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I feel like regardless of the actual winrate, they are going to have to nuke excavate warlock. It's not unbeatable, but the decks that can beat it (hyper aggro and control decks with hand disruption) mean that we are going to quickly settle into a control meta and snuff out all of the midrangey decks (which is a ton of this expansion - druid, shaman, pally, etc)
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It’ll probably be good enough if they just change the snake to do 10 damage and heal 10, and touch nothing else in Excavate Warlock. Still a good strategy but armor and healing will actually let you survive it
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what is the best pack opening order now? does it go standard > showdown expac > class > ?
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Won my first seven matches with dragon druid to get to Diamond, the game is good again.
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Last King posted:what is the best pack opening order now? does it go standard > showdown expac > class > ? As a corollary to this, if you haven't played in years and were going to drop 30-40 bucks on packs, which of the many options in the store are the best value?
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Bought the 10 catch up and 5 exp pcks for 1500 gold, I thought that the catch up packs only contained cards you didn't have? They all contained 5 cards and I got several that I could swear I had 2 copies of already, ended up getting 365 dust for the bundle.
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Firebert posted:I feel like regardless of the actual winrate, they are going to have to nuke excavate warlock. It's not unbeatable, but the decks that can beat it (hyper aggro and control decks with hand disruption) mean that we are going to quickly settle into a control meta and snuff out all of the midrangey decks (which is a ton of this expansion - druid, shaman, pally, etc) Yeah I don't see it lasting in its current form either. Especially if the curse variant of the deck becomes dominant.
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RatHat posted:The concoction one? It seems fine to me I've not once been able to excavate 8 times to trigger the good part of the treasure. I find myself having to use my resources to survive...
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I'm recanting my statement of Thunderbringer being the worst freebie legendary ever. Summoning Glugg and Walking Mountain is pretty sweet.
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Nov 15, 2023 12:49
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I’ve never once felt like the sunwell legendary did anything but make hand management a headache
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Nov 15, 2023 13:27
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Boatswain posted:I've not once been able to excavate 8 times to trigger the good part of the treasure. I find myself having to use my resources to survive... drilly and breakdance can make it easy
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Nov 15, 2023 14:50
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Blizzard.... where is my "Howdy... howdy.... howdy" annoy-o-tron card
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19 games/79% WR (Plat 6) with this deck and not ONCE has my Staff of Frogs been removed. Didn't even see a single ETC. And I just tested it so you don't have to: The status of your summoned frogs does not carry over if you play a second Doc Halli'dae and get a new weapon. It resets to 1/1 frogs. Which I have mixed feelings about, considering how the card text is worded. Considering dropping Shock Hopper, he has messed up my Glugg pull from Thunderbringer twice when I wasn't paying attention. Swap with Red Herring maybe? ### **Rrribbit** # Class: Shaman # Format: Standard # Year of the Wolf # # 1x (1) Cold Storage # 1x (1) Lightning Bolt # 1x (1) Lightning Reflexes # 1x (1) Miracle Salesman # 1x (1) Schooling # 1x (1) Shock Hopper # 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide # 1x (2) Amphibious Elixir # 1x (2) Ancestral Knowledge # 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn # 1x (2) Cactus Cutter # 1x (2) Dryscale Deputy # 1x (2) Flash of Lightning # 1x (2) Gold Panner # 1x (3) Dehydrate # 1x (3) Gaslight Gatekeeper # 1x (3) Hex # 1x (3) Turn the Tides # 1x (5) Altered Chord # 1x (5) Command of Neptulon # 1x (5) Crash of Thunder # 1x (5) Doctor Holli'dae # 1x (6) Golganneth, the Thunderer # 1x (6) Horn of the Windlord # 1x (7) Giant Tumbleweed!!! # 1x (7) Glugg the Gulper # 1x (8) Reno, Lone Ranger # 1x (8) Thunderbringer # 1x (9) Walking Mountain # 1x (10) Neptulon the Tidehunter # AAECAYHaAx6vnwT5nwTlsATgtQTptgS/zgTGzgTpowXipAW+0AX26AXN7gWN9QXK+AXL+AWH+wX5jAavjQazjQaFjgbslQbqmAbrmAbOnAarnQatnQaangbmngb2owavqAYAAAA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone mcbexx fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Thread title is very appropriate for that Zola/Bounce/Snake Warlock deck. Can't even heal past the 20, so you're hosed on the next turn
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Last King posted:what is the best pack opening order now? does it go standard > showdown expac > class > ? Catch-up then class then standard then badlands then redeem stuff from the tavern pass. RVT posted:As a corollary to this, if you haven't played in years and were going to drop 30-40 bucks on packs, which of the many options in the store are the best value? This one is a little harder to answer because it depends on your collection (and gaps therein), region, platform(mobile pays a premium etc), and the store itself doesn’t show all the same offers to everyone.
