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For me personally the current Red stuff is just an entire arc of "sure, do whatever I guess" but, even despite that, Ewing is still showing why he's the best writer around with every single issue.
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Codependent Poster posted:Everyone just kind of ignored what he did. Maybe they'll talk about how Beast sucks now, but the only real impact it had was the one issue of Immortal sure but like, i read all of the X books for a while and this was not anything unique to X-Force. maybe they really started ramping up the cross-book consequences the second i stopped reading all of the other books but i really doubt it
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BrianWilly posted:For me personally the current Red stuff is just an entire arc of "sure, do whatever I guess" but, even despite that, Ewing is still showing why he's the best writer around with every single issue. As I get back into comics, i prioritized Excalibur over X-men Red and that whole arc, and I don't regret it. Also, Sinister's little dig at the severed head of Dark Beast that he's not even the darkest Beast around anymore was loving delicious.
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Diet Poison posted:I was under the impression that most of the time, the creatives do not have a choice in this manner. I was wondering what dirt Percy has on editorial that his books seem to be immune from this editorial fuckery. Do we know any of that or is this back to BSS' Vague Vibes-Based Ideas Of How Comic Book Editorial Works
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Nov 10, 2023 07:13
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maybe Percy's books don't get hosed with because they actually sell lmao
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Nov 10, 2023 07:42
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Beast becoming the absolute loving worst, like Emplate and Apocalypse have moral high ground over him, is loving hilarious to me since he loving left Utopia because of Scott Summer's X-Force team. I think there were seeds of it in earlier stories where Hank McCoy abandons humanity, but it became really prominent with Hickman's New Avengers and Percy just ran with it. Sinister is still worse I believe, but he's so camp we want to forgive him, but making Beast worse than Emplate is a loving accomplishment.
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Nov 10, 2023 09:34
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Blockhouse posted:Do we know any of that or is this back to BSS' Vague Vibes-Based Ideas Of How Comic Book Editorial Works Percy was given a lane when the Krakoa era started, and he's mostly stuck to it. Besides X LIves/X Deaths you could mostly ignore X-Force and Wolverine and not miss much from the larger narrative. If his two X books are selling well while he sticks in the Beast and Mikhail corner, there's really no reason to mess with that.
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Nov 10, 2023 10:22
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The only nitpick I really have about the Wolverine/X-Force run by Percy is the issue or two about Wolverine loving surfing. Logan killed Daken in a puddle when Daken was still an evil poo poo. Wolverine shouldn't be able to swim. He's got a metal coated skeleton! 
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Lucifunk posted:The only nitpick I really have about the Wolverine/X-Force run by Percy is the issue or two about Wolverine loving surfing. Logan killed Daken in a puddle when Daken was still an evil poo poo. Wolverine shouldn't be able to swim. He's got a metal coated skeleton! The thrill of danger is what makes him like it so much!
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I do not want to forgive Sinister, no
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After reading issues here and there I decided to sit down and finally read the Krakoa era from the beginning (well, the parts I want to, which is mainly Hickman X-Men and New Mutants + major events). I just finished all of X of Swords and I thought it was a super fun, blockbuster X-story. I remember hearing lots of people didn’t like it at the time, and I’m sure the 500+ page epic reads better when you can sit down and enjoy it over a couple days and not 6 months. But it’s got great character moments, pretty amazing art all the way through. I thought it was cool that it focused on some less central characters of the X-Universe (really, Wolverine and Storm are only supporting characters here), and had great twists and turns. I had a really good time reading it! X of Swords good!!!
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Conrad_Birdie posted:After reading issues here and there I decided to sit down and finally read the Krakoa era from the beginning (well, the parts I want to, which is mainly Hickman X-Men and New Mutants + major events). I just finished all of X of Swords and I thought it was a super fun, blockbuster X-story. I remember hearing lots of people didn’t like it at the time, and I’m sure the 500+ page epic reads better when you can sit down and enjoy it over a couple days and not 6 months. But it’s got great character moments, pretty amazing art all the way through. I thought it was cool that it focused on some less central characters of the X-Universe (really, Wolverine and Storm are only supporting characters here), and had great twists and turns. I had a really good time reading it! X of Swords good!!! As a rule the second story, the one we actually got, is more appealing to me and I liked it. I'm not saying there aren't other reasons not to have enjoyed it, but a lot of the contemporary response seemed to be WHEN ARE WE GETTING TO THE SWORD TOURNAMENT?
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it also doesn't help that one of the central characters in it was Saturnyne, a character nobody will ever see and not immediately think "why is Emma Frost doing this?"
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Yeah the “Swords” ended up being a lot less important than originally advertised, which was interesting. In a weird way I enjoyed that there was this biiiiiig dramatic buildup to a sword battle and then it was more comedic fuckery by an Otherwordly being. Definitely deflating, but it kinda underscored the futility of fighting with what are essentially gods. They’re going to do whatever they want and you don’t have much say in it, life is absurd, just go with it.
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Nov 10, 2023 23:25
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I binged that and loved it to death. Magik loving up the spelling of 'magic' because she automatically went for her superhero name was hilarious. My only complaint is that we should have gotten full issues for the dance contest and the fashion show trial.
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Conrad_Birdie posted:After reading issues here and there I decided to sit down and finally read the Krakoa era from the beginning (well, the parts I want to, which is mainly Hickman X-Men and New Mutants + major events). I just finished all of X of Swords and I thought it was a super fun, blockbuster X-story. I remember hearing lots of people didn’t like it at the time, and I’m sure the 500+ page epic reads better when you can sit down and enjoy it over a couple days and not 6 months. But it’s got great character moments, pretty amazing art all the way through. I thought it was cool that it focused on some less central characters of the X-Universe (really, Wolverine and Storm are only supporting characters here), and had great twists and turns. I had a really good time reading it! X of Swords good!!! I thought X of Swords was great at the time, the pacing was a bit weird, but once the tournament itself started it was just amazing. And I will die for Doug's large wife.
