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Not even a top 10 finish for the Kārearea. Can John's dancing fish-gobbler drop out of the sky at 200km/h to snag a rabbit? I think not. But hey, record donations.
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Word in the grapevine is that Luxon, Winnie and Seymour might've come to an agreement, there's an announcement expected tomorrow. E: lol the announcement has been cancelled now. I wonder what happened! voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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bike tory posted:Word in the grapevine is that Luxon, Winnie and Seymour might've come to an agreement, there's an announcement expected tomorrow. Another dispute between Winston and Rimmer?
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Lobsterpillar posted:Another dispute between Winston and Rimmer? Seymour: How about, as a compromise I get.. Peters: *interrupting* No Luxon: I'm here too!
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Content to Hover posted:Seymour: How about, as a compromise I get.. Peters: Did I say you could speak? Luxon: *Raises hand*
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Nov 16, 2023 00:46
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From the funny pictures thread:Thorbeef posted:
I thought about doing this, but I like Danny John-Jules too much. I can imagine Winston is doing this bit right now though.
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Nov 16, 2023 01:27
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Content to Hover posted:From the funny pictures thread: Winston is the cat among the pigeons in this metaphor?
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Seymour is a smeghead who looks like Chris Barrie, Luxon is bald and and there are three of them.
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Nov 16, 2023 02:59
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Ghostlight posted:winston shits in a box Whilst maintaining eye contact the entire time?
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Lobsterpillar posted:Whilst maintaining eye contact the entire time? The box is a metaphor for Luxon's dreams.
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Lobsterpillar posted:Winston is the cat among the pigeons in this metaphor? Cat who got the cream
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do we have a government yet
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Yes, Chippy is excelling in the role of the PM who doesn’t do anything.
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Varkk posted:Yes, Chippy is excelling in the role of the PM who doesn’t do anything. what the gently caress, i was told luxon was going to fix the roads and get rid of the woke. this is bullshit
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redleader posted:what the gently caress, i was told luxon was going to fix the roads and get rid of the woke. this is bullshit Turns out the roads are unfixable and we're already awake so that option is off the table
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Some great lines in this https://northandsouth.co.nz/2023/11/13/goodbye-to-saturday-mornings-with-kim-hill/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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quote:Not that Kim Hill isn’t a national treasure. But if she is, she’s like one of those obsidian knives once used for human sacrifices, which, despite their pride of place in the museum archives, are still sharp enough to slit a human’s throat. drat no one turns a phrase quite like hera
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rude of her to call kim hill a milkloving piece of poo poo
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Kim hill is an anagram of kill him
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Stunning insight Tova
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tag taika in it lmao
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I suppose it's the whole red heifer, third temple, apocalypse thing motivating Tamaki, but seeing that, it's like alright Brian was it worth it hitching your wagon to this white supremacist state? This is what they think of you, was it worth it?
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:I suppose it's the whole red heifer, third temple, apocalypse thing motivating Tamaki, but seeing that, it's like alright Brian was it worth it hitching your wagon to this white supremacist state? This is what they think of you, was it worth it? So like I've heard isreal being described as white supremacist a few times - what's the justification there? I kinda thought Jewish people came from all over and I've definitely seen brown isreali soldiers.
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klen dool posted:So like I've heard isreal being described as white supremacist a few times - what's the justification there? I kinda thought Jewish people came from all over and I've definitely seen brown isreali soldiers. You can look into how they treat Ethiopian Jews for a start. Their whole automatic citizenship/population project is entirely aimed at getting certain "types" of Jews to move to Israel. All the IDF propaganda features basically Aryan-looking bombshell blondes in uniform. It's a little reductive of me to call it that because of course there are many Israelis there who are closer to Palestinians in heritage than anyone else, but their ethnonationalist project, like any, is not about perfect logic. I guess I was more reacting to the dismissive racism of the clip tbh. Deep Glove Bruno fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Nov 18, 2023 |
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They are white supremacist because they're genociding brown people, hth
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Christ a lot of their propaganda is white people, hot young white people. Not all of it but like a LOT of it
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Slavvy posted:They are white supremacist because they're genociding brown people, hth could you specify the colour tone for what is white or brown?
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Pretend I could be bothered finding the Peter Griffin colour chart meme
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I don't understand how this fascist state dripping in fascist aesthetics and genociding an indigenous minority is racist, plz help
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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/502746/christopher-luxon-defends-use-of-taxpayer-funds-for-auckland-based-coalition-talksRNZ posted:National Party leader Christopher Luxon says the cost of holding talks in Auckland to form a new government is the price of democracy. Our sound economic managers, ladies and gentlemen.
