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Vavrek: Mar 2, 2013; I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

Dvac said something about how many database experts you had on one call who hadn't solved the meal selection problem. I've been thinking of making a little tool (or, really, just a set of lists) to determine pairwise meal selection for Three Houses. Python implements set notation, so it should be just a matter of working through various set intersections. I'll post it here when it's done.

(I'm posting this here, now, so that I actually get around to doing it.)

edit: alright, here. The meal preferences list being organized by meal rather than diner was kind of annoying and required a bit of work to get stuff reformatted. I think this works.

code:

# Three Houses Meal Planner

class Diner:
    def __init__(self, name):
        self.name = name
        self.likes = set()
        self.dislikes = set()

def main():
    full_likes = {"Saghert and Cream": ["Edelgard", "Dimitri", "Ferdinand", "Linhardt", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Ashe", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Lorenz", "Ignatz", "Lysithea", "Marianne", "Hilda", "Flayn", "Alois", "Yuri", "Constance", "Jeritza"],
"Sweet Bun Trio": ["Edelgard", "Dimitri", "Ferdinand", "Linhardt", "Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Ashe", "Sylvain", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Ingrid", "Ignatz", "Lysithea", "Marianne", "Hilda", "Flayn", "Alois", "Yuri", "Constance", "Jeritza"],
"Pheasant Roast with Berry Sauce": ["Claude", "Ferdinand", "Linhardt", "Ashe", "Sylvain", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Ingrid", "Raphael", "Lysithea", "Flayn", "Alois", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Yuri", "Constance", "Hapi", "Jeritza", "Anna"],
"Peach Sorbet": ["Edelgard", "Linhardt", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Ashe", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Lysithea", "Marianne", "Hilda", "Flayn", "Hanneman", "Alois", "Shamir", "Yuri", "Constance", "Jeritza", "Anna"],
"Beast Meat Teppanyaki": ["Claude", "Caspar", "Petra", "Felix", "Ingrid", "Raphael", "Leonie", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Pickled Rabbit Skewers": ["Claude", "Caspar", "Petra", "Felix", "Ingrid", "Raphael", "Lysithea", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Yuri", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Daphnel Stew": ["Claude", "Ferdinand", "Linhardt", "Caspar", "Petra", "Dedue", "Felix", "Ingrid", "Lorenz", "Raphael", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Manuela", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Yuri", "Balthus", "Hapi"],
"Gronder Meat Skewers": ["Claude", "Caspar", "Petra", "Felix", "Ingrid", "Raphael", "Leonie", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Jeritza"],
"Derdriu-Style Fried Pheasant": ["Claude", "Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Felix", "Ingrid", "Raphael", "Lysithea", "Hilda", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Hanneman", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Cyril", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Vegetable Pasta Salad": ["Edelgard", "Ferdinand", "Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Ashe", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Ingrid", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Seteth", "Hanneman", "Gilbert", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Constance", "Anna"],
"Onion Gratin Soup": ["Edelgard", "Dimitri", "Claude", "Ferdinand", "Linhardt", "Dorothea", "Dedue", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Lorenz", "Marianne", "Leonie", "Flayn", "Alois", "Catherine", "Yuri", "Hapi", "Jeritza"],
"Country-Style Red Turnip Plate": ["Claude", "Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Petra", "Raphael", "Hilda", "Flayn", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Shamir", "Yuri", "Hapi"],
"Vegetable Stir-Fry": ["Edelgard", "Claude", "Ferdinand", "Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Petra", "Dedue", "Annette", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Leonie", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Yuri", "Hapi"],
