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harperdc posted:I’m still convinced the King Ranch/fancy pickup truck stuff is because what general Americans want is a big leather couch with a lazy V8, and the OEMs can’t make land barge coupes or sedans anymore due to the crash/fuel efficiency rules. Pickups and SUVs having a loophole from the U.S. government is just allowing that. You're not wrong. RIP the Mercury marque.
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harperdc posted:I’m still convinced the King Ranch/fancy pickup truck stuff is because what general Americans want is a big leather couch with a lazy V8, and the OEMs can’t make land barge coupes or sedans anymore due to the crash/fuel efficiency rules. Pickups and SUVs having a loophole from the U.S. government is just allowing that. It's a combination of this, perception of rugged individualism, perception of utility, and Americans being too big to fit in small cars anymore. 
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I thought I wanted a V90 when I was shopping to replace my 2009 9-5 estate. I test drove a PowerPulse diesel and it was really disappointing. Visibility was dire, the turbo lag was really noticeable, the automatic gearbox regularly got the wrong gear and it felt a lot smaller on the inside than the Saab despite technically having more space. It was also way less engaging to drive. The V90 is a beautiful thing but not a very good car, at least for the money. I ended up with a Superb 280 which has a bunch of Skoda jank, and is missing a lot of the clever storage of the Volvo but makes up for it with way more space. It's also less fun than the Saab, despite having half the 0-60 time but it's a nice, sensible family car that can occasionally go very fast.
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wesleywillis posted:^^^^^^ I had the unfortunate incident of having our live bait cooler spill in the back of the xB, not a horrendous amount but enough to make the car smell like fish for the rest of the day lol. Thankfully I have a protective cover over the cargo floor area so i washed it off and it was fine but it could have been way worse, if it spilled the entire contents i would have been screwed and probably had to replace the entire carpet and padding in the car. That incident kinda woke me up to the fact that if i'm gonna be doing a lot of fishing and towing I'm gonna need a better vehicle for the job. As far as keeping things secured, I figured I'd just get some sort of locking hard cover that lifts up or rolls back or something. The Maverick hybrid is perfect for my needs, economy for city driving and the bed plus towing up to 2k pounds is awesome. I've considered the ecoboost but I'm a bit leery with all the issues ford has been having with them lately, besides 40mpg with the hybrid would be great. I'll probably end up driving them both tho.
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harperdc posted:I’m still convinced the King Ranch/fancy pickup truck stuff is because what general Americans want is a big leather couch with a lazy V8, and the OEMs can’t make land barge coupes or sedans anymore due to the crash/fuel efficiency rules. Pickups and SUVs having a loophole from the U.S. government is just allowing that. They are nice vehicles to own if you can park it somewhere and can afford the fuel costs. NVH and overall refinement in the F150 is pretty spectacular now, the interior on a new F150 is quieter than our new X5. The long wheelbase and acoustic glass work. They have a very good assist system in BlueCruise and a 700+ mile highway range. Hard to beat for a road trip. I think you'd have to be considering a 7 series, Audi A8, S Class type vehicle to top it. If I could fit one in the garage at work I'd be driving a Lightning today.
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Hyundai has partnered with Amazon to start selling cars on Amazon. I understand the benefit to Amazon, but I'm wondering what Hyundai gets out of this. Do they figure that since people are in a buying mindset while on Amazon so maybe they'll buy a car if it's suggested to them? Are there that many Amazon users that aren't familiar with Hyundai? Is it more of a demographics issue that younger people are more likely to buy something through Amazon so why not a car? https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/amazon-sell-hyundai-vehicles-online-starting-2024-2023-11-16/ quote:Amazon to sell Hyundai vehicles online starting in 2024
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I believe you still have to complete the transaction at a dealer, and go "in the box" so they can sell you trucoat. So it's kinda bullshit. It'd be incredible if they were going for more of a Tesla model but I don't see that happening.
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I mean Hyundai dealers are definitely in the running for the worst US network so any less interaction with them would be a positive even if you still have to go physically pick it up
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"Sir there was a problem with the Amazon paperwork lets step into my office real quick to redo it"
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Can I haggle with Amazon?!
