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Specifically on the "Jake working out" stuff: Jake said (I think it was on Colt Cabana's podcast) that he'd decided to start getting in better shape. Not because he wanted to be like the muscleheads Vince usually pushed, but just to get himself looking better. I forget who he said his workout partners were, but they were helping him get good results: he started getting a more defined chest, started cutting some weight around his midsection, even started getting the "rounded" shoulders of a well-built weightlifter. Then one day, he gets called into the office by Vince, who proceeds to tear him a new rear end in a top hat about the "new look" he had from working out and lifting weights, and I think Jake said he told him he already had a bunch of buff dudes running around, he didn't need Jake to be one too. He preferred Jake's "sleazy" look (which was basically just Jake's normal look: a long, lanky dude with not a lot of muscle tone). Jake didn't really understand Vince's mindset, but he was signing the checks, so he quit working out like Vince said. Also we shouldn't forget what Jake used to say about the DDT in interviews (both in the WWF and prior to his arrival there). He often came up with a bunch of different meanings for the acronym, but the best one was definitely something along these lines: Interviewer: What do the letters "DDT" mean? Jake (smiling): The end.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Then one day, he gets called into the office by Vince, who proceeds to tear him a new rear end in a top hat about the "new look" he had from working out and lifting weights, and I think Jake said he told him he already had a bunch of buff dudes running around, he didn't need Jake to be one too. He preferred Jake's "sleazy" look (which was basically just Jake's normal look: a long, lanky dude with not a lot of muscle tone). Jake didn't really understand Vince's mindset, but he was signing the checks, so he quit working out like Vince said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjHOtxCRhnw
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:wrestling is messed up because it mixes real life and fiction together in a way where you cant tell if its real or a work and thats why so many wrestlers go insane "don't work yourself into a shoot" I keep telling myself as I doxx a co-workers family because that's what my character would do.
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Gavok posted:At least they knew to turn Jake face. They pulled the trigger on his face turn by having the hated Honky Tonk Man as a guest on the Snake Pit. Honky Tonk ended up smashing Jake with his guitar... way too hard. It was not gimmicked enough or at all and caused some major damage to Jake. wasn't the issue he smashed him with an actual guitar with a fiberglass finish and not a breakaway prop guitar? (Honky Tonk's defense on the incident was he cut it up with a knife prior to make it more brittle and break easier) you can see how bad the initial hit is with Honky Tonk Man then just hesitantly hitting him in the shoulder a few more times to finish selling the beat down. Jake said that he blew out his C6 and C7 from the incident, which led him to abusing pain medication to dull to pain so he could continue working, which led to... well yeah Honky Tonk Man of course disputes this characterization and posted a bunch of pretty hosed up tweets he ended up deleting, only archived copies I could pull up below     
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In more 'man, addiction is bad, and pro wrestling chews people up, grinds them between the teeth, spits them out, and then steps on them', Tammy Lynn "Sunny" Sytch might be spending the rest of her life in prison. Also, no fooling with the Jake and Grizzly Smith backstory. I would gladly give up any chance of 'afterlife punishment' for Vince and Hogan for their crimes and sins if it guaranteed that Smith was burning in a richly deserved hell.
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lol what a stupid loving rear end in a top hat
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"What about Savage, Warrior, and Snuka? I hit them, too, and they turned out just fine!"
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Honky Tonk has always seemed like a greasy rear end in a top hat on every interview I've seen. I think Jake stopped trying to make excuses for his addiction a long time ago too. Wasn't that just something he said in that Beyond the Mat documentary when he was a complete junky? The one where he tries to reconnect with his daughter then smokes crack in a hotel room.
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Cornwind Evil posted:In more 'man, addiction is bad, and pro wrestling chews people up, grinds them between the teeth, spits them out, and then steps on them', Tammy Lynn "Sunny" Sytch might be spending the rest of her life in prison. Both of them were covered on Dark Side of the Ring. The Grizzly Smith stuff is loving insane and monstrous. Jake said something that boiled down to "I died as a real person as a kid, Jake the Snake was born out of that trauma" and it really stuck with me. Sunny is sad because she seems like she would have had a much better life had she just stuck to a normal, boring life with Candido. I remember as a kid watching the bits in "Wrestling With Shadows" where she's hanging out with Bret Hart and his kid. She just seemed like a nice person, like she would have been a cool friend of your parents that comes over to visit sometimes.
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In a more heartwarming bit of news that I wasn't previously aware of, apparently Jake and his ex-wife Cheryl (who was involved in his WWF feud with Rick Rude, including the infamous "Cheryl Roberts' face on Rude's tights" moment) have reunited after 24 years and are talking about getting married again. 
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mannerup posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwEQ7bMpx-k&t=150s You can tell Honky Tonk is full of poo poo because guitars generally aren't finished in fiberglass. It would have been either nitrocellulose or some kind of polyacrylic coating over the wood, almost certainly nitro. The problem is the back of the guitar was probably a big piece of mahogany that he was swinging from near the headstock as a big fulcrum and he probably didn't remove nearly enough of the bracing despite what he says.
