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MikeCrotch posted:In response to the question about "why is Bryce supposed to be good" coming out - combo of arm talent and decision making plus in particular one of the best anticipation throwers as a prospect ever. Which is a problem when you're attempting to throw to guys who never actually get open so there's nothing to anticipate Bryce makes his mistakes as every rookie does, but I see a whole lot of it's 3rd and 9 because there's two failed runs - currently the run game is averagine 2.1 ypc 33 year old possession receiver, rookie possession receiver, 3rd year never will be possession receiver listing up field stride for stride with the corner on a year 2000 rear end route concept High angle shows no one close to open or seperating free rusher busts through the middle of the offensive line Bryce throws one as late as possible gets loving decked ball is in the air while the receiver isn't even in their break. Ball hits receiver in the hands and ends up in complete. Punt team trots out "MAN BRYCE SUCKS" in the thread.
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stolen from cian who i understand who that is but it doesn't matter in this case and i don't like posting tweets these days  lmao at the routes and players running them for the carolina panthers. simple as
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that sucks for the panthers and might end up being a leaf/manning kinda thing. even if stroud falls off and it's not that comparable, the resources to acquire bryce puts the team in a poo poo spot for a while. then after all of that it turns out the owner is impulsive and hands on in a bad way. it's bleak.
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Sour Diesel posted:that sucks for the panthers and might end up being a leaf/manning kinda thing. even if stroud falls off and it's not that comparable, the resources to acquire bryce puts the team in a poo poo spot for a while. then after all of that it turns out the owner is impulsive and hands on in a bad way. it's bleak. At least the Jags, Dolphins and Bengals realised they needed to fix their protection and get some receiver help and did so within two years for all three of their QBs. Remains to be seen if the Panthers are capable of doing anything close to that though.
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Cavauro posted:stolen from cian who i understand who that is but it doesn't matter in this case and i don't like posting tweets these days also the right guard is trying to make sure that even if there's a miracle there'll be an ineligible receiver downfield flag
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Not since the 1940s have Carolinans felt this much hatred for a Reich. He must be stopped.
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The Panthers offense is very bad, yes, but after watching both of them for multiple games now you can clearly see Stroud and Young are different tiers of quarterbacks.
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On Pardon the Interruption a few days ago, Wilbon and Kornheiser posed the question of if it was fair to compare Bryce Young and CJ Stroud, given their situations. They both said yes, and pointed out that Young was seemingly in a better situation than Stroud before the season started.
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If Billy jeans can survive the titans offensive line I think he’ll be pretty good next season
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Edward Mass posted:On Pardon the Interruption a few days ago, Wilbon and Kornheiser posed the question of if it was fair to compare Bryce Young and CJ Stroud, given their situations. while i would generally agree with the overall point, "the panthers were overrated to begin the season" doesn't seem like a particularly relevant argument.
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stroud hasn't beaten a good qb yet and doesn't face one this year. bryce has beaten the #1 or #2 mvp candidate. teams will have more digestible and easily adaptable film on stroud over the offseason. bryce hasn't been able to show his hand because of how the cards keep catching on fire, burning up, exploding, falling through the floorboards, melting, disintegrating, flash-eroding, dissolving, turning back into pure cellulose, etc. so he will remain a mystery going into year 2. advantage: don't know yet. i'm just fooling. i support giving the little fella time to level and gear up his heroes
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Ignoring the Bryce/STroud comparisons for a minute, when was the last time a rookie QB looked as good as Stroud? He looks like loving Peyton Manning back there, it’s wild.
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justin herbert was insane and got a "hey that's pretty good for a rookie" reaction to it for whatever reason. e: 4300 yards, 31 TDs + 5 rushing in 15 games
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Cavauro posted:stroud hasn't beaten a good qb yet and doesn't face one this year. bryce has beaten the #1 or #2 mvp candidate. teams will have more digestible and easily adaptable film on stroud over the offseason. bryce hasn't been able to show his hand because of how the cards keep catching on fire, burning up, exploding, falling through the floorboards, melting, disintegrating, flash-eroding, dissolving, turning back into pure cellulose, etc. so he will remain a mystery going into year 2. advantage: don't know yet. i'm just fooling. i support giving the little fella time to level and gear up his heroes Joe Burrow isn't a good QB?