"Grilled Herring": ["Ferdinand", "Petra", "Dedue", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Ingrid", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Flayn", "Gilbert", "Alois", "Catherine", "Yuri", "Jeritza"],
"Fish and Bean Soup": ["Edelgard", "Linhardt", "Dedue", "Ashe", "Sylvain", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Lorenz", "Raphael", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Hilda", "Leonie", "Flayn", "Manuela", "Alois", "Cyril", "Yuri", "Hapi", "Jeritza"],
"Fruit and Herring Tart": ["Ferdinand", "Bernadetta", "Dedue", "Sylvain", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Ingrid", "Lorenz", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Flayn", "Alois", "Catherine", "Constance"],
"Fisherman�s Bounty": ["Ferdinand", "Petra", "Dedue", "Ingrid", "Raphael", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Hilda", "Leonie", "Flayn", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Alois", "Catherine", "Yuri", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Jeritza"],
"Fish Sandwich": ["Edelgard", "Ferdinand", "Petra", "Dedue", "Ashe", "Sylvain", "Ingrid", "Raphael", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Flayn", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Alois", "Catherine", "Yuri", "Hapi"],
"Two-Fish Saute": ["Hubert", "Bernadetta", "Dedue", "Felix", "Sylvain", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Lorenz", "Ignatz", "Lysithea", "Marianne", "Hilda", "Leonie", "Flayn", "Hanneman", "Manuela", "Alois", "Catherine", "Cyril", "Yuri", "Constance", "Jeritza"],
"Bourgeois Pike": ["Claude", "Ferdinand", "Bernadetta", "Dedue", "Lorenz", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Flayn", "Hanneman", "Manuela", "Alois", "Catherine", "Constance", "Anna"],
"Sauteed Jerky": ["Dimitri", "Claude", "Hubert", "Caspar", "Petra", "Dedue", "Felix", "Raphael", "Manuela", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Yuri", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Spicy Fish and Turnip Stew": ["Hubert", "Petra", "Dedue", "Felix", "Ashe", "Sylvain", "Annette", "Ingrid", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Sweet and Salty Whitefish Saute": ["Hubert", "Dedue", "Felix", "Ashe", "Sylvain", "Annette", "Ingrid", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Super-Spicy Fish Dango": ["Hubert", "Petra", "Dedue", "Felix", "Sylvain", "Ingrid", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Hanneman", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Shamir", "Balthus", "Hapi"],
"Sauteed Pheasant and Eggs": ["Edelgard", "Claude", "Hubert", "Ferdinand", "Caspar", "Felix", "Sylvain", "Raphael", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Seteth", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Constance", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Garreg Mach Meat Pie": ["Claude", "Hubert", "Linhardt", "Caspar", "Dorothea", "Felix", "Sylvain", "Lorenz", "Raphael", "Ignatz", "Hanneman", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Balthus"],
"Cheesy Verona Stew": ["Dimitri", "Claude", "Hubert", "Bernadetta", "Petra", "Sylvain", "Raphael", "Marianne", "Hilda", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Flayn", "Hanneman", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Balthus"],
"Pickled Seafood and Vegetables": ["Hubert", "Petra", "Dedue", "Annette", "Raphael", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Flayn", "Hanneman", "Gilbert", "Alois", "Catherine", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Gautier Cheese Gratin": ["Dimitri", "Claude", "Hubert", "Linhardt", "Dorothea", "Felix", "Raphael", "Hilda", "Hanneman", "Catherine", "Balthus"],
"Cabbage and Herring Stew": ["Claude", "Hubert", "Lorenz", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Leonie", "Flayn", "Hanneman", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Balthus", "Hapi", "Jeritza"],
"Small Fish Skewers": ["Hapi", "Jeritza"],
"Fried Crayfish": ["Hapi", "Jeritza", "Anna"]}

