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I genuinely think single draft is the platonic ideal Dota game mode. Making hosed up team comps kicks rear end. Dota, like every other UMS game shouldn’t be that serious.
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 17:35 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 10:13 |
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Half the items Dota are cribbed from pso lol
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 17:36 |
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Smythe posted:I genuinely think single draft is the platonic ideal Dota game mode. Making hosed up team comps kicks rear end. Dota, like every other UMS game shouldn’t be that serious. SD owns because the less agency you give the general Dota population over their draft the better.
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 17:39 |
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The true best mode used to be random draft but then they hosed it up by doubling the draft pool
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 17:41 |
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IcePhoenix posted:The true best mode used to be random draft but then they hosed it up by doubling the draft pool yea RD was godly
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 18:12 |
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causticBeet posted:SD owns because the less agency you give the general Dota population over their draft the better. this e: love to play games with a practical pool of 10 meta heroes,. FTW. PSYCHE
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 18:12 |
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IcePhoenix posted:The true best mode used to be random draft but then they hosed it up by doubling the draft pool
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 18:27 |
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at least it's back down to 30? or so now but nobody plays it anymore, rip
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 18:28 |
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I like the idea of Turbo mode because I play less Dota these days but every time I've tried it I'm just left in the dust because my old dumb brain can't really recalibrate to the Turbo timings of stuff.
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 19:21 |
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SD Turbo would be awesome
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 22:25 |
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In WC3 days -apem was by far the most popular mode Which was kinda like turbo
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 22:34 |
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ILL Machina posted:I kinda get it though. The pace and income is all hosed so heroes that have earlyish timings have a very small window to pull something off. And you don't have a lot of room to keep a game close. Like if early game is kinda even in a normal game, you can win and lose a couple fights and the snowball isn't as inevitable. people who force the game to go longer by retreating when the entire enemy team is dead should go to The Hauge. it's not very turbo of them
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 22:51 |
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I always point this out if an enemy team is prolonging a game of turbo that is long over. Did we not queue for fast games? What are we doing folks?
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 22:53 |
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I coach the herald boys in turbs and they are regularly 45 minute plus affairs
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 23:00 |
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the funniest part of people prolonging turbo games is that those games can flip so easily half the time the team that was way ahead ends up losing
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 23:08 |
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Moonshard + Deso and you can backdoor the throne as CM in 10 seconds
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 23:15 |
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Regular games can flip easily too Feel like about half the games where my team is behind all game, we still manage to pull off a defense at the t3 towers to pull closer to even and then it's just do we have the discipline to play safe, save buybacks and defend again (no, never lol) or decide we need to smoke out of base and take a fight somewhere we have no vision and lose for sure (it's always this)
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# ? Nov 11, 2023 23:16 |
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Like at least 50% of the population of turbo matchmaking is people who pick cores but have terrible mechanics so even with increased gold income they need 45 minutes to get items. And the reason turbo sucks is that this will very often work out for them since “pick super greedy late game lineups and stall” is a brain dead easy and valid strategy in turbo. Edit - I’ll still play it and have friends that will usually only play turbo, but I promise you they get just as mad at turbo as they do when they concede and play normal all pick causticBeet fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Nov 12, 2023 |
# ? Nov 12, 2023 00:01 |
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The towers have like 5 hp yet, no one wants to hit them they want to get that second rapier
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# ? Nov 12, 2023 00:19 |
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Turbo stalls for the same reason normal dota stalls, people win a teamfight and then instead of pushing an objective or taking control of the map they just go farm.
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# ? Nov 12, 2023 02:28 |
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Smythe posted:dota is an easy game for morons Beef posted:
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# ? Nov 13, 2023 07:34 |
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Why are people like this allowed to earn MMR when we inevitably drag them to victory: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/7436307402/chat Sometimes you get out of a game that should have been extremely fun and exciting but man this one guy just seemed so intent on ruining the game for us.
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# ? Nov 13, 2023 07:39 |
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Superrodan posted:Why are people like this allowed to earn MMR when we inevitably drag them to victory: are you making sure to report for toxic chat ingame? there's real-time chat scanning now that mutes people for the remainder of the game if 3+ people rep them and they've been saying negative things
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# ? Nov 13, 2023 10:38 |
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NtotheTC posted:are you making sure to report for toxic chat ingame? there's real-time chat scanning now that mutes people for the remainder of the game if 3+ people rep them and they've been saying negative things I most definitely did. I also know at least one other player did too. The report mute actually mutes them forever for anyone in the game, oddly enough. Basically the "forced mute" also mutes them from your menu, and that mute persists across games. I've run into people in games that were muted, and I never manually mute anyone ever (even to the point where if I see someone muted I unmute them)
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# ? Nov 13, 2023 11:11 |
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You’re complaining about some dickhead being a toxic rear end in a top hat and, in the next breath, sharing that you go out of your way to unmute known dickheads. 🤔
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# ? Nov 13, 2023 14:23 |
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When I load into a game and see I have someone muted, I usually un-mute them and give them a second chance.
