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Every time people talk about banning a sort of hit or tackle there’s always a chorus of “however will they play defense now!?” and yet they seem to manage just fine. And tbh even though I like Queen he’s not exactly the one to be talking because he’s never seen a tackle he doesn’t want to let a guy break
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Cavauro posted:In response to a question about hip-drop tackles at his end-of-season media briefing, NFL chief medical officer Allen Sills acknowledged on Feb. 3 that the league had begun studying the risk posed by “that type of tackle.” Sills added that “it needs to be a very active discussion point again with the competition committee and others” during the offseason. They’re banned in rugby because it kept snapping ankles. I assumed they were banned in the NFL alongside horse collars
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The Bucking Bronco Boys will defeat the Villainous Vikings!!!!!!
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 18:10 |
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Queen is a bonafide dumb guy. If you can't play defense without throwing all your body weight on top of a dude's achilles you don't belong in the NFL.
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can anyone with a WaPo sub post that Josh Dobbs article, tia
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Demon Of The Fall posted:can anyone with a WaPo sub post that Josh Dobbs article, tia https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/11/17/josh-dobbs-vikings-nasa-quarterback/ quote:The Minnesota Vikings’ offense includes plays coaches refer to as “deep cuts.” They can be deployed in any game and are so ingrained that they need not be installed and practiced each week — “always alive,” in coaches’ parlance. Minnesota relies on deep cuts when operating its two-minute offense. Every Vikings offensive player should know them, unless he is a quarterback who arrived four days before kickoff and was given a backup’s preparation. Barry Bluejeans fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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a neat cape posted:The Rangers are pretty good! Hell yeah they just won the World Series!
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Queen is a bonafide dumb guy. If you can't play defense without throwing all your body weight on top of a dude's achilles you don't belong in the NFL. You think thats what Logan Wilson tries to do with every tackle?
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Ngl and don’t tell anyone in the nfcn thread, but I am extremely pro Dobbs and I hope the pocket scientist gets his chance
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Ngl and don’t tell anyone in the nfcn thread, but I am extremely pro Dobbs and I hope the pocket scientist gets his chance i loved him at Tennessee and I likewise am so happy he is being successful
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Ngl and don’t tell anyone in the nfcn thread, but I am extremely pro Dobbs and I hope the pocket scientist gets his chance Same, he rules and I like the Vikings squad as well
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:11 |
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My first NFL jersey is a Vikings Dobbs jersey.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:24 |
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bows1 posted:You think thats what Logan Wilson tries to do with every tackle? That’s a real bad interpretation of his post
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:27 |
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https://twitter.com/jonas_shaffer/status/1725563234600583574 imagine experiencing this as an athlete
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Queen is a bonafide dumb guy. If you can't play defense without throwing all your body weight on top of a dude's achilles you don't belong in the NFL. Legit question as I'm reading a lot of defensive player takes where legislating away head impacts has caused an increase in lower body injuries. https://x.com/RSherman_25/status/1725559848769667298?s=20
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:46 |
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it would be something if they incentivized fewer dangerous plays by continually using player instinct tendencies of the past 10 years; looked at how the game had been played during that period and made it better to do something else instead of more dangerous moves. when it is "taken care of" by telling people to either do nothing useful or take a penalty, that means more penalties and that isn't a complaint about penalties but about the efficacy of that being a solution. there are dozens of horse collar penalties each season even though it was banned 18 years ago and peoples' response to that is definitely, "that's good. you're bad if you think that's bad," instead of seeing it as not enough. the extent that everyone is really willing to go to improve player safety is adding extra stoppages per game because a lazy fear of changing the stuff that was thought up 100 years ago when everyone was slow and the same size. occasionally adding little amendments to some of its fringes is the best we've got. you'd almost compare football players from many decades ago to something very powerful and dangerous of its time, and then modern players to a modern version of that dangerous and powerful thing, and see that they're still governed by largely the same set of inadequate rules. off the top of my head current forward progress doesn't need to be the only version of being "stopped" that exists. the meaning of that could be several of many different things for different situations which even out the logistic responsibilities between defenders versus the people who are allowed to fight tooth and nail against them. obviously the reason you look into that in the first place is because the hip drop is banned but it would make more sense to attack it with multiple prongs to stop the actual problem and to take care of people. t wouldn't be just waiting for the next severe practical issue. the steelers are winning the super bowl on february 11th, 2024.