    full_dislikes = {"Saghert and Cream": ["Claude", "Hubert", "Petra", "Felix", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Shamir"],
"Sweet Bun Trio": ["Claude", "Hubert", "Petra", "Felix", "Leonie", "Manuela", "Shamir"],
"Pheasant Roast with Berry Sauce": ["Hubert", "Petra", "Hanneman", "Catherine"],
"Peach Sorbet": ["Dimitri", "Hubert", "Petra", "Felix", "Leonie", "Seteth", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Balthus"],
"Beast Meat Teppanyaki": ["Edelgard", "Hubert", "Linhardt", "Bernadetta", "Sylvain", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Lorenz", "Marianne", "Hanneman", "Jeritza"],
"Pickled Rabbit Skewers": ["Edelgard", "Hubert", "Linhardt", "Bernadetta", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Lorenz", "Marianne", "Hanneman", "Constance", "Jeritza"],
"Daphnel Stew": ["Hubert", "Mercedes", "Anna"],
"Gronder Meat Skewers": ["Edelgard", "Hubert", "Linhardt", "Bernadetta", "Mercedes", "Lorenz", "Marianne", "Hanneman"],
"Derdriu-Style Fried Pheasant": ["Hubert", "Petra", "Ashe", "Shamir"],
"Vegetable Pasta Salad": ["Hubert", "Felix", "Raphael", "Lysithea", "Balthus", "Jeritza"],
"Onion Gratin Soup": ["Caspar", "Petra", "Lysithea", "Manuela", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Constance"],
"Country-Style Red Turnip Plate": ["Felix", "Lysithea", "Manuela", "Balthus", "Anna"],
"Vegetable Stir-Fry": ["Linhardt", "Felix", "Raphael", "Lysithea", "Flayn", "Hanneman", "Alois", "Balthus", "Jeritza", "Anna"],
"Grilled Herring": ["Hubert", "Linhardt", "Caspar", "Dorothea", "Lysithea", "Shamir", "Anna"],
"Fish and Bean Soup": ["Hubert", "Caspar", "Dorothea", "Petra", "Felix", "Lysithea"],
"Fruit and Herring Tart": ["Caspar", "Dorothea", "Lysithea", "Shamir", "Hapi", "Anna"],
"Fisherman�s Bounty": ["Hubert", "Linhardt", "Dorothea", "Sylvain", "Lorenz", "Hanneman"],
"Fish Sandwich": ["Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Mercedes", "Lysithea", "Hanneman", "Balthus", "Jeritza", "Anna"],
"Two-Fish Saute": ["Caspar", "Petra", "Shamir", "Hapi"],
"Bourgeois Pike": ["Caspar", "Lysithea", "Shamir", "Yuri", "Hapi"],
"Sauteed Jerky": ["Linhardt", "Bernadetta", "Mercedes", "Lysithea", "Flayn", "Alois", "Constance", "Jeritza"],
"Spicy Fish and Turnip Stew": ["Linhardt", "Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Mercedes", "Lorenz", "Ignatz", "Lysithea", "Hanneman", "Alois", "Yuri", "Constance", "Jeritza"],
"Sweet and Salty Whitefish Saute": ["Linhardt", "Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Dorothea", "Petra", "Mercedes", "Lorenz", "Lysithea", "Hanneman", "Jeritza"],
"Super-Spicy Fish Dango": ["Caspar", "Bernadetta", "Mercedes", "Lysithea", "Flayn", "Alois", "Yuri", "Jeritza"],
"Sauteed Pheasant and Eggs": ["Linhardt", "Bernadetta", "Mercedes", "Lorenz", "Lysithea", "Flayn", "Alois", "Yuri", "Jeritza"],
"Garreg Mach Meat Pie": ["Edelgard", "Ferdinand", "Petra", "Dedue", "Mercedes", "Lysithea", "Hilda", "Flayn", "Shamir"],
"Cheesy Verona Stew": ["Ferdinand", "Caspar", "Ashe", "Lysithea", "Manuela", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Constance"],
"Pickled Seafood and Vegetables": ["Ferdinand", "Caspar", "Ingrid", "Ignatz", "Lysithea", "Hilda", "Manuela", "Cyril", "Balthus"],
"Gautier Cheese Gratin": ["Edelgard", "Ferdinand", "Caspar", "Petra", "Dedue", "Ashe", "Mercedes", "Annette", "Ignatz", "Marianne", "Flayn", "Manuela", "Shamir", "Yuri", "Constance", "Anna"],
"Cabbage and Herring Stew": ["Ferdinand", "Caspar", "Ingrid", "Lysithea", "Hilda", "Cyril", "Constance"],
"Small Fish Skewers": ["Hubert", "Linhardt", "Caspar", "Dorothea", "Petra", "Felix", "Sylvain", "Ingrid", "Lorenz", "Lysithea", "Leonie", "Hanneman", "Manuela", "Catherine", "Shamir", "Cyril"],
"Fried Crayfish": ["Claude", "Hubert", "Linhardt", "Caspar", "Dorothea", "Petra", "Felix", "Ashe", "Sylvain", "Raphael", "Lysithea", "Seteth", "Manuela", "Gilbert", "Catherine", "Shamir", "Cyril", "Balthus"]}

