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NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Pararoid posted:

I'm really on the fence about this one; there are some horror stories in Steam reviews. Is there any hope of being a squad of 4-5 friends playing for an hour or so and actually doing something other than skirmishing on the front lines?

You can get quite a bit done with a reliable squad. It's quite easy to make a stockpile of vehicles and a base for your crew if everyone pitches in. You don't even need to go that far as right now on Charlie shard players are manufacturing gunboats and armored cars and handing them out to whoever wants to crew them for example.

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Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


It’s quite easy to do more than skirmishing if you’re in an active squad. Just join the discord and you’ll have a significantly different experience than the average steam reviewer.

Last night for example I jumped on for a little over an hour, and happened to get on right as some goons running gunboats were refueling. I got on one of those and got to putz around shooting at poo poo for a little bit. As the war advances and vehicles / boats become more common, this sort of vehicle-based “pick-up team ops” will be as well.

If that hadn’t been happening, I probably would have just gone and skirmished for a bit. I find it to be reasonably fun, and if I get sick of whatever front I just go to a different one. Bridge battles vs frontline land pushes vs island areas differ significantly enough that you’ll have a different experience (dying horribly) at each one, even if you’re just skirmishing.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Pararoid posted:

I'm really on the fence about this one; there are some horror stories in Steam reviews. Is there any hope of being a squad of 4-5 friends playing for an hour or so and actually doing something other than skirmishing on the front lines?

Mind you your one hour of partisan/skirmishing/trucking won't win the war by itself, but this was never in the cards. Just make sure you're in the right mindset otherwise you can get demoralized easily by playing for an hour and making a big push with a bunch of other folks, then coming back the next day to see that the front has moved in the other direction and all that ground you took was lost.

Some people don't react well to that. You're one or five oarsmen on the ship, out of several hundred. Go out there and make sure some of the other guy's oarsmen have a bad time. If your actions cause the collies to spend resources dealing with you, you've contributed to the war effort by diverting and consuming those resources, forcing their logistics to bear more weight, and eroding morale. Enough people do this over several weeks, and some part of the enemy war machine fails and we win.

Foxhole is, to me, about the fantasy of being a tiny part of a much larger whole and chipping in wherever you can. It's the same fantasy I scratched with EVE Online, just with less time commitment and less need to tolerate insufferable people.

Green man bad.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Foxhole is a game where a squad of people can easily have a significant input by doing actual organized pushes either in an undefended area away from main fighting, or coordinating and actually breaking defenses in areas early/mid war in heavily contested areas.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Warmachine posted:

Mind you your one hour of partisan/skirmishing/trucking won't win the war by itself, but this was never in the cards. Just make sure you're in the right mindset otherwise you can get demoralized easily by playing for an hour and making a big push with a bunch of other folks, then coming back the next day to see that the front has moved in the other direction and all that ground you took was lost.

Some people don't react well to that. You're one or five oarsmen on the ship, out of several hundred. Go out there and make sure some of the other guy's oarsmen have a bad time. If your actions cause the collies to spend resources dealing with you, you've contributed to the war effort by diverting and consuming those resources, forcing their logistics to bear more weight, and eroding morale. Enough people do this over several weeks, and some part of the enemy war machine fails and we win.

Foxhole is, to me, about the fantasy of being a tiny part of a much larger whole and chipping in wherever you can. It's the same fantasy I scratched with EVE Online, just with less time commitment and less need to tolerate insufferable people.

Green man bad.

I had to internalize this as a part of the zen of combat engineering. Sure I can spend my time building a field of turrets and trenches and stuff and it gets blown up literally as I am building it, but that means they're paying attention to me and not the guy on the other side of the screen looking to bayonet them upside the head. And if they pay attention to him instead, well, I got a turret built and now they've gotta deal with that. I'll trade my bmats for your explosives all day 'erry day.

Hell I had one infantry push where the squad commander complimented me because I was constantly attempting to build turrets but never had any success at it. Hardly even made it past the blueprint stage most times (which is free, incidentally, so not even consuming bmats.) The collies were always shooting at the blueprints to discourage me and giving away their positions at night. The assaulting squad loved me doing that because they knew where to blindly chuck a grenade without revealing themselves and get free kills, weakening the defensive forces for every push and chewing up shirts. With teamwork and a hammer I was part of tearing their asses up.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Just take the leap drop into the discord and ask questions/play with our current active crowd of goons.

We got logistics and we got facility building going on if you want to not get sucked into the black hole of the janky combat.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Pararoid posted:

I'm really on the fence about this one; there are some horror stories in Steam reviews. Is there any hope of being a squad of 4-5 friends playing for an hour or so and actually doing something other than skirmishing on the front lines?

You can destroy multiple hours/days of someone's work with a good partisan run.

In other games, that's griefing. In Foxhole, it's core gameplay.

That said, you really need to join the discord and get some vets to help you. Foxhole is *not* intuitive at all, so you will likely just end up frustrated if you try to bust through the noob stages alone.

