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Yeah, there are a lot of made up justifications about how the Arabs just hate Israelis for being Jewish so it's necessary to oppress the Palestinians and make war with the neighboring countries, but the early Zionists were pretty straightforward about "of course they will hate us, we'd hate us!"
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30.5 Days posted:one of the ways in which Britain is funny is that the Tories inexplicably do the democrat "what are you going to do vote for the other guys?" thing to cops and treat them like poo poo for no clear reason. Theresa may was particularly well known for this The Tories are certainly receptive to the concept of fascism, but are far too lazy, snobbish and complacent to actually do it. If you want a brutal, authoritarian state, a prerequisite for that is a very large, well-resourced, well-paid police force that's motivated to back the ruling party and the Tories are just too greedy and short-sighted to fund it. So you get the language of fascism from them but they've not got the levers to make anything actually happen.
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Hey guys I'm not really feeling the whole "a tank was destroyed" phrasing. Tanks are just material things and the only reason they get called out is because they cost so much, that's way too capitalist for me. Can we start focusing on the real prize inside? Try "a whole tank crew was destroyed".
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smoobles posted:my brain is hosed.. all I can see is 4 Dilberts 4 dilberts on the edge of a genocide... israel works the same way
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some tanks are more precious because they're bespoke models painstakingly handcrafted for one country's needs and then you have the ones that get stamped out by the hundreds through the mysterious asiatic technique called mass production
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Frosted Flake posted:I do like that YouTubers that apparently policed the West Bank and Gaza are making videos about how insulting it is that people found out it wasn't explained very well. there's a large divide in the idf between those in combat roles and those in non combat rolls, with the former acting superior to the latter and most of israeli society taking a similar tone. as such there are different traditions they embraced to differentiate themselves. not putting on the two stripes is one of these traditions, most idf soldiers have to put them on, but "fighters" get a pass. another one for example is that when soldiers go home on vacation they wear their dress uniform, and fighters wouldn't under any circumstance or weather roll down their sleeves, most of them would also refuse to put on a coat over their dress uniform.
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Danann posted:some tanks are more precious because they're bespoke models painstakingly handcrafted for one country's needs Human wave tactics, but as industrial policy
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Kunabomber posted:Have you met any engineers? Have you ever met an engineer? Those fascist fucks would be giggling about the results the whole time.
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Buddy, I am an engineer, and I'm horrified. But I've met enough to know that morality doesn't come into play in a lot of what we decide to do.
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When I design a doomsday weapon it's to save our own men's lives and kill the enemy. But when the emperor of the 6 galaxies decides to sell my doomsday weapon to a cackling madman who unleashes my destructo-ray on the innocent people of candy floss 7, well, that's his call. Nothing I can do about it. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to make a hand grenade that doesn't explode but sends out little tiny robots that flay people alive with tiny carrot peelers. To save lives. I'm a good person.
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Comrade Koba posted:drake no: gal gadot 
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Frosted Flake posted:There's a book about homosexuality in West Germany that's pretty good, and it's actually a bit worse than that, because they also kept arresting new people under those laws too. At least they had plenty of time for this fella up until the 90s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kentler?wprov=sfla1
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:it wasn't explained very well. there's a large divide in the idf between those in combat roles and those in non combat rolls, with the former acting superior to the latter and most of israeli society taking a similar tone. as such there are different traditions they embraced to differentiate themselves. not putting on the two stripes is one of these traditions, most idf soldiers have to put them on, but "fighters" get a pass. another one for example is that when soldiers go home on vacation they wear their dress uniform, and fighters wouldn't under any circumstance or weather roll down their sleeves, most of them would also refuse to put on a coat over their dress uniform. fuckin JROTC-rear end country
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guidoanselmi posted:Gaza is operating as efficiently as a Nazi extermination camp. Auschwitz 2023 half speed remaster
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:most idf soldiers have to put them on, but "fighters" get a pass. "Have to" on paper, as in, if an MP catches you and decides to be a dick that day and check you're all up to code, it's a problem, but that won't necessarily happen often or even at all depending where you serve. Even so I assume the only way for them to know whoever they're checking needs to have their stripes on is to look at their little soldier ID and calculate how much time has passed and if they've ranked up since then, and they probably don't even think to do that usually. lol @ the one time I saw some dickhead MP on the street demanding to check out this random soldier and measure her hair length to make sure it doesn't go past her collar, at which point she has to tie it and therefore is breaking the rules. MPs are generally little kids like all the rest, so I doubt this happens often, but whatever. Sancho Banana has issued a correction as of 10:30 on Nov 10, 2023 |
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Morbus posted:i thought "bomb them in the leg" was pretty safe satire but here we are wha tthe gently caress the US has a missile with swords why would you make this
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guys check it out i invented a gun that only kills babies.