    all_dishes = set(full_likes.keys())

    diners = {}
    for k in full_likes:
        for name in full_likes[k]:
            if name not in diners:
                diners[name] = Diner(name)
            diners[name].likes.add(k)

    for k in full_dislikes:
        for name in full_dislikes[k]:
            if name not in diners:
                diners[name] = Diner(name)
            diners[name].dislikes.add(k)

    valid_input = False
    while not valid_input:
        first = input("Name of one character: ")
        second = input("Name of another character: ")

        if first in diners and second in diners:
            valid_input = True
        else:
            print("This will loop until the names are spelled correctly.")

    first_choices = diners[first].likes & diners[second].likes
    print(f"First choices, liked by both, are: {first_choices}")
    second_choices = (
        (diners[first].likes - diners[second].dislikes) |
        (diners[second].likes - diners[first].dislikes)
    ) - first_choices
    print(f"Second choices, liked by one and not disliked by the other, are: {second_choices}")
    third_choices = all_dishes - (
        diners[first].likes |
        diners[first].dislikes |
        diners[second].likes |
        diners[second].dislikes
    )
    print(f"Third choices, neither liked nor disliked by either, are: {third_choices}")

main()

Vavrek fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Oct 30, 2023

# ? Oct 30, 2023 00:07

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 11:54

Kuvo: Oct 27, 2008; Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!; Fun Shoe

Lecture 177 - All Cops Appreciate Birthdays

Vavrek posted:

Python implements set notation, so it should be just a matter of working through various set intersections.

thats a lot of code for

code:

select s1.name, s2.name, s1.food
from favoriteDishes s1
inner join favoriteDishes s2
on s1.food = s2.food
where s1.name = 'hubert' and s2.name = 'ferdinand'

# ? Oct 30, 2023 22:08

Kuvo: Oct 27, 2008; Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!; Fun Shoe

# ? Oct 30, 2023 22:12

Vavrek: Mar 2, 2013; I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

Kuvo posted:

thats a lot of code for

code:

select s1.name, s2.name, s1.food
from favoriteDishes s1
inner join favoriteDishes s2
on s1.food = s2.food
where s1.name = 'hubert' and s2.name = 'ferdinand'

I don't know poo poo about databases. Any time I try to do literally anything involving a database, I fail to get anything done, because I don't know what the first thing about databases is and so haven't done it.

It's something I've been meaning to work on, but I haven't yet found a good Introduction To Databases From Literally The Ground Up For People Who Need Everything Explained To Them.

edit: To be clear here, if anyone here knows of a solid Databases Assuming You Are A Complete Ignoramus guide or course or something, I'm very interested. I feel like I'm missing only a handful of basic concepts, but that they're equivalent to not knowing you can click a mouse button when using a computer.

Vavrek fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Oct 31, 2023

# ? Oct 31, 2023 00:05

Kuvo: Oct 27, 2008; Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!; Fun Shoe

Lecture 178 - The last dab

# ? Nov 1, 2023 21:07

BlazetheInferno: Jun 6, 2015

I present an offering.

The meals in the Dining Hall are divided into categories. One of the categories is "Spicy". It contains 5 dishes. By comparing each student's Likes & Dislikes, I have given each student a score. +1 point for each like, -1 point for each Dislike on the list of Spicy Dishes. This only covers characters who you can dine with in the Dining Hall, however. Only Final totals presented, I didn't keep track of how many dishes were liked vs disliked, except the ones who didn't like or hate any of them.

Black Eagles:
Edelgard: 1
Hubert: 5
Dorothea: -2
Ferdinand: 1
Bernadetta: -5
Caspar: -1
Petra: 4
Linhardt: -4

Blue Lions:
Dimitri: 1
Dedue: 4
Felix: 5
Mercedes: -5
Ashe: 2
Annette: 2
Sylvain: 4
Ingrid: 3

Golden Deer:
Claude: 2
Lorenz: -3
Hilda: 0 (no likes or dislikes)
Raphael: 2
Lysithea: -5
Ignatz: 1
Marianne: 2
Leonie: 3

Church Staff & Knights
Manuela: 5
Hanneman: -1
Seteth: 4
Flayn: -3
Cyril: 2
Catherine: 1
Alois: -4
Gilbert: 4
Shamir: 3

DLC Characters
Yuri: -2
Balthus: 4
Constance: -1
Hapi: 5
Jeritza: -5
Anna: 4

EDIT: I was bored, in case it wasn't obvious.