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# ? Nov 13, 2023 14:46 |
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DNK posted:You’re complaining about some dickhead being a toxic rear end in a top hat and, in the next breath, sharing that you go out of your way to unmute known dickheads. 🤔 Being a toxic rear end in a top hat goes beyond flaming most of the time. Regardless of whether or not I had him muted he was going to spend the time and energy talking in all chat instead of playing the game.
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 09:45 |
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Today I learned Dota is a CPU-Bound game. I upgraded my 5 year old video card to a modern one and I was expecting like 300fps.
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 09:56 |
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Yep, the AMD 3d cache CPUs are the most relevant upgrade for Dota
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 12:05 |
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Is anyone else playing this new BroDotA arcade game that can help me understand the equipment system
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 15:30 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:Today I learned Dota is a CPU-Bound game. I upgraded my 5 year old video card to a modern one and I was expecting like 300fps. This is true across all Source games, CPU will pay bigger dividends than GPU
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 17:46 |
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Yea I had no GPU for a few weeks last year, was surprised I could maintain 60fps @1440p on whatever poo poo settings
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 17:48 |
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At one point it was a pretty high priority to Valve that Dota2 be able to run on weaker computers and they did a pretty good job of ensuring that for awhile.
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 18:18 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Is anyone else playing this new BroDotA arcade game that can help me understand the equipment system Oh cool it’s dota brotato
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 21:32 |
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Dota runs fine on my roughly 8 year old i5, it’s Path of Exile that grinds my cpu into dust
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# ? Nov 14, 2023 22:09 |
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Geight posted:At one point it was a pretty high priority to Valve that Dota2 be able to run on weaker computers and they did a pretty good job of ensuring that for awhile. Cosmetics revenue is a hell of a drug.
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# ? Nov 15, 2023 14:58 |
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DNK posted:Oh cool it’s dota brotato Yeah it's fun but I still have no idea how anything but the basic gameplay works lol. I got all these equipment and relics and no clue what they're really doing.
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# ? Nov 15, 2023 16:38 |
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Had a couple really nice NP games, I stomped the lanes, I'm getting way better at last hitting. The problem is late game I have a hard time keeping an eye on my hero, and not just feeding. Maybe the trick for NP is to build some attack range so you can sprout, and then right click from a distance? I'm not sure but I'm getting to a point where I can easily win an early game, but then late I start to throw it away. I also had a horrible game on Riki. I did OK in the lanes, but then when I started hunting supports I just couldn't kill them. What's the build for an early game assassin Riki?
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# ? Nov 15, 2023 16:58 |
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NP's one of those "anything can work" heroes. You can build him very right click oriented and fight/gank, lots of people like Shadow Blade for the utility of ghosting away while you wait for Teleport to come off cooldown (or TP in somewhere safely). You can ignore the 9 other people in the game and just push buildings. You can go more utilitarian with Scythe of Vyse or Orchid. It depends heavily on both personal preference and what the rest of your team comp looks like. I don't really play Riki, so other than "Diffusal Blade + Smoke Cloud and eventually a Skull Basher" I'm not sure what more to say. Dota2ProTracker suggests "typical agility carry items" such as Diffusal, Yasha, and Manta. If the enemy supports are smart and build tankier support items + Force Staff to push themselves out of your cloud though there's not a ton you can do, but ideally you should be dunking on them before they have 2 items built. edit; oh and I still lose my hero in the fray of combat all the time lol. 30's + pothead aren't great for fast paced games like DOTA It's a skill you'll develop, but I imagine it happens to a significant chunk of the playerbase. Sab669 fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 10:13 |
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Nature's Prophet's one of those heroes that force you at any moment to decide whether it's better to fight with your team or push a lane instead. Sometimes staying out of the fight, and choosing to make a Dota 2 game a single player one is a winning strat. It's called ratting, a less-than-honorable tactic that wins games.
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# ? Nov 15, 2023 17:16 |