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Slavvy posted:I don't understand how this fascist state dripping in fascist aesthetics and genociding an indigenous minority is racist, plz help I didn't say they weren't racist, I was just considering what type of racist they were.
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Slavvy posted:Pretend I could be bothered finding the Peter Griffin colour chart meme don't forget to insert "to bomb" under the "okay" and "not okay"
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klen dool posted:So like I've heard isreal being described as white supremacist a few times - what's the justification there? I kinda thought Jewish people came from all over and I've definitely seen brown isreali soldiers. Zionism isn't an explicitly white supremacist ideology and Israel accepts Jewish migrants from all over the world. It's a really diverse country. There have been different waves of migration into Israel, a lot of the initial influx when Israel was established were arab Jews from neighbouring countries, for example. Ethiopian Jews have a particular history there too, there was a huge influx of Jews from the USSR when it broke up, etc. Israel has a shitload of political parties too, because of that diversity. But as you'd expect, the non-Jewish ones, and the ones representing brown or black Jewish groups tend to be more progressive or left wing. They also have a really low threshold to get into parliament so leftwing coalitions tend to be really big and unstable. The same is true of the right, but the coalitions that have maintained power for the longest, especially over the last 20-25 years, have been made up of right wing and far-right parties that have a white supremacist agenda. They pour shitloads of money into encouraging white European and American Jews to move to Israel, they tie the Zionist project to the eradication of Palestine. They also maintain apartheid, obviously in the West Bank and Gaza, but also within Israel itself. Apartheid within Israel isn't legally based on racialised lines, but it is enforced that way in practice. White Israelis are assumed to be Jewish whereas black/brown/arab Israelis constantly have to prove their religion and are denied legal and practical rights on that basis. Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke recently about this, reflecting on how similar his recent trip to Israel was to the white supremacist segregationist South in the US: https://youtu.be/_df_u7yJj3k?t=160&si=BKZPmhmWMHQPCBHp (he starts at 2:40 if the timestamp doesn't work). Well worth a listen. Israel also gets a lot of support from white supremacists and Evangelicals around the world because they see Zionism as a successful white European colonisation project. And of course there's all the weird hosed up Christian Zionism poo poo with white supremacy woven into their religious beliefs. But then there are also white supremacists who advocate for the destruction of Israel for antisemitic reasons, so that's a complicated alliance. tl;dr Israel is a white supremacist state in the same way the US is, or NZ, Australia, Canada etc. Apologies if you knew most/all of this already but important not to be reductive when calling a country white supremacist imo.
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Spyderizer posted:https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/502746/christopher-luxon-defends-use-of-taxpayer-funds-for-auckland-based-coalition-talks Business Egg himself owns like seven properties, doesn't he? Why can't he use his own resources to solve the problem he himself created instead of leeching off the generosity of the state? It's just encouraging dependency on handouts and an unwillingness to work. Wait, I'm getting passed a note here. It's not good for the gander? Well that's news to me
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bike tory posted:Israel also gets a lot of support from white supremacists and Evangelicals around the world because they see Zionism as a successful white European colonisation project. And of course there's all the weird hosed up Christian Zionism poo poo with white supremacy woven into their religious beliefs. eh i think this tries a bit hard to fit things into a framework of oppressors and the oppressed. in the US at least, there are multiple avenues from different sources: - for policy hawks, its a front in the war with iran - for jews, its a lot of things but a nested list would be overkill - for fundamentalist christians, its a precursor to the apocalypse and the second coming of christ - for racists, its a fight against the arabs so there's a bit of something for everyone ps: the only times ive ever heard anyone mention "zionism" has been coming from antisemites so i get alarm bells every time i hear that
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Progressive JPEG posted:eh i think this tries a bit hard to fit things into a framework of oppressors and the oppressed. in the US at least, there are multiple avenues from different sources: Yeah I was stressing specifically why a country like Israel could be considered white supremacist, per klen's question. There are plenty of other reasons for the support Israel gets. Zionism/zionists is the best term to use imo because it refers to the political movement and it's sorters rather than generalising about the entire country or population.
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it's probably a rationale for their support in the west, but 'white supremacist' doesn't make sense as a description of israeli domination over the palestinians. israel is explicitly a jewish supremacist state with a multiethnic jewish population – mizrahim are a massive support base for likud and other far-right parties, for example. there's obviously racism within jewish israeli society too (like the treatment of ethiopian jews someone raised earlier). anti-zionism = opposed to a colonial ethnostate; antisemitism = racism against jewish people. it's not that hard.
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