BlazetheInferno fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Nov 2, 2023

# ? Nov 2, 2023 01:06

mycatscrimes: Jan 2, 2020

Dmitri canonically has almost no sense of taste, fun fact.

# ? Nov 2, 2023 02:28

Vavrek: Mar 2, 2013; I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

BlazetheInferno posted:

EDIT: I was bored, in case it wasn't obvious.

I respect this.

The only one that feels odd is Gilbert, but everything about Gilbert feels odd.

Hanneman has a theory that people with Crests are predisposed to like sweet foods. Explains Lysithea, at least.

I forgot that one of Mercedes's character traits was baking sweets.

mycatscrimes posted:

Dmitri canonically has almost no sense of taste, fun fact.

I ran across that in a wiki and then started to notice that his meal lines are written without referencing how the meal actually tastes at all. "I used to love this when I was a child."

# ? Nov 2, 2023 02:51

mycatscrimes: Jan 2, 2020

Vavrek posted:

I respect this.

The only one that feels odd is Gilbert, but everything about Gilbert feels odd.

Hanneman has a theory that people with Crests are predisposed to like sweet foods. Explains Lysithea, at least.

I forgot that one of Mercedes's character traits was baking sweets.

I ran across that in a wiki and then started to notice that his meal lines are written without referencing how the meal actually tastes at all. "I used to love this when I was a child."

It comes up most directly in his supports with Flayn, I think.

# ? Nov 2, 2023 03:56

Vavrek: Mar 2, 2013; I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

mycatscrimes posted:

It comes up most directly in his supports with Flayn, I think.

That's what I understand, yes, I'm just at the chapter where he's finally able to hold a conversation again and I haven't gone back to watch any of his Part II supports yet.

Inspired partly by the struggles in this LP and partly by reading up on how Abilities / Combart Arts worked (and how unlocking skills in NG+ works ...), I've spent my entire Blue Lions run having people study Punching and Horse. Once they get up to B-grade Punching (which gives the free 50% heal), I start having them learn Heavy Armor (which gives a Weight reduction).

As a result, I have a lot of people in the mid-30s who aren't able to get into Master Classes, because "You'll learn your weapon skills on the battlefield" is only moderately effective. I have trained everyone wrong ~~as a joke~~ as a science experiment.

# ? Nov 2, 2023 04:10

Kase moch: Jun 5, 2012; Gentlemen prefer blondes

The Tier discussions are far more entertaining than I expected them to be.

# ? Nov 2, 2023 17:41

Kuvo: Oct 27, 2008; Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!; Fun Shoe

Lecture 179 - Silver or Iron

# ? Nov 3, 2023 22:23

goatface: Dec 5, 2007; I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.; Grimey Drawer

Hubert & Linhardt work the Butler suit pretty well. Caspar looks like he stole his big brother's best suit and has rolled the sleeves up. Ferdinand looks like he's wearing a costume.

The ladies all look equally dumb.

# ? Nov 3, 2023 22:51

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

Goddamn it, I looked at another tab for like two minutes and Constance vaporized.

e: the Silver Maiden conversation is fun in Three Hopes. Caspar says he doesn't get the reference calling a fortress that's never been conquered a Maiden, and Dorothea's just like "yeah, uh, ask your parents."

Akratic Method fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Nov 4, 2023

# ? Nov 3, 2023 23:03

mycatscrimes: Jan 2, 2020

Speaking of the Bolt Axe being busted, if you forge it then it will get +1 range

Also Cornelia's deal is that she is one of the mole people

mycatscrimes fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Nov 4, 2023

# ? Nov 4, 2023 05:57

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Apropos to nothing the battle theme that played on the DLC extra mission you did, Corridor of the Tempest is probably my favorite in this game. So naturally it only plays in a couple of the DLC missions and then the exclusive extra battles. :v:

Also Sylvain and Annette's B support is actually pretty good IIRC.

