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GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Unperson_47 posted:

Open Enrollment is the Scholastic book fair except instead of getting Garfield joke books, it's the whole system that's the joke.

Those Scholastic Book Fairs introduced me to Calvin and Hobbes. Open enrollment just introduces me to some arcane poo poo that will ultimately result in me surprise paying through the roof if anything really bad actually happens to me.

America's healthcare system is so bad.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Tree Bucket posted:

I don't know what open enrolment is, but I'm going to guess it's an obtuse and expensive process overseen by capricious invisible bureaucrats whereby "things don't get worse, at least" is the best and also least likely outcome
e: also if you get it wrong, your doctor visits now cost $3,000

Yeah. It's deciding what healthcare plan you want with no foreknowledge of what you healthcare needs will be beyond already having a spouse or a kid. As a single man with no dependents unlikely to need healthcare, the cheapest options are like $100 bucks a month and if you actually need a doctor for something you're hosed. If you have family you need to also to get healthcare for, it's a lot more money and if you chose the wrong one you are also completely hosed if they get seriously ill.

American Healthcare has to be the worst system of healthcare in what's generally described as a first world country. Every single country anyone would describe as a first world country you are more likely to live and not go bankrupt if you get cancer.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

That is actually the US cost without insurance (if you go to a clinic and not the ER)! I have been doing billing for corneal ophthalmology for a decade. Mild keratitis is like two office visits and some fancy artificial tears. It shouldn't financially ruin you.

Anyone who bought a Bored Ape NFT and held onto it is pretty much an ambulant moneyhole, stumbling onto crazy new methods of wasting insane amounts of money which defies comprehension is their entire MO

Honestly it'd be a lot weirder if the story was "There was an incident at a party for Bored Ape NFT owners but everyone made sensible and financially responsible decisions about the outcome and found an effective solution which was well within their budget"

Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 09:58 on Nov 11, 2023

cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001

Tree Bucket posted:

I kind of feel compelled to post this message whenever US healthcare comes up, but: I'd like to validate the rage and dread you feel as a result of living in america. Your healthcare system is the worst in the world, and is a literal tool of Satan. Anyone telling you otherwise is a soulless ghoul. The rest of the planet looks on your bizarre vampiric system with mingled pity and dread. It doesn't have to be this way

Also that last video is fantastic

Hey now, it's not the worst healthcare system per se.

Because it's more of a profit extraction system with healthcare being an unwanted by-product....

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

cult_hero posted:

Because it's more of a profit extraction system with healthcare being an unwanted by-product....

There's a great phrase which goes "The Purpose Of A System Is What It Does" which is often a really helpful way of making sense of how certain aspects of life are so consistently hosed up

quote:

Stafford Beer, British theorist, consultant, and professor at the Manchester Business School, coined and frequently used the phrase “The purpose of a system is what it does” (POSIWID) to explain that the observed purpose of a system is often at odds with the intentions of those who design, operate, and promote it. For example, applying POSIWID, one might ask if the purpose of an education system is to help children grow into well-rounded individuals, or is it to train them to pass tests? “There is after all,” Beer observed, “no point in claiming that the purpose of a system is to do what it constantly fails to do.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

That is actually the US cost without insurance (if you go to a clinic and not the ER)! I have been doing billing for corneal ophthalmology for a decade. Mild keratitis is like two office visits and some fancy artificial tears. It shouldn't financially ruin you.

I have (Maybe) chronic eye problems so I go to the specialist eye hospital every month or so for eye injections. So I really feel for the guy in this situation. I can't imagine how much worse the whole thing would have been if it had costed me a single dollar far less a couple hundred.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Lack of health insurance only kills like fifty thousand Americans per year.

Americans put up with cars crashes and guns separately each killing the same number. Why wouldn’t they put up with the insurance system?

