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bawfuls posted:I disagree. We've had wildly different cultural institutions before capitalism, and if we're lucky some future humans will have wildly different cultural institution after capitalism. but there is nothing remaining after capitalism, in terms of natural resources. it will eat them all until it has destroyed itself, and everything else in the bargain.
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Nov 10, 2023 05:01
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Car Hater posted:It's your personal responsibility to vaccinate yourself against rising seas, dust bowls, atmospheric rivers and hypercanes you dont need a vaccine, hypercanes are mild & you'll build up a natural immunity if you gradually catch bigger and bigger hypercanes
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Nov 10, 2023 05:27
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mdemone posted:but there is nothing remaining after capitalism, in terms of natural resources. it will eat them all until it has destroyed itself, and everything else in the bargain. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but the Earth will still exist after capitalism ends. quote:Gaia is a tough bitch — a system that has worked for over three billion years without people. This planet's surface and its atmosphere and environment will continue to evolve long after people and prejudice are gone.
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Nov 10, 2023 05:38
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mdemone posted:but there is nothing remaining after capitalism, in terms of natural resources. it will eat them all until it has destroyed itself, and everything else in the bargain. That implies a global collapse is far off, possibly beyond our life times. Depleting every resource til there is nothing left takes time, especially as our late stage capitalism is resistant to spending money on infrastructure and capital projects required to continuously expand resource consumption.
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Nov 10, 2023 06:26
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There are really only two plausible outcomes: 1) We really do solve climate change. Everything is fine! We stop extracting all the poo poo because we've developed magic technology or just somehow managed to transition ourselves away from fossil fuels in, like, the next five years. 2) We lose the ability to extract and burn on this scale long before we've gotten everything out of the ground. At some point we'll go back to just burning more coal, but if things get really bad then there's going to be a tipping point where we won't be able to get at nearly as much oil. We're never going to burn it all. We're failures even as parasites intent on sucking all the natural resources of this world dry.
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Nov 10, 2023 06:38
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maximum power principle
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Nov 10, 2023 07:21
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Its kinda neat that the only oil left in the ground will be the oil that’s the most difficult to get to. After global industrial civilization collapses, those resources will be trapped for a LONG time. Whatever post capitalist humanity remains will have to spend centuries (millennia?) building a radically different society and economy along different technological lines before they’ll ever have the capacity to access the oil that’s left. Maybe by that time they won’t have use for it anyway.
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Nov 10, 2023 07:33
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Mop dogs ftw (my dog is also a little mop)
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Nov 10, 2023 08:57
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bawfuls posted:Its kinda neat that the only oil left in the ground will be the oil that’s the most difficult to get to. After global industrial civilization collapses, those resources will be trapped for a LONG time. Whatever post capitalist humanity remains will have to spend centuries (millennia?) building a radically different society and economy along different technological lines before they’ll ever have the capacity to access the oil that’s left. Maybe by that time they won’t have use for it anyway. Someone post that crow comic again
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Nov 10, 2023 09:49
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/09/microplastic-eating-plankton-worsening-crisis-oceans-plastic-pollutionquote:Each rotifer, named from the Latin for “wheel-bearer” owing to the whirling wheel of cilia around their mouths, can create between 348,000 and 366,000 nanoplastics – particles smaller than one micrometre – each day. Et tu, Bdelloid?
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Nov 10, 2023 11:43
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I can't bdellieve it
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Nov 10, 2023 12:49
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uguu posted:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/09/microplastic-eating-plankton-worsening-crisis-oceans-plastic-pollution As I stand on the dock overlooking the crashing ocean waves, I somberly ponder that mankind is not alone. Somewhere out there in the ocean, tiny plankton are breaking plastic down into more dangerous microparticles. It may be inadvertently, but tiny friends are helping us in the great work of consuming this planet. A single tear flows from my eye and plops into the ocean. More microplastics for our little friends.
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Nov 10, 2023 13:19
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Weep only for our ancestors, who did not get to enjoy all the benefits of a plasticized world
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Nov 10, 2023 13:30
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Hubbert posted:good dog  good dog
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Nov 10, 2023 14:21
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Hubbert posted:I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but the Earth will still exist after capitalism ends.
