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RoboCop is just a play on Golem mythology. The first really Roman robot.
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Nov 6, 2023 21:47
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This is an all but openly stated theme of the movie and something even the sequels remember, that Robocop is a loving terrible idea and only worked as long as it did by chance. The best scene in Robocop 2 is all the hosed up failure Robocop models, the bes of which is the one that pulls his own head off
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Nov 6, 2023 22:36
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I like the final fight in that movie, but moreso for the craft of it. Robocain is still in my nightmares too.
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Nov 6, 2023 22:49
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The best scene in Robocop 2 is all the hosed up failure Robocop models, the bes of which is the one that pulls his own head off I dunno, the one that just shoots the two scientists before shooting him?self had the right idea.
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Nov 6, 2023 23:02
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It always kinda shocks me that this effect made it into the final cut. Like, "guy falling out of a building" doesn't seem like the most technical VFX challenge compared to all the other stuff in Robocop that all looks really really good, so why did this shot look so... bizarre?
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Nov 6, 2023 23:14
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Asterite34 posted:It always kinda shocks me that this effect made it into the final cut. Like, "guy falling out of a building" doesn't seem like the most technical VFX challenge compared to all the other stuff in Robocop that all looks really really good, so why did this shot look so... bizarre? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HgF4kq4j50&t=240s I always thought it was either a dummy or a guy wearing a weird coat with long arms for foreshortening purposes, but it's actually just bad claymation. Or whatever you call that, since that's copyrighted...
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Nov 6, 2023 23:18
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Fimotion. Kinetisculpt.
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Nov 6, 2023 23:29
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80s special effects are hard, and I think they went for 'good enough' for what would be like a second in the actual movie. That and they didn't mind it being pretty goofy especially with the clearly stop-motion ED-209.Icon Of Sin posted:LAPD is getting weird with the bugmech hybrids. There are lines we were never meant to cross, and a Frankenmech composed of the bugmechs was one of them. That's not just a bugmech, that's a Transformer! Goes between walker and hovercar mode.
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Nov 6, 2023 23:32
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Ghost Leviathan posted:80s special effects are hard, and I think they went for 'good enough' for what would be like a second in the actual movie. That and they didn't mind it being pretty goofy especially with the clearly stop-motion ED-209. I don’t find stop-motion goofy at all; clearly it differs from the other footage in a film but it feels weighty and real, so the suspension of disbelief isn’t that hard. It can also add a ‘creepy’ feel. Goddamn this poo poo still looks good: https://youtu.be/TsZzfQNzKMk?si=nh3DPn-6nT_lLdXC https://youtu.be/dqRjDGAJ5dc?si=DWbGNuK4vsjw076F
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Nov 7, 2023 00:33
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Remulak posted:I don’t find stop-motion goofy at all; clearly it differs from the other footage in a film but it feels weighty and real, so the suspension of disbelief isn’t that hard. It can also add a ‘creepy’ feel. lol, goofy rear end skeletons
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Nov 7, 2023 01:33
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Remulak posted:I don’t find stop-motion goofy at all; clearly it differs from the other footage in a film but it feels weighty and real, so the suspension of disbelief isn’t that hard. It can also add a ‘creepy’ feel. Bob Burns had a quote about that, something like "CGI looks real, but it feels fake. but a good puppet or stop motion feels real, even if it looks fake" He also talked about how little things like the fingers of the stop motion animators disturbing the fur of the King Kong maquette give it a more lively look, or how most special effects look pretty mediocre until you turn down the lights and add some goop, fog and blinky lights. Slather anything in astroglide and blast it with a fog machine and it'll look a hundred times better.
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Nov 7, 2023 03:59
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WaywardWoodwose posted:Slather anything in astroglide and blast it with a fog machine and it'll look a hundred times better. please stop posting about my genitals
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Nov 7, 2023 04:02
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The skeleton fight looks goofy but in the charming and characterful way. Iconic
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Nov 7, 2023 04:51
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There's several cases where the herky-jerky style of stop motion is a plus, even: it makes the skeletons' movement look more uncanny, and it makes things like ED-209 or the AT-ATs in ESB look more mechanical.
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Nov 7, 2023 05:03
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Rochallor posted:There's several cases where the herky-jerky style of stop motion is a plus, even: it makes the skeletons' movement look more uncanny, and it makes things like ED-209 or the AT-ATs in ESB look more mechanical. Theres loads of videos of people putting old school animation through AI interpolators to "smooth out" the frame rate or some poo poo, and it's the worst thing ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itYdtKY-9w4 Makes it feel so much more unnatural, and in the case of the big clunky statues or skeletons you completely lose all sense of weight or movement.
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Nov 9, 2023 10:56
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I simply would have made the original stop motion 120 fps to begin with 
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Nov 9, 2023 11:00
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Theres loads of videos of people putting old school animation through AI interpolators to "smooth out" the frame rate or some poo poo, and it's the worst thing ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itYdtKY-9w4 But naaaah, pretty much no-one will use it for that.
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Nov 9, 2023 11:14
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The idea that special effects were something people worked with and around is unfortunately lost on a lot of people, especially the techbros who have the worst taste in everything.