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Loving excavate Warlock. Played a bit of dragon Druid, didn't click with me. On the lookout for an excavate weapon rogue list, I think it might be a real degen deck to crush greed. ### snake # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Wolf # # 2x (1) Armor Vendor # 1x (1) Chaotic Consumption # 2x (1) Fracking # 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide # 2x (1) Smokestack # 2x (1) Tour Guide # 2x (2) Defile # 2x (2) Greedy Partner # 2x (2) Kobold Miner # 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster # 2x (2) Youthful Brewmaster # 2x (3) Mortal Eradication # 2x (3) Reverberations # 1x (3) Zola the Gorgon # 2x (4) Mo'arg Drillfist # 2x (5) Burrow Buster # 1x (7) Tram Conductor Gerry # AAECAZ2rBATlsASW1ATu/QWnqAYNnKAEyOsF+vkF8YAGkIMGyoMG0IMG2JgG75sGhJ4Gz54G16IG+KMGAAA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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fanny packrat posted:Loving excavate Warlock. Played a bit of dragon Druid, didn't click with me. On the lookout for an excavate weapon rogue list, I think it might be a real degen deck to crush greed. It's fun to play except the mirror match is kind of a drag and so far that's more than 50% of the decks I've faced today. Anyone else get weird graphical slowdown when playing the snake?
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If you want to get ahead of the curve while piloting snek warlock, include a chaddius so you can just do your thing in a single turn once you hit 10 mana and even polarity. ### diggy hole # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Wolf # # 2x (1) Armor Vendor # 2x (1) Smokestack # 2x (2) Defile # 2x (2) Kobold Miner # 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster # 2x (2) Youthful Brewmaster # 2x (3) Forge of Wills # 1x (3) Mortal Eradication # 2x (3) Reverberations # 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath # 2x (4) Mo'arg Drillfist # 2x (5) Burrow Buster # 2x (6) Doomkin # 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir # 1x (7) Tram Conductor Gerry # 1x (8) Gigafin # 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer # 1x (10) Thaddius, Monstrosity # AAECAa35Awb1xwTOkgXCpQX6+QWm+wWnqAYMnKAEyOsF1/oF7f0FzoAG8YAGyoMG0IMG2JgG75sGz54G+KMGAAA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone It's just the highest WR warlock on d0nkey.top, but with chad instead of zola. You don't have to do the awkward bounce dance across multiple turns.
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rip https://twitter.com/GallonHS/status/1724863072505073841
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I'm really curious how they missed snake in play testing since the deck pretty much builds itself
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Firebert posted:I'm really curious how they missed snake in play testing since the deck pretty much builds itself yeah, especially since they thought it prudent to add even more brewmasters to the set for maximum consistency. wonder what the nerf will be though, how they decide to balance this without killing it. Oenis fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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I don’t understand why it was stealing from max health too. Lifesteal would have been fine? Still a strong payoff
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People complain about Azerite snake but naga DH is cancer. Really fun when they clear my 10hp board and deal 28 damage to my face from hand on turn 6. Super fun and interactive gameplay.
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The only ethical deck is Rogue Oger
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Scholtz posted:The only ethical deck is Rogue Oger No ethical Hearthstone except Duels
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Chernabog posted:People complain about Azerite snake but naga DH is cancer. Really fun when they clear my 10hp board and deal 28 damage to my face from hand on turn 6. Super fun and interactive gameplay. Yeah it'll get a nerf after warlock I reckon.
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Chernabog posted:People complain about Azerite snake but naga DH is cancer. Really fun when they clear my 10hp board and deal 28 damage to my face from hand on turn 6. Super fun and interactive gameplay. The big difference is there’s actual counter play for DH. For the snake if you can’t kill the Warlock before they can bounce it 3 times then the only counter play is RNG hand disruption like Dirty rat or Theotar
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RatHat posted:The big difference is there’s actual counter play for DH. For the snake if you can’t kill the Warlock before they can bounce it 3 times then the only counter play is RNG hand disruption like Dirty rat or Theotar Sort of, having a big board should counter it but they can still deal insane amounts of damage by turn 6.
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I played naga DH, if your opponent has 1 taunt alive when you have nothing left but your hero swing, you lose. Dragon Druid is the big counter here, a snapdragon-buffed chain gang needs luck to burst through, a Dragon Golem is a straight up concede. Hilariously, Taunt Warrior also stops you cold. You get to farm Warlocks though and the ladder is full of them, so climbing is still pretty easy.
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so what's the most broken poo poo we can play right now so i can try to have some fun before they nerf everything into a wet towel again?
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They've already announced that snake warlock gets a hotfix nerf tomorrow, so, that.