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Prof. Crocodile posted:"What about Savage, Warrior, and Snuka? I hit them, too, and they turned out just fine!" lol
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I love that he mentions Brutus Beefcake. The guy that lost his job as a subway toll taker and went to rehab after creating an anthrax scare in the Boston MBTA because he left a big bag of coke in the booth.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I love that he mentions Brutus Beefcake. The guy that lost his job as a subway toll taker and went to rehab after creating an anthrax scare in the Boston MBTA because he left a big bag of coke in the booth. losing a big bag of coke must be a lovely feeling
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Beefers return promo from the parasailing accident is amazing. He starts talking about the accident to little reaction and then angrily cuts a promo on his ex-wife for leaving him while a guy in the crowd loudly shouts "I wish you had died" or something. It's so unexpectedly hostile from an early 90s wwf crowd
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People were getting tired of Hogan too, and Beefcake has never been anything but Hogan's little sidekick.
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wikipedia posted:On November 7, 2013, Leslie appeared at Toronto City Hall with a pair of shears and a submarine sandwich, claiming mayor Rob Ford "needed an intervention" in the wake of a high-profile crack cocaine scandal. Leslie offered to be Ford's "angel of mercy", saying "Maybe if he gets his body right, he will be able to get his mind right". Security escorted him from the property when it became apparent that Leslie was attempting to promote a brand of submarine sandwiches. lmfao it's got everything: Rob Ford, severely injured pro wrestlers, cocaine, and grinders MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Nov 16, 2023 |
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Meat Wagon posted:Beefers return promo from the parasailing accident is amazing. He starts talking about the accident to little reaction and then angrily cuts a promo on his ex-wife for leaving him while a guy in the crowd loudly shouts "I wish you had died" or something. It's so unexpectedly hostile from an early 90s wwf crowd lmfao i'm going to have to find this
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Meat Wagon posted:Beefers return promo from the parasailing accident is amazing. He starts talking about the accident to little reaction and then angrily cuts a promo on his ex-wife for leaving him while a guy in the crowd loudly shouts "I wish you had died" or something. It's so unexpectedly hostile from an early 90s wwf crowd Dude waited for a pause and screamed "KILL YOURSELF!!" It was the early 90s but it was also in the Manhattan Center which was kind of a shithole at the time. EDIT: For reference, the Hammerstein Ballroom is in the same building. Pope Corky the IX fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Nov 16, 2023 |
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MrQwerty posted:lmfao it had sheiky there too
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or maybe that was a different incident involving rob ford and wrestling
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:or maybe that was a different incident involving rob ford and wrestling according to the article Sheik tried to challenge Rob Ford to an arm wrestling match the day prior and was denied then Beefcake showed up to hock hoagies and talk about smoking blow lmao
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Cornwind Evil posted:In more 'man, addiction is bad, and pro wrestling chews people up, grinds them between the teeth, spits them out, and then steps on them', Tammy Lynn "Sunny" Sytch might be spending the rest of her life in prison. Holy fuckin cock poo poo, she likes to drive drunk.
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Baron von Eevl posted:You can tell Honky Tonk is full of poo poo because guitars generally aren't finished in fiberglass. It would have been either nitrocellulose or some kind of polyacrylic coating over the wood, almost certainly nitro. The problem is the back of the guitar was probably a big piece of mahogany that he was swinging from near the headstock as a big fulcrum and he probably didn't remove nearly enough of the bracing despite what he says. I always assumed they had a deal with some guitar maker to get acoustics made out of poo poo wood with no supports inside but of course that was giving them too much credit Trying posted:losing a big bag of coke must be a lovely feeling I found a little baggy of coke on the floor of the store I work at a couple months ago lol
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wesleywillis posted:Holy fuckin cock poo poo, she likes to drive drunk. She was so unrepentant about her DUIs and substance abuse, that at one point she literally said going to rehab was just a joke to her. I think it was shortly after that, that WWE said the offer to send former talent to rehab for substance abuse, free of charge (which they were doing for PR purposes after the Benoit murders/suicide), was no longer being offered to her specifically any more. I think they'd paid for her rehab at least twice, too, possibly even more than that.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:She was so unrepentant about her DUIs and substance abuse, that at one point she literally said going to rehab was just a joke to her. I think it was shortly after that, that WWE said the offer to send former talent to rehab for substance abuse, free of charge (which they were doing for PR purposes after the Benoit murders/suicide), was no longer being offered to her specifically any more. I think they'd paid for her rehab at least twice, too, possibly even more than that.
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That other guy, too. "Hey man, what the gently caress. I was doing a move here!"
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:beefcake has had so many gimmicks that his gimmick is having too many gimmicks It’s definitely been posted itt but beefer chat is always a good excuse to post this classic for the uninitiated: https://youtu.be/V7OPKZLrOTs?feature=shared BodyMassageMachine fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Nov 16, 2023 |
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Joe is cool as hell but it's also worth noting that his opponent here is Jon Cruz aka Serpentico aka Ben Dejo. He's figured out how to be a jobber as a heel and a face and how to job in Ring of Honor, too. Not quite on Beefcake's level but still pretty impressive gimmick work.
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BodyMassageMachine posted:It’s definitely been posted itt but beefer chat is always a good excuse to post this classic for the uninitiated: Should’ve been the Clit Master instead of Clip Master.
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A Fancy Hat posted:Ben Dejo lmao
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A Fancy Hat posted:Ben Dejo For many years my favorite wrestling name has been Matt Classic. Today i am overjoyed to have learned of a new favorite wrestling name.
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