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Aramoro posted:

eye injections

eye injections

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Tree Bucket posted:

eye injections

Remembering that one goon in some old TCC thread who thought 'eyeballing a dose' meant actually taking the drug through your eye somehow. And was asking for advice on how to do it :gonk:

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Tree Bucket posted:

eye injections

Yeah, I have to look at my toes and the doctor injects something through the side of my eyeball into the middle. They put lots of drops in my eye first but it's not amazing.

Theres lots of things where people say it's not as bad as you think. This is pretty much as bad as you think.

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


if you take an infinite amount of monkeys and put them in a room full of dangerous UV lights then in an infinite amount of time one of them will almost surely be cured of his eye disease and not need health insurance

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Tree Bucket posted:

eye injections

He doesn't have enough eyes so they inject more into him.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

There's a great phrase which goes "The Purpose Of A System Is What It Does" which is often a really helpful way of making sense of how certain aspects of life are so consistently hosed up

Pwoah


Thanks for putting words to this.

AKZ
Nov 5, 2009

Ror posted:

if you take an infinite amount of monkeys apes and put them in a room full of dangerous UV lights then in an infinite amount of time one of them will almost surely be cured of his eye disease and not need health insurance

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Aramoro posted:

I have (Maybe) chronic eye problems so I go to the specialist eye hospital every month or so for eye injections. So I really feel for the guy in this situation. I can't imagine how much worse the whole thing would have been if it had costed me a single dollar far less a couple hundred.

Oh hey eye injections bud :shepicide:

Mine are more like every three months at least. Isn't it fun how one painful injection even if all the rest were fine can make you anxious forever for all the next injections.

There's something real lovely about 'ok keep your eye still and look straight up at the needle, better not move it!!' with no real idea if this time it'll hurt like the bejeesus or not.

Pseudohog
Apr 4, 2007
I'm now imagining that scene from Dead Space 2

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021
Ah yes this is what I come to this thread for. An entire page and no content

https://i.imgur.com/a1HzwKV.mp4

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
He lost so badly he disintegrated

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
The best part about getting beaten by one of the only two cards that can be drawn to beat you is that it's just under a 5% chance and purely luck, which means it's the high stakes version of rolling a crit failure on a d20

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



I like the table shake as the dealer slides the nine over

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

Sentient Data posted:

The best part about getting beaten by one of the only two cards that can be drawn to beat you is that it's just under a 5% chance and purely luck, which means it's the high stakes version of rolling a crit failure on a d20

I love how you tried to break down something niche by comparing to something equally niche

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

caspergers posted:

I love how you tried to break down something niche by comparing to something equally niche

It's like seeing an anti-cyclonic EF-2 in the northern hemisphere.

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

Takes No Damage posted:

Remembering that one goon in some old TCC thread who thought 'eyeballing a dose' meant actually taking the drug through your eye somehow. And was asking for advice on how to do it :gonk:

yeah, i love it when strangers on the internet expose themselves as doing something in an insane way that nobody would consider even halfway reasonable

Serotoning
Sep 14, 2010

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
HANG 'EM HIGH


We're fighting human animals and we act accordingly

Sentient Data posted:

The best part about getting beaten by one of the only two cards that can be drawn to beat you is that it's just under a 5% chance and purely luck, which means it's the high stakes version of rolling a crit failure on a d20

does poker use some kind of sleeve of cards to prevent, I dunno, card counting? and if not do they bust out a new deck of cards every hand?

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

Pvt. Parts posted:

does poker use some kind of sleeve of cards to prevent, I dunno, card counting? and if not do they bust out a new deck of cards every hand?

shuffle the deck after each hand and you're only going to see maximum five face up cards

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

Takes No Damage posted:

Remembering that one goon in some old TCC thread who thought 'eyeballing a dose' meant actually taking the drug through your eye somehow. And was asking for advice on how to do it :gonk:

Is this real because :lmao:

Fobby
Jun 28, 2023

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

That is actually the US cost without insurance (if you go to a clinic and not the ER)! I have been doing billing for corneal ophthalmology for a decade. Mild keratitis is like two office visits and some fancy artificial tears. It shouldn't financially ruin you.