Akratic Method posted:

e: the Silver Maiden conversation is fun in Three Hopes. Caspar says he doesn't get the reference calling a fortress that's never been conquered a Maiden, and Dorothea's just like "yeah, uh, ask your parents."

Clark's line read is absolutely perfect as well.

Sydin fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Nov 4, 2023

# ? Nov 4, 2023 06:52

BlazetheInferno: Jun 6, 2015

I mean, Sylvain's entire shtick is that he hates the Crest System, explicitly because of how it's resulted in him vs his brother being treated.

His brother was competent. He was good at stuff. He was good at what he did. But because he didn't have a crest, he was tossed aside. Sylvain has a crest, and a lot of the time, it's all people see about him. He's the Golden Boy that can Do No Wrong, because he has the crest, so he's the heir, screw everyone else, we have a CREST.

He goes out of his way to act like a dumbass shithead explicitly because he can get away with it; he won't see any meaningful consequences for it because HE HAS A CREST, BOIS. He does it out of SPITE... but, he genuinely is extremely talented, and very smart. But even when he indulges in that, there's that twinge in his mind of "how much of this ability is actually me, and how much is just, 'I have a crest supercharging me'?"

So yeah... him siding with Edelgard in this route really fits.

# ? Nov 4, 2023 16:12

Your Uncle Dracula: Apr 16, 2023

sylvain owns

# ? Nov 5, 2023 09:28

Kuvo: Oct 27, 2008; Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!; Fun Shoe

Lecture 180 - Vajra-Mushti Hadoken

this battle takes a while

# ? Nov 7, 2023 22:01

Cory in the Blouse: Oct 22, 2010; SAMUS ARAN
OUR ONLY HOPE!

Beautiful

# ? Nov 8, 2023 20:17

FeyerbrandX: Oct 9, 2012

*record scratch*
Yeah that's me, bet you wonder how I ended up this way.

Well it all started when I met Cornelia "Magical Baps" McGaven....

# ? Nov 8, 2023 22:33

Vavrek: Mar 2, 2013; I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

Apropos of nothing in particular, I thought you all would enjoy this line from Three Hopes, on the Blue Lions / Kingdom route. Bernie was convinced to surrender, shortly after I beat up her dad. She thought this meant she would leave the fighting and not get drafted into the Kingdom army. She was wrong, to her horror.

# ? Nov 9, 2023 03:30

Kuvo: Oct 27, 2008; Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!; Fun Shoe

Lecture 181 - Girl Power

# ? Nov 10, 2023 01:42

mycatscrimes: Jan 2, 2020

You should try Amyr's combat art now that you have all that Agarthium. It's worth it.

# ? Nov 10, 2023 01:57

kw0134: Apr 19, 2003; I buy feet pics🍆

I wonder what goes through Cornelia's mind as Edelgard's entire army surrounds her completely and waits patiently for Edelgard to basically execute her.

# ? Nov 10, 2023 04:42

mycatscrimes: Jan 2, 2020

kw0134 posted:

I wonder what goes through Cornelia's mind as Edelgard's entire army surrounds her completely and waits patiently for Edelgard to basically execute her.

Going by her dialouge, it's apparently 'All according to keikaku'

# ? Nov 10, 2023 05:15

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Love the contrast of watching you all try to baby your favorite units up in the side missions and then just steamrolling with the A-squad in the story ones.

mycatscrimes posted:

Going by her dialouge, it's apparently 'All according to keikaku'

I vaguely remember reading once that that line was mistranslated and in Japanese Cornelia is saying it's Edelgard who has the master plan and lamenting that she unknowingly got caught up in it. I cannot find it with some quick googling though so maybe I'm misremembering.

# ? Nov 10, 2023 06:03

Vavrek: Mar 2, 2013; I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

Sydin posted:

I vaguely remember reading once that that line was mistranslated and in Japanese Cornelia is saying it's Edelgard who has the master plan and lamenting that she unknowingly got caught up in it. I cannot find it with some quick googling though so maybe I'm misremembering.

Seems to be this: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/dmay58/so_treehouse_really_cant_translate_crimson/
From that redditor:

quote:

English:

Cornelia: Ah... All is in accordance with this carefully crafted script of ours... What a masterpiece! What a delightful dance...

