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3D Megadoodoo posted:One thing I've wondered is when did people stop talking about daugtherboards. Everyone still calls the motherboard a motherboard but daughterboards have been just "cards" for a long time now. I usually see people use card for ISA and PCI stuff, and use daughterboard to refer to add on boards that use different connectors.
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Hmmm never really thought of that one being rare or expensive. Checking on LDDB there's zero for sale, my aussie fixer has none, theres one on ebay for $200+ though. A PAL copy exists for ~$20 but it's not widescreen. Interesting find!
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I am so mad that there are no videos online of the Peanuts version of this performing the MIDI of Linus & Lucy
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I want to know how much this weighs. Those old time desks were bombproof. https://twitter.com/HumanoidHistory/status/1723539578064077204?s=20
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Current state of newly reassembled 5x86 system and the Dell Ultrascan I got in the mail yesterday. Both pretty grungy and in need of a scrubbing though. 
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^ I recommend never clicking the "Connect to the Internet" icon. Anyway,  
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Killer robot posted:Current state of newly reassembled 5x86 system and the Dell Ultrascan I got in the mail yesterday. Both pretty grungy and in need of a scrubbing though. Call it "PC pantina" and don't scrub it at all. That is the natural staining of a PC being used for a long time Edit: now that I would think about it, I wouldn't clean it because it shows it has been used and not a clone. Like a sun yellowed NES/SNES you know it was used by someone. Maybe remove like the really brown gunk stuff on top of the case, but not use ultra bright to make the case back to its original condition EVIL Gibson has a new favorite as of 04:03 on Nov 13, 2023 |
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EVIL Gibson posted:Call it "PC pantina" and don't scrub it at all. I wasn't really planning on ultrabrite since a little yellowing is part of the charm, but there's a lot of grime on there and scuff marks on the monitor that will clean up without making it look factory or anything. Similar to the Laser 128 I got out of a cabin in the desert. I should maybe get a disk emu for that though since I don't really have any software for it past a boot disk. It's nice having an SVGA CRT again though. I'm going to keep using the LCD on the workbench just since it's lighter and takes less space, still.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:One thing I've wondered is when did people stop talking about daugtherboards. Everyone still calls the motherboard a motherboard but daughterboards have been just "cards" for a long time now. I've noticed that Apple (and Mac enthusiasts) tend to say "logic board" instead of motherboard. Also of linguistic interest - I happened to watch an episode of The Computer Chronicles from 1985 yesterday, and it really stuck out when the term "lap computer" was used a few times: (start at 2:33 if you want to hear an example) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY7AR_xmcQ8 They mostly say "portables" or "portable computers" throughout the episode but never once say the word "laptop". I found it curious because the word definitely did exist by then, but I'm not sure when it came into true common usage. (the laptops of 1985 were of course still pretty loving hefty) Snackmar has a new favorite as of 00:14 on Nov 14, 2023 |
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Snackmar posted:I've noticed that Apple (and Mac enthusiants) tend to say "logic board" instead of motherboard. Definitely correct w/r/t logic/mother board, something I noticed when we went from a Tandy to a Mac. Laptops are portable but portables arent all laptops. If you were taking a computer somewhere the expectation was that there would be a flat surface such as a desk to run it on and not a coffeeshop/bar.
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I remember using notebook and laptop interchangeably until one day laptop just won. I don't think anyone I know calls them notebook computers anymore. I'm curious if it is a regional thing like pop/coke/soda/softdrink.
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Not all motherboards are logic boards. Apple users are dumb! Commodore rox!
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I'm always amused when one company decides it's just going to die on the hill of its own terminology that it made up decades ago and stubbornly defends to the end. McDonald's is my favorite non-tech example, how they insist on "sandwich" instead of "burger", "hotcakes" instead of pancakes, and "a large french fry" instead of "fries" Just ... give it up guys, whatever dialect this stuff came from is extinct But Apple has its own lexicon: logic board, notebook hung on till I think only just when the Apple Silicon chips came out and they could sit on your lap without burning you, and I remember when for like a decade they steadfastly refused to use "wifi" or any term for 802.11 other than "AirPort™" In their case a lot of it comes from their careful market research and tiptoeing around people's computer literacy gaps, so they would use "display" and never "monitor", "quit" and not "exit", "application" and never "program", "preferences" and not "control panel". They tried to come up with non-threatening and understandable metaphors and approachable terms for new technical concepts. That doesn't really excuse AirPort though lol
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As far as I'm concerned display is an appropriate substitute for monitor, and sandwich is an appropriate substitute for burger.
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emSparkly posted:As far as I'm concerned display is an appropriate substitute for monitor, and sandwich is an appropriate substitute for burger. A burger is a subset of sandwich. Just like how pizza is a subset of soup.
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Wait, McD calls them sandwiches in the US? They're just "hamburgers" in Norway, even in the small print - or at least I couldn't find any exceptions on their website.