Who in God's name wouldn't go to the ER in this situation? MYSTERY RADIATION WENT INTO THEIR EYES AND MADE THEM BLIND. TIME LOST IS EYES LOST.

Really, though, another problem with American Healthcare is that laymen get to try to preemptively estimate how bad their own critical health problems are so they can weigh the risks of permanent negative health outcomes versus horrifying debt. It's easy for insurance companies to tell you in retrospect that you should have chosen differently.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
Frankly I could be shot and I would go to an urgent care first. My insurance will flat out not pay for an er visit that doesn't result in hospital admission until the deductible is met, no coverage at all. Basically means setting foot in the ER will cost me like $4k since hospitals bilk the poo poo out of you

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

The fun part is when you go to the combination Urgent Care/ER and your trip "upgrades" from UC to ER without your knowledge.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

I used to work for a compounding pharmacy that supplied local hospitals and the markups were astounding. We moved 20,000 syringes of ondansetron daily which cost 15 cents to manufacture but the hospitals would gladly pay 15 dollars per syringe without batting an eye.

The whole industry was scams all the way down - say Hospira has the sole rights to produce a 60ml syringe of sodium bicarbonate solution, a compounding pharmacy could buy up all of a specific raw material that is required to produce it and would then gain the right to sell it at a considerable markup since it's considered an essential life-saving product.

I got out of there shortly before they killed 130 people and were shut down.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

bad_fmr posted:

Is this real because :lmao:

They were trying to eyeball phenazepam, a drug so potent a pinpoint's worth not pinhead's worth could gently caress you up, and they were trying to "eyeball the dose", by "putting the dose on their eyeball".

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
What if everyone just decided to not pay medical bills

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib

Fobby posted:

Who in God's name wouldn't go to the ER in this situation? MYSTERY RADIATION WENT INTO THEIR EYES AND MADE THEM BLIND. TIME LOST IS EYES LOST.

It also just occurred to me that Ape Fest was in Hong Kong, so who knows what it costs for an uninsured American to go to the ER in Hong Kong.

edit: I also have a skewed perspective on when a person would want to go to the ER with eye issues.

HelloIAmYourHeart has a new favorite as of 18:35 on Nov 11, 2023

Serotoning
Sep 14, 2010

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
HANG 'EM HIGH


We're fighting human animals and we act accordingly

derp posted:

What if everyone just decided to not pay medical bills

then people would stop being nurses, doctors, and scientists because it's hard and they are not doing it out of the goodness of their heart (sorry u had to find out this way)

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
A NASA astronaut dropped a tool bag while working on the ISS and it will be visible with binoculars for the next couple months.

https://earthsky.org/human-world/orbital-oopsy-a-tool-bag-is-now-orbiting-earth/

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Karate Bastard posted:

They were trying to eyeball phenazepam, a drug so potent a pinpoint's worth not pinhead's worth could gently caress you up, and they were trying to "eyeball the dose", by "putting the dose on their eyeball".

Dude was trying to put incredibly powerful benzos straight into his eyeballs? This is definitely the thread for that kinda story.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


LMAO if you think medical bills actually go to the doctors.

Like when some guy walks in the room and gives you a single shot and that shows up on your bill as Anesthetist Consult -$4000 Corzoraline Shot - $200 do you think that guy is actually getting $4000?

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

derp posted:

What if everyone just decided to not pay medical bills

Traxis
Jul 2, 2006

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...655881995_1.mp4

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bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

Karate Bastard posted:

They were trying to eyeball phenazepam, a drug so potent a pinpoint's worth not pinhead's worth could gently caress you up, and they were trying to "eyeball the dose", by "putting the dose on their eyeball".

No way. This is the funniest thing I have heard for a while. Is the thread goldmined by any chance?

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