Japanese: そう・・・それが・・あんたの書いた、筋書きってわけ・・・はは、ははは・・・傑作だァ・・・踊らされていたのが・・・こちらとは、な・・・

Translated: Ohh, so that... is the outline that you have written... What a masterpiece... the ones that were being forced to dance around were in fact... us...

Note: found plenty of other complaints about the localizers along the way.

# ? Nov 10, 2023 07:27

mycatscrimes: Jan 2, 2020

Well that makes way more sense!

# ? Nov 10, 2023 16:00

kw0134: Apr 19, 2003; I buy feet pics🍆

While that's a much more sensible interpretation, it almost makes sense to read it in the tone of the dril tweet "that's not blood, that's victory wine" kind of self-deluded boasting as she gets body slammed by a dozen perfect fighters.

# ? Nov 10, 2023 16:37

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

Kuvo posted:

Lecture 181 - Girl Power

The day Cornelia graced Hapi's village was the most important day in Hapi's life. But for Cornelia? It was *dies*

# ? Nov 14, 2023 02:19

Kuvo: Oct 27, 2008; Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!; Fun Shoe

Lecture 182 - Onii-chan

making it into some A rank supports

# ? Nov 14, 2023 23:06

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

They�re pretty consistent about pronouncing Dmitri�s house name as Blay-thid, and I kinda love it because saying dd that way marks it as Welsh, so every single one of the four parts of his name is an unrelated language

Dmitri: Greek or Slavic
Alexandre: French
von: German
Blayddid: Welsh

You would be hard-pressed to make up a more ridiculous combination, short of sneaking some like Basque or Albanian or something in there.

# ? Nov 15, 2023 01:33

Slaan: Mar 16, 2009; ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Poor Constance is never the horsegirl, always the horsemaid

# ? Nov 15, 2023 04:03

Cool Dogs Only: Nov 10, 2012

It's too bad we don't get to see the Javelins of Light cutscene in this route. Early on in the LP I decided to spoil myself and listen to the whole OST, and when I got to that song it blew my mind. I was not expecting that kind of style, but it actually works really well for this game.

# ? Nov 15, 2023 05:56

Rody One Half: Feb 18, 2011

Worse, we won't get the theme of the Agarthan's home base, Shambala, which is the single funniest thing ever put in a FE.

# ? Nov 15, 2023 06:28

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Rody One Half posted:

Worse, we won't get the theme of the Agarthan's home base, Shambala, which is the single funniest thing ever put in a FE.

(spoilers, uh, kinda I guess from Golden Deer and Church routes)

https://twitter.com/pastafrutti/status/1179514645901479937

# ? Nov 15, 2023 06:55

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

If we�re going that far, link the song!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhMGfbv-jk

And this plays in an underground high tech base where you get harassed by laser turrets and robots.

# ? Nov 15, 2023 11:07

Vavrek: Mar 2, 2013; I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

Akratic Method posted:

If we�re going that far, link the song!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhMGfbv-jk

And this plays in an underground high tech base where you get harassed by laser turrets and robots.

Lost my goddamn mind at that point. Calling the Church route "GD Lite" is accurate given that I understand the Deer follow that one up immediately with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WMYL6HuUoI

The worst thing about Crimson Flower may be Dubstep Erasure.
(The worst thing about Azure Moon is Dimitri.)

# ? Nov 15, 2023 17:09

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 11:54

Rody One Half: Feb 18, 2011

Golden Deer and Silver Snow are bizarre routes in that thematically they're infinitely less important than Azure Moon or Crimson Flower... but Azure Moon and Crimson Flower exclude huge chunks of the game's actual lore that explain what's actually happening. There's a lot of 3H's structure that's just baffling in that way, like how CF is somehow the last thing they started making because they initially thought nobody would want to support Edelgard, and the first route created was actually Silver Snow, by far the route with the least exclusive material or people who could give a poo poo about it.

E: I've probably said all that before and forgotten about it, but it is the constant thought refrain I have about this game. It has some of my absolute favorite CONTENT in a Fire Emblem, but it is put together in the most slapdash and insane way imaginable.

Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Nov 15, 2023

# ? Nov 15, 2023 17:20

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