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Didn't Mac Jones also loo great his rookie year
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He was good for a rookie but not in the same galaxy as how Stroud has played.
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Mac Jones was basically perfectly average his rookie year. Middle of the pack on basically every meaningful metric.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Ignoring the Bryce/STroud comparisons for a minute, when was the last time a rookie QB looked as good as Stroud? He looks like loving Peyton Manning back there, it’s wild. RG3
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whos that broooown posted:Joe Burrow isn't a good QB? i wish you would have gone on the ride of that impish little devilish little post
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Alaois posted:god RG3's rookie season ruled so much. FedEx field ruined RG3's career the way NRG field ruined Clowney's
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Doltos posted:RG3 Alaois posted:god RG3's rookie season ruled so much. RG3 did look incredible but he most electric as a runner, he had 2 300yd passing games. Stroud’s already got 4 of those. So in 14 games RG3 had 3200 yds passing, 20 passing TDs, 5 INTs, 65.6% completion, 815 yds rushing, and 7 Rushing TDs. So about 4,015 all purpose yards and 27 TDs. Yea Jesus that was a good year. Stroud in 9 games has 2626 yds passing, 15 passing TDs, 2 INTs, 61.6% completion, 86 yds rushing an 2 rushing TDs. So about 2700 total yds and 17 TDs in 5 less games. drat that’s actually going to be pretty close across a 14 game stretch but Stroud’s numbers will all be as a traditional drop back passer which gives me way more confidence in him long term.
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Cavauro posted:i wish you would have gone on the ride of that impish little devilish little post Saw enough and decided it wasn't for me
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Intruder posted:I don't really believe Stroud will win MVP but has any rookie ever done it before? Not since Jim Brown. Mahomes won it in his first year as a starter, but that was his second in the league.
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BlindSite posted:Tua might crack 5000 and 40+ TDs at his current rate. Him, Mahomes and Lamar are probably going to be hard to run down. The thing is, I don’t think anyone has really had a sure fire MVP season yet. Everyone has had enough bad games that I could see some dark horse pulling away with it in the later weeks
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I was reading an article about the Raiders new rookie QB and I came upon a little tidbit about our boy Brycequarterback trainer Jeff Christensen posted:Coming up to the line of scrimmage, one of the most impressive things is that [O’Connell] has been able to shift protections. That is such a key,” Fitz said. Source: https://www.raidersbeat.com/respected-qb-coach-once-said-aidan-oconnell-is-the-most-accurate-quarterback-he-has-ever-coached/
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It's cool that AOC can shift protections but dude needs to not take so many sacks. It's definitely him adjusting to the speed of the NFL and everything but aside from that he's been pretty okay so far. He's making mistakes for sure but dude is a 4th round rookie and he's learning on the fly. Better than Young so far anyway but he has much better weapons so who knows.
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Black Sunshine posted:It's cool that AOC can shift protections but dude needs to not take so many sacks. It's definitely him adjusting to the speed of the NFL and everything but aside from that he's been pretty okay so far. He's making mistakes for sure but dude is a 4th round rookie and he's learning on the fly. Better than Young so far anyway but he has much better weapons so who knows. Yeah, especially when it takes the team out of FG range. Needs to speed up the processing speed, but he's a rookie. Let him play out the year and then the Raiders can decide to draft someone, pay Kirk Cousins, or roll with AOC another year.
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AndrewP posted:The Ravens in 2014 but they had literally Gary Kubiak installing and coaching it The 2022 Patriots had Matt Patricia try it lol.
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MrLogan posted:the Raiders can decide to pay Kirk Cousins No. If we've learned ANYTHING from the past 20+ years it should be extremely obvious that we need to draft for a franchise QB until we hit. Signing old dudes just doesn't work for us anymore.
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