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Scholtz posted:The only ethical deck is Rogue Oger Well yeah, that deck is so much fun. Looking forward for a more refinded version. Playing the Gang Boss 5 times feels so good.
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Yeah the ogre package feels super strong in any class that can duplicate Pud(notably Priest and Rogue, but I bet Shaman could make it work too)
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I know a few of you were playing this so here's the latest: ### Beasty Boys 3.0 # Class: Hunter # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Devouring Swarm # 2x (0) Serpentbloom # 2x (1) Alleycat # 2x (1) Awakening Tremors # 2x (1) Sneaky Snakes # 2x (1) Wolpertinger # 2x (2) Starving Buzzard # 1x (3) Acidmaw # 1x (3) Dreadscale # 2x (3) Harpoon Gun # 2x (3) Master's Call # 2x (5) Shadehound # 2x (5) Tundra Rhino # 1x (6) Beaststalker Tavish # 2x (6) Hollow Hound # 1x (6) Hope of Quel'Thalas # 1x (7) Hydralodon # 1x (8) Stranglethorn Heart # AAEBAZ/DAwbJFMoU25EE57kEsJMF0/gFDLsF2QnquwKkiAOizgPm7gOU/AODyATA7QSP5AXI9gXLjgYAAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone And here is new Reno Hunter, which is kind of absurdly good: ### Reno Hunter # Class: Hunter # Format: Wild # # 1x (0) Devouring Swarm # 1x (0) Serpentbloom # 1x (1) Awakening Tremors # 1x (2) Barrel of Monkeys # 1x (2) Cat Trick # 1x (2) Dun Baldar Bunker # 1x (2) Explosive Trap # 1x (2) Grievous Bite # 1x (2) Hidden Meaning # 1x (2) Ice Trap # 1x (2) Pressure Plate # 1x (2) Selective Breeder # 1x (2) Snipe # 1x (2) Wandering Monster # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 1x (2) ZOMBEEEES!!! # 1x (3) Acidmaw # 1x (3) Cloaked Huntress # 1x (3) Dreadscale # 1x (3) Harpoon Gun # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 1x (3) Stitched Tracker # 1x (4) E.T.C., Band Manager # 1x (0) Devouring Swarm # 1x (0) Serpentbloom # 1x (6) Trial of the Jormungars # 1x (4) Stormpike Battle Ram # 1x (4) Theldurin the Lost # 1x (5) Star Power # 1x (5) Subject 9 # 1x (5) Tundra Rhino # 1x (6) Aggramar, the Avenger # 1x (6) Beaststalker Tavish # 1x (6) Deathstalker Rexxar # 1x (6) Hollow Hound # 1x (6) Reno Jackson # 1x (6) Trial of the Jormungars # 1x (7) Dinotamer Brann # 1x (7) Hydralodon # 1x (7) Mountain Bear # 1x (8) Reno, Lone Ranger # 1x (8) Stranglethorn Heart # 1x (10) Zul'jin # AAEBAa/XAyi7Ba4GyRTKFMMW+LECxLQChsMC080C39IChtMCp4IDm4UD/KMDn6UDpqUD6ukD5u4DlPwDq40E25EE458E2KME5aQEma0E57kEg8gEl+8Ep6QF/cQFj+QF6vIF8/IFyPYF0vgF0/gF1/kF1I4GmaEGr6gGAAABA+buA/3EBZT8A/3EBZmhBv3EBQAA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Sharpshooter is just a dumb card. Who watches Spitelash make everyone miserable every time it approached constructed relevance for two years and thinks “what the hell, let’s print a better one”? Let’s cut Auctioneer from Core because it only ever causes problems, then print one that costs three mana and also is its own win condition. Nerf every card around Lady S’theno, then S’theno herself, then print a version you can play two copies of.
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Just play this, saw Jambre go something like 25-2 on stream and climb to top 50 with it: ### Custom Hunter # Class: Hunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Wolf # # 2x (1) Always a Bigger Jormungar # 2x (1) Awakening Tremors # 2x (1) Thornmantle Musician # 2x (1) Trinket Tracker # 2x (2) Absorbent Parasite # 2x (2) Barrel of Monkeys # 2x (2) Bestial Madness # 2x (2) Conjured Arrow # 2x (2) Gold Panner # 2x (2) Messenger Buzzard # 2x (2) Selective Breeder # 2x (4) Azerite Chain Gang # 2x (4) Stonebound Gargon # 1x (6) Aggramar, the Avenger # 2x (6) Hollow Hound # 1x (6) Hope of Quel'Thalas # AAECAZerBAKwkwXX+QUO6ukDvOMEp5AFqqQF5soFj+QFmfYFyPYF0vgF5PgF344G/ZQG5ZUGzpwGAAA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone I put something just like this together before the new set came out, but Buzzard puts it over the top. It's going to get a lot of traction.
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