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Sephyr posted:I binged that and loved it to death. Magik loving up the spelling of 'magic' because she automatically went for her superhero name was hilarious. I just like to think Magik thinks that’s actually how magic is spelled. I love her, but she’s not the brightest Also a big fan of Doug’s large wife
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Air Skwirl posted:And I will die for Doug's large wife. Conrad_Birdie posted:Also a big fan of Doug’s large wife I think you may be some of the only people who remember she even exists. That poor character got dropped faster than any newer character that weren't from Children of the Atom.
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Saoshyant posted:I think you may be some of the only people who remember she even exists. That poor character got dropped faster than any newer character that weren't from Children of the Atom. She was in Knights of X, I expect either Duggan or Ewing to remember she exists.
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It's complicated because Doug is Krakoa's wife and Krakoa has him in an organic panic room.
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Everyone talks about Jean having two husbands, but no one talks about doug being married to large wife, krakoa, and warlock
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site posted:Everyone talks about Jean having two husbands, but no one talks about doug being married to large wife, krakoa, and warlock Jean has a husband and a boyfriend
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Speaking of which, are Scott and Jean actually married at the moment (ignoring the fact that she's presently dead/incorporeal)? How does marriage work when your spouse comes back to life after 13 years? Is is just automatically back on, do you have to renew your vows, or do you have to go through the whole process again?
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Air Skwirl posted:Jean has a husband and a boyfriend Her husband’s girlfriend might be there sometimes, too
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Her husband’s girlfriend might be there sometimes, too I don't know if they ever showed Emma on the moon or in the treehouse.
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Air Skwirl posted:Jean has a husband and a boyfriend Rude to say Scott's only her bf
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Rochallor posted:Speaking of which, are Scott and Jean actually married at the moment (ignoring the fact that she's presently dead/incorporeal)? How does marriage work when your spouse comes back to life after 13 years? Is is just automatically back on, do you have to renew your vows, or do you have to go through the whole process again? They both died so it washes out and makes them married again. But yeah they are actually married. I think the only thing that matters is if they consider themselves to be so, which they do.
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Rochallor posted:Speaking of which, are Scott and Jean actually married at the moment (ignoring the fact that she's presently dead/incorporeal)? How does marriage work when your spouse comes back to life after 13 years? Is is just automatically back on, do you have to renew your vows, or do you have to go through the whole process again? I'm picturing a scene where Professor X goes into the county office to file a death certificate and the person just rolls their eyes at him.
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danbanana posted:It's complicated because Doug is Krakoa's wife and Krakoa has him in an organic panic room. I love comics Rick posted:I'm picturing a scene where Professor X goes into the county office to file a death certificate and the person just rolls their eyes at him. Yeah right he mindwipes that person every time. For Chuck to be able to still run a school that has a military jet and gets violently attacked each week he's constantly mindwiping a large swath of people Synesthesian Fetish fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Nov 12, 2023 |
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"Actually you don't want to do nuclear armageddon" -Good ol' Chuck X
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Alaois posted:it also doesn't help that one of the central characters in it was Saturnyne, a character nobody will ever see and not immediately think "why is Emma Frost doing this?"
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Nessus posted:Saturnyne has done deep cover disguises before. With a properly powered telepathy device she could absolutely replace Emma. Who's gonna notice, Tony Stark? yeah og excalibur had me feeling a little confused on the whole courtney ross thing
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hope and vaseline posted:yeah og excalibur had me feeling a little confused on the whole courtney ross thing I think it confused Claremont and Alan Davis too, because there's definitely issues that seem like the writers had forgotten that she wasn't the original Courtney Ross, but was actually an evil doppelganger.
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I love the Davis Excalibur, but in the lead up to #50, easily one of the best X-Men issues of all time, yeah there is a blatant scene where he remembers in real time that that's not Courtney Ross and does some half-assed patch job.
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It's my understanding that a lot of Davis' initial solo run on Excalibur was him picking up all of Claremont's dropped plot threads.
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glitchwraith posted:It's my understanding that a lot of Davis' initial solo run on Excalibur was him picking up all of Claremont's dropped plot threads. Given how much he drew of Claremont's run on Excalibur, and I think they were still working in a more collaborative style, a good chunk of those dropped plots thread were one's Alan Davis had a hand in creating in the first place.
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Has anyone been reading Predator vs Wolverine? I love Predator and Wolverine, but haven't been able to make it to a shop in a while for health reasons. Wondering if it's worth ordering online, or wait on a trade.
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Conrad_Birdie posted:I just like to think Magik thinks that’s actually how magic is spelled. I love her, but she’s not the brightest You wouldn't be great at spelling either if, instead of going to elementary and middle school, you went to hell. Her spelling's probably fine in enochian runes or archaic fel-latin or whatever.
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Children of the Vault would be the perfect series if only it was longer. The fact that there's not like twenty more issues of Cable and Bishop being cantankerous dicks-slash-magnificent bastards to everyone, including themselves, is a travesty. On the flip side: I've been waiting about twenty fuckin' years to see the thing that finally happened in the final part of the Jean Grey issue this week, and there was also a bunch of heartfelt, good writing in here. But...realistically...this story could've been like two issues, tops.  Realistically, all this stuff could've (and probably should've) just happened in Immortal X-Men.Some good stuff in the other books, too. Dark, Uncanny, and Icemen all had stride-hitting momets...But man, there were some real fuckin' lengthy thesis papers in the datapages this week. All these paragraphs after paragraphs of wordvomits hit real hard when you're reading one book after the other, at some point I just started zoning them out.
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