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What even is the argument for a neutral site World Series?
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:34 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 02:37 |
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Diamondbacks are the last team without a ROTY winner...until Monday!
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:34 |
mcmagic posted:That is a list of what every team in baseball wants in a trade return lol. You have no idea what the market for him or what the actual trade is going to look like. Nobody knows anything beyond what we as fans see/hear. The Padres I think most people would agree are not that far away from being competitive, so logically it makes sense to assume they would want MLB ready talent if they were going to trade away a key MLB talent player. So when we are talking about possible trades for Soto we are talking about evaluating what both teams goals for 2024 might be and then what makes sense/benefits both sides. Yankees don't have a lot of MLB ready talent they can trade away so now we are talking more about a prospect trade, which is possible but doesn't seem like it fits the Padres immediate plans assuming they will try to compete in 2024.
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mcmagic posted:Anyone who thinks a neutral site WS is a good idea should be barred from baseball for life.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:35 |
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Very well, Scott Boras is barred for life from baseball.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:36 |
zoux posted:Very well, Scott Boras is barred for life from baseball. Why is Boras even advocating for that? I get that he's always trying to get the most for his clients but who does that benefit?
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:37 |
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zoux posted:I'm gonna take a scorching hot position that Shohei Ohtani has thrown his last MLB pitch. It's probably more likely he'll be a reliever or a limited starter.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:37 |
bunch off people doubting Ohtani ITT, shameful
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:38 |
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If Clevinger and Taillon can come back and be decent starters, Ohtani can come back and be a a very good starter.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:39 |
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Poque posted:batters also play during innings... Do they? Batting stats are always listed in terms of ABs/PAs or games played. MLB's fielding stats are the only place they have innings and they list DHs as zero there. I guess I should send it in to Effectively Wild so they can really dig into the pedantry
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:39 |
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live with fruit posted:What even is the argument for a neutral site World Series? 1. Choosing a site with optimal weather for that time of year 2. Building up hotels/facilities/bullshit ahead of time for more festivities/events 3. Easier to plan for media/fans/etc. I think it's dumb and if baseball wants teams in Chicago/Canada/Wisconsin/Michigan/New England, you loving deal with your choice to have the playoffs go into November
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:40 |
Red posted:It's probably more likely he'll be a reliever or a limited starter. I think he could be a great mid-reliever, he's got enough pitch variety to get through the order more than once. He's only going to accept being a starter, though. At least until his body forces him to stop.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:41 |
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live with fruit posted:If Clevinger and Taillon can come back and be decent starters, Ohtani can come back and be a a very good starter. It's not that he won't have the ability, it's that they won't let him do it. IMO
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:41 |
Red posted:1. Choosing a site with optimal weather for that time of year None of those teams would struggle to sell out if they make the WS, even if it's 20 degrees out.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:42 |
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Red posted:3. Easier to plan for media/fans/etc. General fans, right? I'd assume that if they announce that the World Series is in Anaheim next year (choosing a city whose team definitely won't make it), everyone will gobble up tickets immediately and fans of the random team that came out of no where to make the World Series will have to pick through what's left.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:43 |
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Popete posted:None of those teams would struggle to sell out if they make the WS, even if it's 20 degrees out. No, not at all. Doesn't Cleveland get brutal in the winter?
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zoux posted:It's not that he won't have the ability, it's that they won't let him do it. IMO If they're paying him $500 million, they're going to make him try.
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live with fruit posted:General fans, right? I'd assume that if they announce that the World Series is in Anaheim next year (choosing a city whose team definitely won't make it), everyone will gobble up tickets immediately and fans of the random team that came out of no where to make the World Series will have to pick through what's left. You'd have 50-60,000 Marlins Men at each game, and there'd be no noise.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:44 |
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Popete posted:bunch off people doubting Ohtani ITT, shameful
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:45 |
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live with fruit posted:If they're paying him $500 million, they're going to make him try. He's going to get paid more, and that's exactly why they won't let him. Also after Strasburg, who's going to underwrite that contract if he's pitching and hitting?
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:47 |
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zoux posted:He's going to get paid more, and that's exactly why they won't let him. Also after Strasburg, who's going to underwrite that contract if he's pitching and hitting? Doesn't Strasburg have nerve damage? That seems like a worst case scenario that Ohtani has no signs of being at risk of.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:48 |
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You don’t give him $500M if you think he’s thrown his last pitch
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:48 |
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Nodoze posted:
RBIs are very good and important and I want every player in the lineup to want as many of them as possible! It's insane that this argument gets rehashed every time a player makes the incredibly reasonable and correct statement that they care about RBI! The problem is if an FO thinks it's a qualitative stat when evaluating a player, it's not at all a problem if a player wants to bat in more runs!
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:53 |
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How many times have we seen a player traded and thought "wtf how could nobody beat that offer?"
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 19:57 |
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I just had the most deranged baseball thought of my life: Brewers manager Joe Maddon.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:00 |
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R.D. Mangles posted:I just had the most deranged baseball thought of my life: Brewers manager Joe Maddon. That guy hates analytical GMs.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:04 |
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Play every WS at Coors
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:05 |
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live with fruit posted:What even is the argument for a neutral site World Series?
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:07 |
live with fruit posted:That guy hates analytical GMs. Joe Maddon to the Yankees it is!
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:09 |
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For whom? The teams that make the World Series make a ton of money off of it.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:09 |
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only play a neutral site world series if the Phillies are in it
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:10 |
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R.D. Mangles posted:only play a neutral site world series if the Phillies are in it The entire point of a neutral site world super bowl is to create a neutral environment due to weather (plus party time money and all NFL stadiums are the same) Imagine a Yankees Dodgers world series in Miami lol
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:15 |
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Popete posted:I don't really see the Cubs going for a 1 year Soto rental. They're already pretty set in the outfield, I suppose there is a gap in CF if PCA isn't making the team out of Spring Training but Soto doesn't really help there. I know a certain free agent who would be very good in CF or 1B if PCA or Mervis aren't making the team out of spring training.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:16 |
Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:The entire point of a neutral site world super bowl is to create a neutral environment due to weather (plus party time money and all NFL stadiums are the same) Weather sure but isn't there also a pretty big home field advantage for a single NFL game too? More so than in baseball.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:16 |
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Popete posted:Weather sure but isn't there also a pretty big home field advantage for a single NFL game too? More so than in baseball. Ya that too.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:17 |
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Whoever signs Bellinger should also sign Snell so they can corner the market on guys who really seem like pot heads.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:17 |
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live with fruit posted:For whom? The teams that make the World Series make a ton of money off of it. No one knows until a few days before the World Series begins which two teams are going to be in it, so no one cares about how much money those two teams will make. The owners' interest is in simply maximizing the amount of money made off the enterprise. More money will be made overall if the games are in L.A. or Houston or Miami than if they're in Tampa or Baltimore or Minneapolis or whatever. Besides the obvious point that the league office can use World Series hosting as an incentive or bribe to suit their purposes. Besides that, money comes mostly from the TV networks, and a neutral site World Series is desirable for them. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Imagine a Yankees Dodgers world series in Miami lol This would just be 7 Yankees home games. There are more Yankee fans in Florida than Marlins fans.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:19 |
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live with fruit posted:Whoever signs Bellinger should also sign Snell so they can corner the market on guys who really seem like pot heads.
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:20 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 02:37 |
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R.D. Mangles posted:only play a neutral site world series if the Phillies are in it Phillies home crowd is just too much of an advantage. They're unbeatable at home!
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# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:20 |