That and you need clan tags because everyone will assume a no/low rank doing something dumb is an alt and get mad. Clan tags of an established clan will give you some leeway.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

You can have a good time in thirty or forty five minutes, just spawn in wherever there’s a fight, grab a medkit and bandages, and become the dorky bike medic that won’t stop ringing the loving bike bell.

Or you can salvage at the front. That’s an under-appreciated activity that can absolutely make an impact.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Also like someone said, there is something immensely satisfying with loading up a truck of supplies that are needed at the front and getting them there on time and on target. I like putting on podcasts whenever I do that.


Alternatively, it's also immensely satisfying when you play partisan and blow up supply trucks/impede the flow of supplies.

The discord is good too.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Handsome Ralph posted:

Also like someone said, there is something immensely satisfying with loading up a truck of supplies that are needed at the front and getting them there on time and on target. I like putting on podcasts whenever I do that.


Alternatively, it's also immensely satisfying when you play partisan and blow up supply trucks/impede the flow of supplies.

The discord is good too.

I spent 8 hours in the single war I played for driving up and down the same road to the same front hauling shirts, green ash, and bullets while drinking caffeine like a real life trucker.

I don't know if I should call it fun or not, but I definitely felt impactful because every time I arrived, we were still hanging on by a thread so I felt as though I couldn't quit because if I don't do it who will deliver the shirts? :shepface:

MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
https://www.pcgamer.com/war-mmo-pla...ash-the-server/

For a little context the devs gave every town hall & relic base in the game 2,500 shirts (spawn tickets) along with 10k rifles & 10k ammo in anticipation of the surge of players. This is up from the normal 1k of each. This fight took place on an isolated island in the middle of one of the redone water hexes.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
Is this the same foxhole thats on sale atm?

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

ZeusCannon posted:

Is this the same foxhole thats on sale atm?

Yup! 33% off is quite a deal

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
And this has goons who play regularly? That does seem to be the hurdle in that if you arent in a group it might be overwhelming etc

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

ZeusCannon posted:

And this has goons who play regularly? That does seem to be the hurdle in that if you arent in a group it might be overwhelming etc

There are indeed regular shenanigans. I think last night was Goonbote, though I didn't join. I just wanted to fart around so I spent most of the night frustrating an entire collie assault by repairing a rifle bunker over and over.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
Ill pick it up. Its been tempting me for long enough. Is there a steam group or discord i should join if i want to play with goons?

And goons play on the warden side?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
We have a Discord it should be in the OP and yes we're Wardens on Able.

RocketRaygun
Nov 7, 2015



ZeusCannon posted:

Ill pick it up. Its been tempting me for long enough. Is there a steam group or discord i should join if i want to play with goons?

And goons play on the warden side?

Yeah, we have over 120 active players in the clan. It's a big turnout.

We're either gonna do boat ops tonight or arty ops. I haven't decided which.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
During this war Roy will be attempting US time zone friendly events on thursdays and saturdays if you want to roll in full force with other goons those are the times to show up.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I think I have a problem, combat engineering stuff is fun for me. I've spent the last three days making our side of a bridge a hideous death trap slog of fortifications for collies to chew through and beat their head against before even getting to Crab RanGOON, or making them trade a ton of 120mm ammo for bmats. Our record a few days ago was 5 pallets of 120mm against our side of the bridge before giving up. Just nobody tell them they had the BB core at 3% once.

And I've enjoyed it.

I only ever carry a pistol with no ammo reloads because I want the weight for more bmats, shooting at someone myself means things have gone horribly wrong. All my lethality is idiot collies trying to dive in to trenches before getting fly-papered on barbed wire and perforated by machinegun pillboxes or standing around afraid to move up and get ventilated by another rifle garrison before someone else throws a grenade on their head. It's this weird zen of combat where I'm spending more time dealing with the ebb and flow of fighting than paying attention to any actual individual fight.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
It is fun, until low pop has the collies pve all your hard work at 3am. But it’s an update war so that might not happen for awhile.

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


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Dinosaur Gum
Asian TZ has a couple of East Asian Warden clans going so this is much less of an issue than before, though there’s definitely occasional red eye ops (we do them too).

The blank squad (so named because they just appear as a blank space in the squad list) have a variety of time zones represented and has single-handedly been the bane of colonial locomotives, battle tanks and super heavy tanks. If you have a poorly secured facility, odds are we’ve scouted out the back lines and planned out as tortuitous a route as necessary to get either infantry with cutler launchers or a whole rear end light tank to blow up your crap. War 102 we celebrated clearing 100+ locomotives in a single war (as well as four giant rail cannons, two dozen battle tanks and one or two storm cannon bunkers).