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Nov 10, 2023 14:30
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Future humans should be grateful for all this free plastic
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Nov 10, 2023 14:51
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r u ready to WALK posted:I can't bdellieve it me neither bduddy
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Nov 10, 2023 14:53
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Weird this keeps happening in Texas. I will not be looking into the regulation environment, thank you
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Nov 10, 2023 14:58
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It always blows my mind that there are human beings living in places like Texas City
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Nov 10, 2023 15:12
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Dokapon Findom posted:It always blows my mind that there are human beings living in places like Texas City i don’t think there are any there, just Texans
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Nov 10, 2023 15:13
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Hubbert posted:I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but the Earth will still exist after capitalism ends. We can do better. We've got all these nukes. Let's get planet crackin'
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Nov 10, 2023 16:05
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Do we have enough nukes to overcome gravity and send chunks of earth careening into space in all directions though? I'm thinking at most we would be able to make some big dents in the surface and irradiate the planet for a long time but I don't we could actually obliterate it to the point it's no longer a planet orbiting the sun. In other words things will be fine (for the planet, not us)
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Nov 10, 2023 16:24
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Microplastics posted:Someone post that crow comic again https://www.badspacecomics.com/post/grounded
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Nov 10, 2023 16:37
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r u ready to WALK posted:I can't bdellieve it
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Nov 10, 2023 16:54
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r u ready to WALK posted:Do we have enough nukes to overcome gravity and send chunks of earth careening into space in all directions though?
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Nov 10, 2023 17:05
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daaaamn thats awesome
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Nov 10, 2023 17:06
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i think the crowpeople could probably get up to the industrial revolution with charcoal-fed blast furnaces really loving good comic though
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Nov 10, 2023 17:11
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bawfuls posted:Its kinda neat that the only oil left in the ground will be the oil that’s the most difficult to get to. After global industrial civilization collapses, those resources will be trapped for a LONG time. Whatever post capitalist humanity remains will have to spend centuries (millennia?) building a radically different society and economy along different technological lines before they’ll ever have the capacity to access the oil that’s left. Maybe by that time they won’t have use for it anyway. Steampunk coal powered war wagons
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Nov 10, 2023 17:17
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SixteenShells posted:i think the crowpeople could probably get up to the industrial revolution with charcoal-fed blast furnaces and if you liked that comic, the rest on that site are pretty good too
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Nov 10, 2023 17:23
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cat botherer posted:
obsessed with how dog shaped this dog is, and the little powdered donut mouth also ikanreed posted:Weird this keeps happening in Texas. I will not be looking into the regulation environment, thank you i admire the people driving towards the cloud. the true crack pinged
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Nov 10, 2023 17:24
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uguu posted:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/09/microplastic-eating-plankton-worsening-crisis-oceans-plastic-pollution This is horrible. We need to make the microplastics stronger so it doesn't break down
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Nov 10, 2023 17:29
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bawfuls posted:they’ll need a lot of forests to regrow first though Yeah I love that site, unfortunately he went from making about a comic per month to not having made one since August
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Nov 10, 2023 17:30
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mags posted:i don’t think there are any there, just Texans Lib brained
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Nov 10, 2023 18:09
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Microplastics posted:Someone post that crow comic again
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Nov 10, 2023 18:34
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thetan_guy42 posted:Lib brained yeah they are yes
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Nov 10, 2023 18:35
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cat botherer posted:
good dog r u ready to WALK posted:I can't bdellieve it good bdog
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Nov 10, 2023 18:40
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My very rough guess is that it would take 100 quintillion 1Mt nukes to literally blow up the Earth, so for all our problems I don’t think we need to worry about that
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Nov 10, 2023 18:58
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Good news! What has been called the first commercial plant in the United States to use direct air capture just opened, and another plant is operating in Iceland! It can remove the exhaust from about 200 cars. It does this by heating limestone to 1,650 degrees Fahrenheit. https://news.yahoo.com/u-first-commercial-plant-starts-182814975.html quote:The startup that built the facility, Heirloom Carbon Technologies, calls it the first commercial plant in the United States to use direct air capture, which involves vacuuming greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. Another plant is operating in Iceland, and some scientists say the technique could be crucial for fighting climate change. quote:Heirloom won’t disclose its exact costs, but experts estimate that direct air capture currently costs around $600 to $1,000 per ton of carbon dioxide, making it by far the most expensive way to curb emissions, even after new federal tax credits worth up to $180 per ton.
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Nov 10, 2023 20:18
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vegetables posted:My very rough guess is that it would take 100 quintillion 1Mt nukes to literally blow up the Earth, so for all our problems I don’t think we need to worry about that we don't need to blow it up, we just need to crack it like an egg I think if we apply all our engineering prowess to this we can achieve it
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