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Nohearum posted:"Sir there was a problem with the Amazon paperwork lets step into my office real quick to redo it" Yeah probably not gonna work out but the promise is at least "you will not have to talk to the Hyundai dealer... as much" Uhhhhh yeah we added 600 for... nitrogen in the tires
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This sounds like the Costco Auto Program except probably worse somehow.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Hyundai has partnered with Amazon to start selling cars on Amazon. I understand the benefit to Amazon, but I'm wondering what Hyundai gets out of this. Do they figure that since people are in a buying mindset while on Amazon so maybe they'll buy a car if it's suggested to them? Are there that many Amazon users that aren't familiar with Hyundai? Is it more of a demographics issue that younger people are more likely to buy something through Amazon so why not a car? Fiat started doing sales over amazon.it for 500 and panda since a decade ago, buyers gets a welcome pack with an order code to be claimed online which then gets managed by the closest dealer.
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It strikes me as a step towards the "transparent / mo haggle pricing" kind of philosophy to appeal to younger buyers without them having to invest much to develop an online presence. I better get 5% Back from my Amazon Prime credit card
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Sab669 posted:It strikes me as a step towards the "transparent / mo haggle pricing" kind of philosophy to appeal to younger buyers without them having to invest much to develop an online presence. Stellantis is currently on a "this is the list price, gently caress you if you expect any discount" stance on any BTO cars of theirs for Europe. Good to avoid markups, bad because you won't see any price cut if you want/need any option.
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SlowBloke posted:Stellantis is currently on a "this is the list price, gently caress you if you expect any discount" stance on any BTO cars of theirs for Europe. Good to avoid markups, bad because you won't see any price cut if you want/need any option. Meanwhile you can buy a Jeep or an Alfa in the USA for 10k plus off MSRP!
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New Renault Twingo is electric and supposedly under 20 000 €. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M00seiYhiGg
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DanTheFryingPan posted:New Renault Twingo is electric and supposedly under 20 000 €. It looks like someone explaining an old Twingo over a telephone. The front lights are the worst part.
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I like it, it’s cute
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:lol at the three hood vents I hope one of them is the washer fluid fill.
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Mitsuoka M55 concept.    
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That would be a cool two door vehicle.
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Too bad Honda doesn't make a two door civic they could use as a base for one.
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Powershift posted:Mitsuoka M55 concept. Is it amphibious?
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Powershift posted:Mitsuoka M55 concept. Its too thick in the middle to have those small accents at the front and rear. 2024 M55 GPOS
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New Twingo looks charming. The Challenger-face civic doesn't really look good, but I hope Mitsuoka never stops being weird. Meanwhile, here's Cadillac's new entry-level SUV, the Optiq: https://www.carscoops.com/2023/11/embargo-nov-17-at-9-am-cadillac-optiq-debuts-as-brands-entry-level-electric-crossover/  Looks dull to me, but I appreciate Cadillac is back to naming cars again. Even nonsense names.
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Wifi Toilet posted:Is it amphibious? It can act as a boat for a short time.
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 AISS 2023: This Wednesday 11/22 is the last day to sign up! Did you catch a joke probation, make a super embarrassing post complaining about it, and need some holiday cheer to get you back in the shitposting spirit? Then sign up for Automotive Insanity's Secret Santa! Some goon will send you a random assortment of items, mostly some broken car parts, and there is an option for penis-emblazonment. I have enjoyed it so much over the years that I volunteered to pick up the mantle from slothrop and organize it for 2023. So come on down and spread the holiday
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There a dealership in Alabama selling 700 hp F150 base model sleepers https://autos.yahoo.com/alabama-dealer-selling-705-hp-211527870.html
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removing the tailgate and slamming the gas at the light and spinning off into a ditch faster than the mustang can
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That's the only way to sell single cab trucks these days
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Applebees Appetizer posted:There a dealership in Alabama selling 700 hp F150 base model sleepers Oh look, it's got an actual usable sized tray too. OBAMNA PHONE posted:That's the only way to sell single cab trucks these days It's absurd that what you say is true, because the modern dual cab is just so much crap and the single cab is a far better utility vehicle.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:There a dealership in Alabama selling 700 hp F150 base model sleepers I’d rather have a TRX but you can’t beat that for the money.
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AISS 2023: LAST CHANCE, PROCRASTINATORS!
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Powershift posted:Mitsuoka M55 concept. Nice Mustang
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You wanna talk about a car that shouldn’t have four doors…
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Criticizing Mitsuoka for making a car too mundane is proof that we are approaching the terminus of our civilization.
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Powershift posted:Mitsuoka M55 concept. Oh man what are those things on the rear window called Used to see aftermarket kits for em a lot more in the 90s
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