs a robotic thing that's like 50' wide which then needs to be mounted 12-14' up a wall, so, quite a project), and I might have prioritized that higher if I myself used the screen much in daylight, but the kids seem to absolutely not give a gently caress and are able to see it just fine. e: also in 2024 reddit seems likely to be as good/better as AVSForum; AVSForum has ditched their SA-esque oldschool forum look for some vaguely web 2.0-looking garbage, but, also, that projector is quite well reviewed there. Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Cabbages and Kings posted:was this based on digging around on AVSForums or similar? Asking because I hope to be in the same boat in a couple months, upgrading from a BenQ HT2050 I got in 2016. At that time the advice from AVSForum etc was to buy that specific thing if you weren't trying to spend > $5000 USD, which I was not (2050 was $800ish in 2016). I'd like to go to 4k on something a bit brighter and it seems like it's finally affordable to do that. Don’t sleep on the LS11000. I have it because it was impossible for me to find a 12000 at the time. I love it and don’t have any regrets about not getting the 12000.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 19:26 |
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I was in a similar boat a month ago upgrading from a BenQ W2000 ( which, and I may be wrong, is the HT2050 in different territories. Or at least very similar). Projecting to a 120" fixed frame in a somewhat light controlled living room space. The fans in the old girl were giving up and I wanted to head into the 4K space. This'll be my experience from going in right at the low end of the 4K market, ended up buying a BenQ W2710i ( HT3550 in other territories). Set me back $2600AUD which I think was a pretty excellent price. If brightness is an issue, I would suggest stretching to the Epsons. I had played with the BenQ laser 4K's around the same price point (X300i) and while they can go brighter, the contrast was poor and I could see a fair amount of 'speckling' from the laser light source. Of note with this generation of BenQ gear, they'll list HDMI 2.0 support on all models, but there are firmware updates available to give you full HDMI 2.1 support including VRR and FRL. I'm sending a 4K120hz 4:4:4 VRR signal to mine with no problems. At 120", 4Ke is great. Obviously a noticeable jump from the older 1080p projector, very good image (after turning sharpening bullshit off... why does BenQ crank that stuff by default...). The downsides to buying in at the low end of the 4K market are fairly apparent though. When running HDR content this projector gets fairly loud and even in low lumen SDR modes the fan noise is much higher than my older W2000. You will also notice noise from the mechanical dynamic iris when running HDR content. It can be minimised a bit (stock settings are aggressive), but you can hear it going if the projector is close to your seating position, such as ceiling above for me. I don't regret purchasing at the low end, but certainly if budgets are not too tight I would probably go for the LS11000/12000. For me, I wanted to replace a lot of my speakers to finally do a proper Atmos setup so saved a bit on the projector. It's a massive difference stepping up to a 4K/4Ke modern projector that supports HDR content. I didn't expect there to be such a big jump, the 1080p image from my older projector was very good already.
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# ? May 1, 2024 05:41 |
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SCheeseman posted:Any new mid-range 4K low latency projectors planned for 2024? My BenQ W1080ST's HDMI port is on the fritz. Now it's got a stuck (white) pixel near the center of the chip. BenQ TK700STi seems to be the most fitting replacement? Kind of a modest upgrade for something that costs 3 times as much as what I paid for the projector I have now, 10 years down the track. But laser costs too much and I want low latency, so I don't think I have many other choices.
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# ? May 21, 2024 18:44 |
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SCheeseman posted:Now it's got a stuck (white) pixel near the center of the chip. I've got a Benq HT2050 and am eyeballing an Epson 4ke projector that costs $3k USD as a replacement this year. It's not true 4k but I am not convinced that my mid-40s visual system will notice, 16' from a 120" screen. It's also about 25% brighter than the 2050
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