RocketRaygun
Nov 7, 2015



bird food bathtub posted:

I think I have a problem, combat engineering stuff is fun for me. I've spent the last three days making our side of a bridge a hideous death trap slog of fortifications for collies to chew through and beat their head against before even getting to Crab RanGOON, or making them trade a ton of 120mm ammo for bmats. Our record a few days ago was 5 pallets of 120mm against our side of the bridge before giving up. Just nobody tell them they had the BB core at 3% once.

And I've enjoyed it.

I only ever carry a pistol with no ammo reloads because I want the weight for more bmats, shooting at someone myself means things have gone horribly wrong. All my lethality is idiot collies trying to dive in to trenches before getting fly-papered on barbed wire and perforated by machinegun pillboxes or standing around afraid to move up and get ventilated by another rifle garrison before someone else throws a grenade on their head. It's this weird zen of combat where I'm spending more time dealing with the ebb and flow of fighting than paying attention to any actual individual fight.

Allow me to teach you the way of the T2 Gate. T2 Gates are very long, have an absurd hitpoint value for their bmat cost, and are built with a CV so you can make like 30 of them with one load of bmats. You can just make a massive fuckoff wall of them across a front. Enemies cannot open the gates, but friendlies can, protecting you from collie infantry doing anything at all to your push.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
t2 gates own, always build t2 gates unless you have a very specific corner requirement or somesuch

bird food bathtub posted:

I think I have a problem, combat engineering stuff is fun for me.

not a problem, you're playing correctly, IMO

building poo poo is so good in this game precisely because you know you're trading a funny low amounts of raw scrap and time to absolutely destroy the morale of a hundred people and it feels like you're doing it single-handedly :v:

Krataar
Sep 13, 2011

Drums in the deep

Posting in case I need to get into GOON by posting in thread.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Krataar posted:

Posting in case I need to get into GOON by posting in thread.

I can get you in, but there's a registration fee I'll need you to venmo me.

Krataar
Sep 13, 2011

Drums in the deep

Ok, I'll contract all my ships over, just dont blow me up in null

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.


Nature finds a way.

RocketRaygun
Nov 7, 2015



Lol collies are losing the hex that has never been taken by wardens, Sableport. This is about to go _really_ bad for them.

Luitpold
Aug 2, 2009
Talking of excrement ...
Now is a very good time for newbies to get in on the game, unlike in other games the goons in Foxhole will help newbies rather than act like petulant shitlords.

We've been cockblocking one of the biggest tryhard colonial regiments the entire war.... the whole front we are responsible for hasn't shifted at all this whole war and its a never ending bloodbath. Wardens are also making history in other fronts, taking places never before conquered in any of the previous 107 wars. You're gonna see stuff go down that might not happen again for a long time.

Luitpold fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Nov 8, 2023

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
I've been playing as Collies on charlie shard and as newbies don't know how to fortify and hold ground properly it's became a stale mate going back and forth across the same dozen towns or so.

Pararoid
Dec 6, 2005

Te Waipounamu pride
Thanks for the replies. I missed the sale so I'll be grabbing it next time it's discounted.

Luitpold
Aug 2, 2009
Talking of excrement ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ79i11JSnU

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
It seems the stalemate is over now the Deadlands is back in our factions hands and we're pushing south at last, the GOON base at Outwich has held fantastically well. Props to our builders and logistics goons for the last few days.

RocketRaygun
Nov 7, 2015





Goons learned how to post in game. We laid out barbed wire that says "Skill Issue" in the no man's land between us and a major collie base after a 9 and a half hour long siege yesterday.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
Goons are currently massively fortified and holding the front line in outwich ranch in Linn of Mercy. In front of us are 15 enemy storm cannons, the biggest artillery in the game that can shoot between hexes and devastate basically anything, and behind us are 22 friendly storm cannons. There’s gonna be some fireworks in a few days, it’s gonna be a blast.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


There would be 18 enemy storm cannons, but Goons destroyed the drying concrete pads of three under-construction cannons last night. :smug:

KlavoHunter
Aug 4, 2006
"Intelligence indicates that our enemy is using giant cathedral ships. Research divison reports that we can adapt this technology for our use. Begin researching giant cathedral ships immediately."
Colonials sailed a Destroyer up the river past Fort Duncan while we were already preparing a gunboat operation to help escort our allies KRGG moving up a brand-new 150mm artillery piece.

They got goonswarmed by kamikaze gunboats, enjoy the show!

Also, silly pirate streamer guy was back, he led an entire tank column up this tiny little goat path around our base.... that we had stuffed full of mines 30-40 deep.

KlavoHunter fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Nov 12, 2023

ragnarokette
Oct 7, 2021
Is there a way to watch the Big New Shiny Cannon Thing when it happens as a new player that will actually be interesting and won't get me shot for being a spai? I'm new and not really sure what's going on besides turning that peninsula into a parking lot at some point.

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Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum
Usually there’ll be a lot of players in support roles nowhere near the big booms, but spotters will be streaming their screens in discord so you can have a PIP or a second screen giving you the funny boom boom.

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