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emSparkly posted:As far as I'm concerned display is an appropriate substitute for monitor, and sandwich is an appropriate substitute for burger. Display is the contents, presented on a display unit such as a VDU 
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Data Graham posted:and I remember when for like a decade they steadfastly refused to use "wifi" or any term for 802.11 other than "AirPort™" "AirPort" to me will always recall the era of the first brightly-colored G3 iBooks, the ones with the carrying handle which may or may not have contained the antenna depending on who you asked. 
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Computer viking posted:Wait, McD calls them sandwiches in the US? They're just "hamburgers" in Norway, even in the small print - or at least I couldn't find any exceptions on their website. More like when you ask for a Big Mac or something, they will try to sell you a combo meal and they'll say "oh, just the sandwich?" no matter how you emphasize "just the burger"
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Snackmar posted:I've noticed that Apple (and Mac enthusiasts) tend to say "logic board" instead of motherboard.
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tbf the original AirPort had a modem built in, so it was marketing a place for the data to take off from the ground into the air.
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I don't know if I've ever bought a thing with a higher aesthetics-to-usefulness ratio: https://i.imgur.com/W3FoSOh.mp4
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That is gorgeous. Wow.
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Data Graham posted:More like when you ask for a Big Mac or something, they will try to sell you a combo meal and they'll say "oh, just the sandwich?" no matter how you emphasize "just the burger" I just assumed it's because their hamburgers don't meet the legal definition of a hamburger, so they call them sandwiches.
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Data Graham posted:More like when you ask for a Big Mac or something, they will try to sell you a combo meal and they'll say "oh, just the sandwich?" no matter how you emphasize "just the burger" Imagining a grumpy boomer trying to get McD to say "burger" and finally giving up and then the cashier says "happy holidays!" and the boomers face turns red.
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First of May posted:I just assumed it's because their hamburgers don't meet the legal definition of a hamburger, so they call them sandwiches. What's the legal definition of a hamburger?
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Literally every hamburger store does that? I always say "just the sandwich" when I order something. That's a really weird thing to get upset about.
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Trabant posted:^ I recommend never clicking the "Connect to the Internet" icon. wait what the heck is this ad saying? also trabant that phone is going to take your eye out
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Gravid Topiary posted:wait what the heck is this ad saying? I'm scared about the lack of flared base.
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Cojawfee posted:Literally every hamburger store does that? I always say "just the sandwich" when I order something. That's a really weird thing to get upset about. Maybe it is, it just always seemed very strange to me ever since I was a kid to refer to a burger as a sandwich. It's a thing I only ever encountered in drive-thrus when trying to explain I didn't want a "<thing> value meal", just the literal thing I said. Always felt like a weird protocol training thing where there was no way I could order it clearly enough to avoid that misunderstanding/clarification step, and the vocabulary oddness just made it the more awkward. I wish they sold hot dogs so I could see if they consider those sandwiches
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Over the years and even mostly in this thread I have noticed Data Graham seems to have lived an only mildly different version of my own life (or vice versa, not trying to claim I am the protagonist here), as I can totally relate to noticing that very thing for the very same reason of not really eating fries or ever drinking soda so just give me the drat burg. Though I have long since switched to chicken sandwiches at nearly every fast food place ever so if I wanted them to call those burgers I would definitely be in the wrong
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Chicken sandwiches come on burger buns so they should be called chicken burgers.
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I am told that in Australia, they are
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Tons of places call their burgers sandwiches. Basically everywhere that doesn’t specifically have “burger” in its branding somewhere in the name or their tagline like Burger King or Five Guys just calls it all sandwiches now.
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Ordering "just the burger" could be construed as "just the patty, no bun" (as is sometimes ordered by Atkins dieters) so it makes sense that restaurants would make a practice of referring to the whole construction as the "sandwich", for clarity. 
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Hm, fair point In any case far be it from me to grouse about people manning a drive-thru for minimum wage and having to follow a corporate script, it's not their fault and there's probably a reason from the company side too. As annoyances go it's quite small, but I still think it's funny that we have these artifacts of language for whatever reason Data Graham has a new favorite as of 16:27 on Nov 14, 2023 |
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Mantle posted:I remember using notebook and laptop interchangeably until one day laptop just won. I don't think anyone I know calls them notebook computers anymore. I'm curious if it is a regional thing like pop/coke/soda/softdrink. My memory was that Laptops were the more full-featured machines (like what we'd call a "desktop replacement" these days), whereas a notebook was smaller, less feature-filled, but lighter, intended as a fill-in machine (like the Powerbook Duo).
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Gravid Topiary posted:wait what the heck is this ad saying?  In other words: I have no idea, found it posted like that on Instagram  Humphreys posted:I'm scared about the lack of flared base.
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Neito posted:My memory was that Laptops were the more full-featured machines (like what we'd call a "desktop replacement" these days), whereas a notebook was smaller, less feature-filled, but lighter, intended as a fill-in machine (like the Powerbook Duo). I suppose that I should add for context in the time period I was talking about there was no such class of "smaller, less feature-filled" notebook/laptop computer. I'm talking about these things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Contura Maybe the split happened when that class of computer actually became a thing.
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Trabant posted:
in case of emergency, tug the butt cord
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