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Welp, game bugged out and won’t give me the last 3 emf missions. No platinum for me I guess
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Nov 11, 2023 04:44
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omg chael crash posted:We don’t say that name here What's really funny is how obvious it is whether someone reads comics or not when they find out about that. I watched someone see Knull's symbol on a whiteboard in Connors' secret lab being all "what's this?" and their chat was like "OMG! Comic book reference! This is so cool, streamer!" Meanwhile, another person who played it immediately reacted in disgust the second they realized the game included references to Knull at all and had a big laugh about it. 
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Nov 11, 2023 09:46
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I was watching some clips from the Venom movies (which I haven't actually seen yet), and it unironically owns that those movies made Venom into Cookie Monster, only with human brains instead of cookies.omg chael crash posted:We don’t say that name here As someone unfamiliar with any Spider-man comics after the mid-90s, I guess they created some sort of retcon (or I guess just "lore addition") that the symbiotes were created by this Knull guy? Sounds goofy. From googling, this guy doesn't look anything like what I'd assume "a source of the symbiotes" to look like.
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Nov 12, 2023 02:42
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Ytlaya posted:I was watching some clips from the Venom movies (which I haven't actually seen yet), and it unironically owns that those movies made Venom into Cookie Monster, only with human brains instead of cookies. The first Venom is a surprisingly enjoyable movie. Tom Hardy plays off the CGI funny Venom voice (also Hardy) pretty well. And then the second one came and it's like "this is why we can't have nice things"
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Nov 12, 2023 04:47
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amigolupus posted:What's really funny is how obvious it is whether someone reads comics or not when they find out about that. I watched someone see Knull's symbol on a whiteboard in Connors' secret lab being all "what's this?" and their chat was like "OMG! Comic book reference! This is so cool, streamer!" What's the deal with Knull hate? I'm not familiar with the character, only know him from Marvel Snap (and this I guess?)
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Nov 12, 2023 13:37
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Hobo Clown posted:What's the deal with Knull hate? I'm not familiar with the character, only know him from Marvel Snap (and this I guess?) Might be wrong about this but I think they retconned some well liked, previously unconnected stuff to be his doing or related to him, not just the obvious Symbiote stuff either. Then they spent ages building up to him and like many things in comics, the buildup was cool but the actual event was underwhelming. So he got massive, sudden overexposure and then the payoff to him being the focus for what felt like ages was not worth it.
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Nov 12, 2023 14:06
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https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1723343571666002062?s=20 Oh hey, game becomes reality!
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Nov 12, 2023 14:53
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thebardyspoon posted:Might be wrong about this but I think they retconned some well liked, previously unconnected stuff to be his doing or related to him, not just the obvious Symbiote stuff either. Then they spent ages building up to him and like many things in comics, the buildup was cool but the actual event was underwhelming. So he got massive, sudden overexposure and then the payoff to him being the focus for what felt like ages was not worth it. He looks like a loving WoW character and not the God of sentient alien goo.
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Nov 12, 2023 17:28
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For me the whole Knull business was just running an idea even further into the ground. Like remember when Spider-Man had a cool but weird costume and then it turned into a bad guy? Wait'll you hear about how those funky threads turn into dozens of bad guys and have their own planet and be worn by everybody and their mother at some point and tie into the whole history and fabric of the Marvel universe because it all goes back to a new god of the void, etc.
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Nov 12, 2023 17:55
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Yeah, that sounds like event comics alright
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Nov 12, 2023 18:03
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Reminds me of a post I saw somewhere pondering that if you don't reference the super stupid origin of everything and Knull himself, then the current symbiote stuff is functionally identical to the better Planet Symbiote stuff from the 90s. The black suit is cool and evil and there's a planet full of 'em that go do symbiote stuff wherever they want. Only difference is Venom gets wings
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Nov 12, 2023 18:42
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Man am I glad I checked out of new Spider-Man books around the time of Maximum Carnage
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Nov 12, 2023 18:45
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Knull is kind of emblematic of a problem that marvel has with retconning things for the sake of retconning them leading to issues where you have shocking reveals that contradict previous shocking reveals. Like SURPRISE it turns out that there's actually a whole race of Venoms and they're all actually superheroes and Venom's the outlier that's why he was imprisoned on war world. SURPRISE it turns out that actually the whole race of venoms are evil and venom was imprisoned for not being evil SURPRISE it turns out that all t he venoms are actually incarnations of pure negative energy created by the god of death KNULL and KNULL carved them out of primordial darkness himself using his sword ALL BLACK THE DEVASTATOR
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Nov 12, 2023 19:18
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Hobo Clown posted:What's the deal with Knull hate? I'm not familiar with the character, only know him from Marvel Snap (and this I guess?) He was super oversold for the better part of a year before he finally showed up, at which point he looked like Evil Ernie in a Hot Topic Venom hoodie. The resolution of his storyline also involves this nearly completely unearned plot beat with Eddie Brock as Space Jesus.
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Nov 12, 2023 19:19
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Kurieg posted:Knull is kind of emblematic of a problem that marvel has with retconning things for the sake of retconning them leading to issues where you have shocking reveals that contradict previous shocking reveals. All Black The Necrosword kicked rear end when it was just Gorr’s weird, heavy metal album cover god stabbing thing
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Nov 12, 2023 20:50
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I really liked that run of Thor where it showed up, yeah. All it needed to be was a sickass sword that got its name revealed in one panel, so of course they went into its super duper lore four years later and that it turns out an even badder evil was behind it all along.
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Nov 12, 2023 21:14
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I liked Venom when he was just a weird beefy dude who wanted to eat Spider-Man's brains
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Nov 12, 2023 22:46
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omg chael crash posted:All Black The Necrosword kicked rear end when it was just Gorr’s weird, heavy metal album cover god stabbing thing Knull kicks rear end.