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Tirade posted:Auschwitz 2023 half speed remaster The great satan is now starting to say the death toll is severely under-counted which tracks with what people in Gaza are saying. A couple of days ago the health minister in Gaza reported nearly 250 deaths over 24 hours, but the doctor at one hospital reported 500 martyrs brought in overnight from one refugee camp to his hospital. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1722611520457064629 https://twitter.com/GhassanAbuSitt1/status/1721443189461070061
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crepeface posted:wha tthe gently caress the US has a missile with swords totally sincere answer: it's supposed to create less collateral damage when they're assassinating Terrorist Leaders since it has no explosive component, so they can 'precision target' some guy and it might kill 4 people close to him instead of an entire wedding but this fig leaf justification doesn't apply if you're just dropping the thing on encampments of displaced people around a hospital
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Sancho Banana posted:"Have to" on paper, as in, if an MP catches you and decides to be a dick that day and check you're all up to code, it's a problem, but that won't necessarily happen often or even at all depending where you serve. Even so I assume the only way for them to know whoever they're checking needs to have their stripes on is to look at their little soldier ID and calculate how much time has passed and if they've ranked up since then and they probably don't even think to do that usually. from what I know the two stripes are usually enforced everywhere for non fighters. not just by MPs but also by unit and base commanders.
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its made the news a few times before this. it exists for assassinations in urban areas. its how they killed al Zawahiri without killing his family or neighbors. using it on an encampment is insane behavior however
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crepeface posted:wha tthe gently caress the US has a missile with swords they're called the great satan for a reason they have a huge industry just for coming up with exotic ways to do war crimes in the global south
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KomradeX posted:Human wave tactics, but as industrial policy lol amusingly enough i just read an article about it human wave industrial policy quote:Though there was indeed a stage of “human wave tactics” and “manual building of high technology” in Mao’s time, and though there was a large gap between our manufacturing processes and that of the developed capitalist countries in the West still exists, it is undeniable that the industrial system of New China achieved a transformation from nothing to something, Breakthroughs in highly integrated, cutting-edge scientific and technological areas such as “two bombs and one satellite,” large aircraft, and electronic computers, allowed us to jumpstart development in many other scientific research fields and industrial sectors, and through the process of iteration and continuous improvement, catching up with developed countries was no longer out of reach. And this was due to the institutional advantages of socialist multi-sectoral collaboration and the selfless dedication of workers and researchers.
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i suggest googling weapons systems before writing a post about them. its good for your sanity
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The point of the knife missile is to throw it at a car or a building with someone US or Israeli intelligence tells the drone operator that is a Terrorist. Aka it's aimed at alot of innocent people. In this case they just threw the knife missile in a crowded courtyard, for the simple reason that the munition was available and the operators just want to kill people. Meaning all the Ethical benefits of the Knife missile are nullified.
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Elden Lord Godfrey posted:the Ethical benefits of the Knife missile the mind reels at this combination of words
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Al-Saqr posted:lol what the hell is going on in england Home Secretary Suella Braverman is a stone-cold lunatic, insanely bigoted, racist, xenophobic monster, who is also extremely ignorant about the law, which is kind of funny, since she's supposed to be in charge of law enforcement. She wants all pro Palestinian marches banned, she wants the police to do so, they said they do not have that authority, it's up to her/government to do it. Just yesterday, she compared the pro-palestinian marches to pro-terrorism marches in Northern Ireland, which is extremely funny, since the only organisation that regularly holds controversial marches there, is the Orange Order, aka Loyalists/Unionists, who are Tory allies. They were not very pleased.
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Pookah posted:Home Secretary Suella Braverman is a stone-cold lunatic, insanely bigoted, racist, xenophobic monster, who is also extremely ignorant about the law, which is kind of funny, since she's supposed to be in charge of law enforcement. Whoops. Also this is what happens when you put bums on seats for reasons other than ability & competency. Not going to stop any time soon.
