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Vengarr posted:Two arrests for DUIs help sustain the persistent stories that he was a heavy drinker his whole career, including the puking-in-the-huddle Super Bowl 39 incident (and the lesser-known “Freddie Mitchell had to call plays because McNabb was mumbling like a drunk” story) that have been attested to by several teammates. He was known for having conditioning problems for the length of his career and for not watching tape, both of which were managed in Philly but were really exposed in Washington. I would expect the mumbling like a drunk in the huddle might have been more likely concussion related.
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Flikken posted:I would expect the mumbling like a drunk in the huddle might have been more likely concussion related. yeah both of those stories are from late in games so unless he was spiking his Gatorade I don't think he was getting drunker as the game went on
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I’m pretty sure he also copped to going out and partying in the lead up to the game, which is part of the reason why the story about being drunk or hungover vs taking a big hit and puking on the sidelines had persisted for so long.
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Asproigerosis posted:Is McNabb hall of fame??? https://i.imgur.com/wlk0eKU.gifv
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I love Donovan McNabb because he gave me this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1PzZ3OgzOU And subsequently this  All on the same day, what a treat
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he threw a touchdown on that play
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https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/8/31/23849047/how-many-quarterbacks-would-you-trade-daniel-jones-for-ny-giants
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"In -tan-gi-bles!" they chant, of the 1,500 most roided-out, physically destructive humans on earth
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"Ya know, these boys really need a frumpy doofus in gym shorts to hoarsely shout platitudes at them to Really Succeed." - fat guy from northeast, talking about guys who were motivated, coached, talented and driven enough to become the top .0001% of athletes in the entire world
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beep by grandpa posted:blarzgh. Grandpa
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blarzgh posted:"Ya know, these boys really need a frumpy doofus in gym shorts to hoarsely shout platitudes at them to Really Succeed." That's not what people are saying. Empty platitudes are whatever, that's old school intangible talk which was thinly coded for acted like a good little employee and is Christian or some other stupid bullshit. Actual intangibles are like: Works well with others Will listen and accept criticism Will look to aim to progress talents These are things that a lot of naturally talented people can skate right past all through high school and college. You kind of need these assets to work any job so that's what scouts, I assume, usually look for during the interviews. Examples are how Zach Wilson is perceived by his team or the change in attitude with the Raiders between McDaniels and Pierce.
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I'm just grateful the annual unhinged rant isn't about Dak for once. Finally changing things up a bit
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Look at all these players Intangibling their way to a superbowl, wow truly inspirational
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blarzgh posted:Grandpa Hope you and the fam are having a great Friday 
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My least favorite McNabb moment https://youtu.be/eFGSaYLXrg8?si=B4lyyz9C95PqzIU0
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*Kevin Harlan voice* the guy is DRUNK!
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Remember when Osi Umenyiora sacked McNabb like 7 times in one game by himself?
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davecrazy posted:Remember when Osi Umenyiora sacked McNabb like 7 times in one game by himself? The Winston Justice game.
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Chris James 2 posted:I'm just grateful the annual unhinged rant isn't about Dak for once. Finally changing things up a bit Wait for their inevitable hilarious loss to San Francisco in the playoffs where Dak recreates the Buttfumble step for step.
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beep by grandpa posted:Hope you and the fam are having a great Friday Thanks bud You too!
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Does blazrgh know Eli manning existed? Or did he just go into a coma during that era of football.
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Asproigerosis posted:Does blazrgh know Eli manning existed? Or did he just go into a coma during that era of football. What was his intangibles, the ability to make full sentences without inflating the soft spot on his head
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I'm genuinely baffled by this. Is the assertion that, because you can't measure a quality like leadership or the ability to be taught, it doesn't impact the output on the field? And I guess the follow-up would be: If intangibles don't exist, are the qualities associated with them actually measurable? Are those qualities just fabrications that can be explained away with more complex metrics?
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Toaster Beef posted:I'm genuinely baffled by this. Is the assertion that, because you can't measure a quality like leadership or the ability to be taught, it doesn't impact the output on the field? And I guess the follow-up would be: If intangibles don't exist, are the qualities associated with them actually measurable? Are those qualities just fabrications that can be explained away with more complex metrics? Yeah I thought someone in this thread (or maybe another thread?) posted about this recently, but I cant find it to quote them, so here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McNamara_fallacy quote:The McNamara fallacy (also known as the quantitative fallacy),[1] named for Robert McNamara, the US Secretary of Defense from 1961 to 1968, involves making a decision based solely on quantitative observations (or metrics) and ignoring all others. The reason given is often that these other observations cannot be proven.
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Blarzgh doesn't believe in anything that can't be measured, and believes in many things that shouldn't be empirically measured.
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Doltos posted:Blarzgh doesn't believe in anything that can't be measured, and believes in many things that shouldn't be empirically measured. Honestly, Tommy DeVito probably has 5 or 6 more intangibles than Danny Dimes, so I'm expecting big things tomorrow
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Watching Stat people have meltdowns over messy human emotions they cant measure will never not be hilarious The day Eli makes the hall of fame is going to be spreadsheet dork 9/11
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I never really believed in sports psychology either but that was before realizing it's just another form of poo poo they teach you in education programs. It's easy to divorce yourself from emotions with sports and think these guys are all automaton athletes that work non stop all day every day. I also used to frame that in thinking that everyone was equivalent to the high schoolers I played with. There are legitimate athletes out there that don't try at all and are still amazing. Bigger, better, faster, stronger, all those things. What really got me was seeing those athletes in a D3 setting. The difference between them and D1 a lot of times are those intangibles that I used to roll my eyes at. Like having self-motivation is an intangible. Being able to be coached is an intangible. Handling pressure is an intangible. You can't measure it but it's absolutely important.
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I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of the greatest players of all time seem psychotic in certain ways. Jordan, Brady, Rodgers, all of them have a weird confirmed competitive streak where they will even make up slights just to drive them further You can't coach that, that's not measurable thing, it's not even something most other players at the professional level will have to such a degree.
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Doltos posted:That's not what people are saying. Empty platitudes are whatever, that's old school intangible talk which was thinly coded for acted like a good little employee and is Christian or some other stupid bullshit.
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Febreeze posted:The day Eli makes the hall of fame is going to be spreadsheet dork 9/11 I committed years ago to making sure I'll take that day off if I'm working it when it's announced. This is one of at least 3 different sites I view that will have live, intense meltdowns from people who each deserve it, and I don't wanna miss a drat second of it 
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Febreeze posted:I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of the greatest players of all time seem psychotic in certain ways. Jordan, Brady, Rodgers, all of them have a weird confirmed competitive streak where they will even make up slights just to drive them further That's just sociopathy. Intangible maybe, but diagnosable.
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