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Nov 12, 2023 23:18
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I always thought Venom just came from an evil goo planet like the thing from Slither and never investigated it further, that seemed fine Though I did like the explanation from the Tom Hardy movie where Venom can relate to Eddie Brock because he's also a loser on his planet lol
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Nov 12, 2023 23:21
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Weird question. I've got one trophy between me and the platinum, and it's for scoring stealth takedowns while standing on a web line. Unfortunately, I've completed just about everything in-game, so now the only things left on the map are Mysteriums and the occasional crime. Is there any particular workaround here that doesn't involve replaying a new game for a couple of hours? Wolfsheim posted:I always thought Venom just came from an evil goo planet like the thing from Slither and never investigated it further, that seemed fine Would that he did. Comics!Venom isn't particularly complicated as these things go, but it ties into a weirdly dense number of storylines, and it's only gotten weirder as time's gone on.
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Nov 13, 2023 00:56
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Wanderer posted:Weird question. I've got one trophy between me and the platinum, and it's for scoring stealth takedowns while standing on a web line. I believe in the first game they patched in the ability to respawn bases and the like, one of those things where you'd hope they'd have it in at the start for a sequel but kinda understandable it's a low priority feature. Apart from waiting for that, I guess you could either maybe do it to the occasional random crime that occurs in an alleyway/near walls or yeah, restart the game.
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Nov 13, 2023 01:01
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Wanderer posted:Weird question. I've got one trophy between me and the platinum, and it's for scoring stealth takedowns while standing on a web line. Do you have any manual saves from earlier in the game? You could save your current spot and go back if so. Failing that, you should be able to be sneaky for certain random crimes if you approach slowly. And it would be easier with Miles since you can go into Camo.
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Nov 13, 2023 01:26
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Beat the game on Amazing, then did a 100% run on Ultimate and got the platinum trophy. Fun game! Soooo in the part where Miles is captured by the Hunters, was that Chameleon as the construction work or just a random hunter? Didn't finish that quest the first game so I assumed it was just a basic trap but the quest made me question it
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Nov 13, 2023 01:40
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Waffleopolis posted:Beat the game on Amazing, then did a 100% run on Ultimate and got the platinum trophy. Fun game! I did that side quest line before that mission and I think it's meant to be him. I just can’t see any of the hunters doing that and it's never addressed otherwise.
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Nov 13, 2023 02:01
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I honestly don’t remember what you guys are talking about
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Nov 13, 2023 02:07
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omg chael crash posted:I honestly don’t remember what you guys are talking about When miles and MJ go after Peter in the tunnel and get separated, Miles spots a construction worker begging for help. He goes to save him and gets injected by the guy who gives off a sinister grin
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Nov 13, 2023 02:12
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But based on the Chameleon side mission, aren't he and Kraven at odds with each other during the events of the game?
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Nov 13, 2023 02:19
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Also speaks to Miles in Russian while he's knocking him out It really doesn't make much sense why Chameleon would try to help Kraven with his plan given everything else but no one else really fits for who that guy is DeathChicken fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 13, 2023 |
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Nov 13, 2023 02:19
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DeathChicken posted:Also speaks to Miles in Russian while he's knocking him out Chameleon is Kraven's brother so the Russian made sense to me, but you're right that it wouldn't serve any purpose to sedate Miles for him. . Suppose it really is just a random hunter.
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Nov 13, 2023 02:34
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Chameleon is one of those supervillains you can't help but root for. Guy who is physically normal just trying to outwit the superhuman Spider-man with his costumes.
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Nov 13, 2023 02:52
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DeathChicken posted:Also speaks to Miles in Russian while he's knocking him out
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Nov 13, 2023 06:48
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I know that saying "where are the Avengers during all this?" is a bottom-of-the-barrel nitpick, but I thought it was really funny and couldn't help but laugh when I passed by the Avengers HQ during the Lizard chase. Can't Thor or Captain Marvel come help me out? We're tearing the whole block asunder over here!  I really liked the boss fight itself, though. I feel like that's one area in which this game really improved on Spider-Man 1 and Miles Morales. The Mysterio boss fight was awesome, too. Super creative and I loved throwing toy cars around. JordanKai fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Nov 13, 2023 |
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Nov 13, 2023 14:00
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Boss fights are pretty great other than the fact there's barely any for ages followed by, like, ten in very quick succession. Most of them probably had one too many phases too.
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Nov 13, 2023 14:25
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JordanKai posted:I know that saying "where are the Avengers during all this?" is a bottom-of-the-barrel nitpick, but I thought it was really funny and couldn't help but laugh when I passed by the Avengers HQ during the Lizard chase. Can't Thor or Captain Marvel come help me out? We're tearing the whole block asunder over here!
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Nov 13, 2023 18:09
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The Avengers were probably in space/in another dimension/in another time period. That's the standard excuse for why they are not around for this stuff. Edit: Hell, we literally see that with Dr. Strange, where he's out of town so Black Cat can just break in and steal his poo poo.
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Nov 13, 2023 18:11
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If I bought a game called Spider-Man and the Avengers showed up and started fighting the villains instead, I'd be pretty annoyed
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Nov 13, 2023 18:15
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Avengers show up and the game changes to a Bruce Banner stealth mission
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Nov 13, 2023 18:16
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veni veni veni posted:Welp, game bugged out and won’t give me the last 3 emf missions. No platinum for me I guess I thought so too then my buddy told me to cruise around the west side of Hell's Kitchen and yup, one popped up there, which led to the rest. Not sure if you're having the same issue but worth a shot.
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Maybe the Avengers are currently in one of those weird line ups where it's half no powers people or something. That or they're taking a break/disbanded and Tony is just sitting on the real estate.
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