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Nov 9, 2023 12:30
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The idea that special effects were something people worked with and around is unfortunately lost on a lot of people, especially the techbros who have the worst taste in everything. I saw part of a documentary on the fight between Ripley and the Alien Queen from Aliens, the puppeteering and scale model model work they had to do to make that scene work was absolutely insane. The director (James Cameron) was also good about using cuts between Ripley and the Queen to minimize the time you’re looking at the puppet or the scale models. The power loader Ripley was in was also a puppet. There was a guy inside it moving bits around. It had to have been awkward, but that puppeteer and Sigourney Weaver really sold it. From https://ew.com/comic-con/2016/07/18/aliens-anniversary-oral-history/ : quote:One of the harder shots was getting it to run after [Ripley] when she runs to the airlock, and that was a miniature puppet that was probably only about 3 feet tall, operated by rods with a slot in the floor. You had to frame it very carefully so you didn’t see the rods, since in those days, you couldn’t even take rods and wires out [digitally]. So that [fight] was basically a giant exercise in practical effects. So it was either practical full scale, or it was practical miniature. That movie is 40 years old in 2026, and is still holding up fairly well.
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Nov 9, 2023 14:35
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Icon Of Sin posted:I saw part of a documentary on the fight between Ripley and the Alien Queen from Aliens, the puppeteering and scale model model work they had to do to make that scene work was absolutely insane. The director (James Cameron) was also good about using cuts between Ripley and the Queen to minimize the time you’re looking at the puppet or the scale models. The Stan Winston School's Youtube channel also has a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff, including this dorky "garbage bag test" proof of concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vtLK-DxdGc They've got a ton of behind the scenes photos on their homepage as well: https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/aliens-alien-queen-full-size-puppet There's also lots of lots of videos about lifesize Jurassic Park animatronics and Terminator stuff on their Youtube channel, it's loving great
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Nov 9, 2023 15:09
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Aliens has my favorite bad matte painting scene, theres one wide shot in the Sulaco hanger and the backdrop looks like they painted it on a sheet or something.
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Nov 9, 2023 16:37
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credburn posted:I simply would have made the original stop motion 120 fps to begin with When I was in high school my parents had a video camera that could do stop-motion as a feature and it topped out at 2fps. A couple minutes of that was a guaranteed A on any multi-media project, but dear god it takes FOREVER.
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Nov 9, 2023 17:28
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https://youtu.be/f19hF7-nT8g?si=4LHcM0UKB_RJPcAN
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Nov 9, 2023 17:40
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I'm kinda wondering when somebody is going to make a movie with that retro grimy 80s fantasy aesthetic like Labyrinth or Masters of the Universe.
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Nov 9, 2023 17:58
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The idea that special effects were something people worked with and around is unfortunately lost on a lot of people, especially the techbros who have the worst taste in everything. I never really believed that some people just don't have a sense of imagination or creativity, until all this AI poo poo boomed and the techbros proved it.
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Nov 9, 2023 17:59
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The tech industry, and the people in it, is the worst thing to happen to america since September 7,2001 which is, of course, when the movie Hearts in Atlantis was released
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Nov 9, 2023 18:07
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCUze7kuNas
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Nov 9, 2023 22:08
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The shots of the two headed dog in clash of the titans… the fur looks incredible and real compared to even current CGI. Also, Aliens has one of my favourite fx shots ever, when Bishop’s torso and head slides across the floor. Try and figure out how they did that!
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Nov 9, 2023 23:15
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well why not posted:The shots of the two headed dog in clash of the titans… the fur looks incredible and real compared to even current CGI. They cut Lance Henriksen in half.
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Nov 10, 2023 00:23
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This is embarrassing but I had never actually seen Aliens all the way through until like four days ago and it was incredible and held up well.
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Nov 10, 2023 00:30
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Rockman Reserve posted:This is embarrassing but I had never actually seen Aliens all the way through until like four days ago and it was incredible and held up well. The aliens were completely unrealistic. Ask anyone who's been abducted.
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Nov 10, 2023 01:05
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Desert Bus posted:The aliens were completely unrealistic. Ask anyone who's been abducted. Pfft, those people got probed and their faces hugged! They got it great!
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Nov 10, 2023 06:33
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Icon Of Sin posted:Pfft, those people got probed and their faces hugged! They got it great! Luckily the aliens only gave them a 6 hour probe, not the full ban.
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Nov 10, 2023 07:14
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Being probed and then hugged is my ideal Friday night.
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Nov 10, 2023 19:38
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aliens are Real and they just want to be the little spoon 👽
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Nov 10, 2023 20:34
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exquisite tea posted:I'm kinda wondering when somebody is going to make a movie with that retro grimy 80s fantasy aesthetic like Labyrinth or Masters of the Universe. Aliens is a dirty and sweaty movie but also weirdly the Marine's technology is clean an angular. But yah the iPod modern everything super clean esthetic needs to die.
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Nov 10, 2023 21:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aloGdnDx8Y The Elvis movies have aged super weirdly.
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Push El Burrito posted:They cut Lance Henriksen in half. You have to appreciate the man's dedication to his craft.
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I'm reading the Invincible comic for the first time in forever and there's some big oofs in it. Mostly just 00s humor with calling someone "gay" or one time Mark just straight up says something is "retarded"
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