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Cavauro posted:it would be something if they incentivized fewer dangerous plays by continually using player instinct tendencies of the past 10 years; looked at how the game had been played during that period and made it better to do something else instead of more dangerous moves. when it is "taken care of" by telling people to either do nothing useful or take a penalty, that means more penalties and that isn't a complaint about penalties but about the efficacy of that being a solution. there are dozens of horse collar penalties each season even though it was banned 18 years ago and peoples' response to that is definitely, "that's good. you're bad if you think that's bad," instead of seeing it as not enough. the extent that everyone is really willing to go to improve player safety is adding extra stoppages per game because a lazy fear of changing the stuff that was thought up 100 years ago when everyone was slow and the same size. occasionally adding little amendments to some of its fringes is the best we've got. you'd almost compare football players from many decades ago to something very powerful and dangerous of its time, and then modern players to a modern version of that dangerous and powerful thing, and see that they're still governed by largely the same set of inadequate rules.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:57 |
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Passtronaut makes me irrationally giddy and I giggle like a kid
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 20:11 |
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Josh Dobbs somehow ends up with Matt Patricia and the rocket scientist jokes will never end.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Josh Dobbs somehow ends up with Matt Patricia and the rocket scientist jokes will never end.
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Please I can only handle the Michigan hubris in one thread at a time
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Freaquency posted:That’s a real bad interpretation of his post hes saying hes a dirty player and cant tackle without doing that. Im saying that perhaps Puppy is disappointed that an awesome player got injured on his team and is taking it out on a guy that isnt dirty or a headhunter, and is overreacting.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 21:08 |
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also Joe Burrow out for the season
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this is just a video clip of Marcus Williams trying to tackle Njoku last week
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sharknado slashfic posted:Please I can only handle the Michigan hubris in one thread at a time I couldn’t help myself I’m sorry. The rest of the post really is good tho
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bows1 posted:hes saying hes a dirty player and cant tackle without doing that. He’s saying that Queen is dumb to say you have to hip drop tackle in the NFL, as evidenced by all of the tackles that don’t involve throwing the defensive player’s full weight on their target’s ankles.
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The hip-drop tackle in consideration doesn't just mean dropping your weight, it means doing so directly onto the ankles/lower legs of the runner - there are tackles where you drop your body weight to get the tackle done but not onto the runner's legs directly.
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Gully Foyle posted:The hip-drop tackle in consideration doesn't just mean dropping your weight, it means doing so directly onto the ankles/lower legs of the runner - there are tackles where you drop your body weight to get the tackle done but not onto the runner's legs directly. yeah this was confusing me a little cause I was thinking 'isnt this basically a rugby tackle?' you wrap up their hips, and then slide down to their legs/feet and this stops them from running. but i think a traditional rugby tackle lets the runner dive forward a couple yards more where as a hip-drop kinda rolls them up and helps save a yard or whatever. actually i'm probably still confused.
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Ooof rest of bengals schedule is tough. Strong slate of winning record teams.
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https://twitter.com/BCFootballFans/status/1725338794981761410 Keaton Mitchell with a miraculous block here
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Freaquency posted:He’s saying that Queen is dumb to say you have to hip drop tackle in the NFL, as evidenced by all of the tackles that don’t involve throwing the defensive player’s full weight on their target’s ankles. On re-reading the post in question, perhaps yes I misinterpreted it.
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AndrewP posted:https://twitter.com/BCFootballFans/status/1725338794981761410
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AndrewP posted:https://twitter.com/BCFootballFans/status/1725338794981761410 I remember laughing at that cause it looked like Mitchell was basically outrunning Flowers and realized he had to slow down a little bit to keep that block
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Yeah Mitchell is gonna be a lot of fun. Watching him turn on the jets to block on that ruled
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Demon Of The Fall posted:can anyone with a WaPo sub post that Josh Dobbs article, tia for future reference you can feed most links into https://archive.ph and it'll bypass paywalls for you
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Fate Accomplice posted:for future reference you can feed most links into https://archive.ph and it'll bypass paywalls for you It owns
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Punish them by making them move to STL.
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Well this season loving sucks. Just snakebit.
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 02:39 |
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The curse of bobby layne has been lifted from the Lions and now casts a dark shadow upon the rest of the league The Lions will win the Super Bowl this year, which will open the 7th seal and judgement will be exacted against the NFL, the referees, and the Green Bay Packers
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:The curse of bobby layne has been lifted from the Lions and now casts a dark shadow upon the rest of the league so real talk I think the better narrative is the Lions take the NFC but lose at the Super Bowl, so next year pops off that much harder. also maybe we can get, you know, another Mi-*yanked unceremoniously off stage*
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