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:from what I know the two stripes are usually enforced everywhere for non fighters. not just by MPs but also by unit and base commanders. It SHOULD be, but isn't necessarily. In the past, I've met plenty of desk workers from differnet REMF bases who said they rarely ever got checked by MPs and their personal commanders were, like, a year older than them and basically their friends so they never checked them either, and that the two stripes were somewhat embarrassing even for them. In most bases, soldiers in this or that unit need to attend this weekly ritual where they all stand in formation and go left-right-left-right or some stupid poo poo like that for a couple minutes before the base commander tells everyone to stand in a line so he can check their appearance, but he slacks in regards to the stripes - he just checks their hair is tied (for women), their shoes are clean, they have their dog tags and IDs and that they have a beard/hair exemption if they're a man with a beard/longer-then-buzzcut hair. Sometimes, they even just skip this part. E: you can also avoid these rituals by just not showing. Typically, some soldiers write down everyone's names ahead of time on their phone and then presumably pass it on to whoever checks it, but once you get yourself written down, you can just leave. Sancho Banana has issued a correction as of 10:53 on Nov 10, 2023 |
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Al-Saqr posted:lol what the hell is going on in england The current British govt are trying to out-compete each other on who can be the most fascist "gently caress the hippies" / law and order / racist, because the party is lurching from crisis to crisis, will probably lose the next election, and then there might be a leadership context. Suella Braveman (home secretary aka interior minister, responsible for the police) is apparently doing the dril racism/fascism price is right tweet in an effort to get herself on the radar as a future leadership candidate when the current guy gets ousted, and is (ironically for a non-white person) going for the turbo-racist wing of her party as opposed to just the sensible racists. The disagreements over the march is an incredibly stupid microcosm of modern british politics too. 11/11 is "rememberance sunday" which is supposed to be a solemn occasion where people remember the deaths of average soldiers in WW1, "lions led by donkeys" and essentially millions of soldiers led to a pointless death in trench warfare for nothing. this is reinforced by education in primary/secondary schools where they harp on about how trench warfare was a bad thing, is emphasised in our museums (e.g. the (aptly named) Imperial War Museum has a whole trench warfare thing from what i remember, complete with artificial trench smells). there isn't much political context about WW1, just that it was a bit of a big oopsie and lots of soldiers died. There's a whole march and wreath laying ceremony and a national minute of silence at 11:00 when WW1 officially ended. Then there is the whole insane poppy thing. People traditionally wear red poppies, which according to the royal british legion: "The poppy became a symbol of Remembrance and hope for a peaceful future in the aftermath of the First World War." Sounds great, except somewhere along the line (i'm not old enough to know exactly when, maybe the blair/iraq war era?) it became something that you have to wear and take part in to be part of polite society, people were shaming newsreaders or just randoms on TV for not wearing a poppy and thus hating "Are Troops" or just hating  in general. This led to increasingly deranged displays of performative "patriotism" in the form of outrageously large displays featuring loving red poppies for no loving discernible reason whatsoever other than "big poppy = more support for Are Troops". Here's a few contemporary examples:https://twitter.com/HaddocksBeard/status/1718523002885685509 https://twitter.com/Catofbengals/status/1722493769243636059 https://twitter.com/ecLOLogy/status/1721415443217285545 scroll through the https://twitter.com/giantpoppywatch account for more insight into our extremely normal island. Very coincidentally the people pushing this poppy fascism and insanity also happened to be extremely right wing, quelle suprise. Taking this back to Israel/Palestine and trying to get the march banned, it's pretty hilarious/crack-pinging that the day of literally remembering the dead in wars is completely off limits for suggesting that maybe we should stop killing people in more wars. Also doing so is an affront to The Great British Public and all sensible thinking people or whatever, and insinuating that the Metropolitan Police, of all loving people (famous for murdering people in cold blood, regularly, having a bunch of rapists and murders on the force, usual cop stuff), have somehow gone woke by not allowing an anti-war demonstration on anti-war day. It also seems to be working, too, so probably someone smarter than me can explain how the manufacturing consent machine has made black == white or whatever, but nothing means anything any more and nobody cares. death to britain, death to israel, death to america
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...3272#1421043272 IDF names soldier killed in Gaza fighting as Staff Sgt. Gilad Rozenblit 6:15 AM The IDF announced Friday that Staff Sgt. Gilad Rozenblit from Kibbutz Ginegar was killed in fighting in the Gaza Strip on Thursday. Rozenblit, 21, was a frontline medic and was killed in northern Gaza.
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Death By The Blues posted:The great satan is now starting to say the death toll is severely under-counted which tracks with what people in Gaza are saying. A couple of days ago the health minister in Gaza reported nearly 250 deaths over 24 hours, but the doctor at one hospital reported 500 martyrs brought in overnight from one refugee camp to his hospital. lol because about a week ago they said "the death toll is inflated you can't trust the sneaky hamas-run gaza health ministry propaganda"
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