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Trade request please! I want to get off Mister Abi's wild ride. Abi for either of my alternate picks - Wakamotoharu or Kotonowaka - if either is free, if not then it's fate. I've been completely undone by deliberately putting my favourite boys at the top of each pick and getting my draft in early. Don't be like me, be like Shodai.
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Brut posted:numbers Transparency that real rikishi can only dream of!
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Taffy Torpedo posted:Endo's gonna turn it around now for sure. Fingers crossed. He and Roga are dragging my team down. Hoping week two will be kinder to them.
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That's a wonderful tracker. A fine addition to Kenning's hard work. We really are spoiled in this sumo thread.
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Nativity In Black posted:Fingers crossed. He and Roga are dragging my team down. Hoping week two will be kinder to them. Yep, Ura and Roga are my boat anchors atm. Ura will keep. He started off the week with five sanyaku matches in a row, so I'm hoping that the worst of the meatgrinder is past and he'll scrape out some wins versus the rest of the maegashira and get his momentum back. Roga, idk. If he gets dunked by Takara-loving-fuji then I'm trading him. (TBF, it was a risky pick; most wrestlers' first time in makuuchi is a wakeup call. I remember picking Atamifuji on his first basho at M15 after watching him crush in juryo -- and he got steamrolled 4-11, insta-demoted, and spent four bashos in juryo getting his head back on straight before he came back in his current form.)
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Nishikigi continues to be my dude and we are welcoming all onto the bandwagon. He is In a place where he will always get you your KK.
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Beeswax posted:Yeah I put that down to google translate having an aneurysm with Japanese or something. i don't know how it got toko from the first kanji but i know that some shikona aren't exactly obvious for natives which is part of the reason why they always have the hiragana pronounciation shown above the kanji during broadcasts
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Tracker is now updated to Day 6 This assumes the following trades went through before Day 6: Taffy Torpedo - Tohakuryu to Ichiyamamoto Single Tight Female - Abi to Wakamotoharu I'll revise if Kenning confirms differently.
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I've just decided to give watching sumo a try and having a lot of fun so far! My decision has coincided with the start of the November tournament, so I've been watching the NHK highlights the last 4 nights and am really enjoying them. Having little background narratives, as communicated by the commentators, enhances the enjoyment of just watching the sport itself, for example Daieishō's bid for ōzeki and Takakeisho gunning for yokozuma (though he lost on day 4, whoops; I suppose that's not the biggest setback as long as his record this month is good overall, and assuming he wins the required 2nd tournament in a row this month... I know it's not guaranteed though). Anyway, I know a lot more about sumo than I did a week ago, and I'm looking forward to escaping from my visiting in-laws this evening and watching day 5. Couple of questions: 1. This tournament seems to only be for Makuuchi - I am only seeing Maegashira upwards; or is that just the highlights and there are wrestlers from lower divisions also competing? 2. Are all members of the Makuuchi competing each tournament; if not, how is it decided who does and who does not? 3. Does the rule of members of the same stable not being able to compete against each other ever cause issues with setup? Presumably not everyone fights everyone in a given tournament, given they only do 15 bouts, so there's that, but do you ever get a situation where all or most, let's say for example ōzeki, are in the same stable and don't ever get to compete against each other? That sounds like it would have the potential to undermine competitive integrity.
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1. This tournament seems to only be for Makuuchi - I am only seeing Maegashira upwards; or is that just the highlights and there are wrestlers from lower divisions also competing? Most/all of the divisions fight as well, generally you only see highlights of the Makuuchi division but there are streamers who will stream the whole thing and it is aired in total for a solid like 9-10 hours a day. 2. Are all members of the Makuuchi competing each tournament; if not, how is it decided who does and who does not? Anyone who is, or isn't really, healthy does compete. Generally only serious injuries will keep you out of a tournament though wrestlers will do stupid poo poo and compete when they really shouldn't due to tradition/Fighting spirit/respect for the sport/idiocy. 3. Does the rule of members of the same stable not being able to compete against each other ever cause issues with setup? Presumably not everyone fights everyone in a given tournament, given they only do 15 bouts, so there's that, but do you ever get a situation where all or most, let's say for example ōzeki, are in the same stable and don't ever get to compete against each other? That sounds like it would have the potential to undermine competitive integrity. Someone who knows better can fill this in more for me but a lot of the matchmaking rules are generally guidelines that are followed to the spirit if not the letter. There will eventually be people from the same stable competing if two people just go on a tear but that's stuff that usually they leave until later in the tournament in the hopes that it all works itself out. Remember to that people get paid according to rank/wins/special prizes etc which I feel would tamp down on some of the collusion aspects of it, even if they went through the giant match fixing scandal years back. A lot of these guys are also just competitive as hell and want to do their best because who wouldn't want to be seen as a national treasure.
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OneSizeFitsAll posted:Couple of questions: 1. All the divisions fight but the highlights videos usually just show the top level fights though. Makuuchi and Juryo guys fight every day, everyone lower has 7 matches/tourney so only half the division goes on any given day, but the card takes like the entire day. There are degens on Twitch that stream the whole thing if you want to watch a skinny 16 year old fight fight a a fat 30 something no hoper. 2. Everyone goes other than injured dudes like Terunofuji and Asanoyama. Basically unless they have a body part that's fallen off, they will try since there's no rank protection for injuries so it just counts as if you went 0-15/0-7. 3. Not too often. There isn't a dominant enough team at the top that it's an issue right now but in the 90s the stupidly OP Futagoyama stable existed https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=199807&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&h=on where they had 2 Yokozuna (who were also brothers), an Ozeki and a couple guys in lower sanyaku/joi (including Oho's dad). Takanohana (the better Yokozuna) got to clean up because he got to skip like half the sanyaku while his main rival Akebono had to run the gauntlet every time. Taka had 22 yusho to Akebono's 11, but they were dead even head to head. Edit: They are actually strict on the no intra-stable fights. The only exception is a day 15 playoff if they are tied for the yusho where they don't have another option . pseudodragon fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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Day 6: Not sure if I was more thrilled at the tree carry, Sadanoumi managing to put dirt on Atamifuji, or Takayasu's absolutely amazing komatasukui. ...kidding, it's Takayasu. Tons of great sumo today, but that throw - after resisting multiple throw attempts - was absolutely fantastic. And Papa needed a confidence builder. Just plain awesome. But seriously: Ichiyamamoto basho??
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I guess I'm not quite ready to get of the Roga-coaster ride yet. There was definitely a range of emotions throughout that match, including the gyoji verdict and the mono-ii. I thought about picking dollar store Abi (Ichiyamamoto) and now I wish I had. But, I think he'll probably fizzle as he gets tougher opponents next week. Holy poo poo Takayasu v Hoshoryu was good! I would have preferred Hoshoryu win, and I think part of it was due to the gyoji being in the way at the beginning, but that leg trip was inspired!
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Vargatron posted:Brothers and stablemates may not compete against each other, unless they are in a playoff to determine a yusho. This happened between Takanohana and his brother Wakanohana back when both were yokozuna. hakuho / enho a) happening and b) being perfect in every way will forever be awesome.
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OneSizeFitsAll posted:3. Does the rule of members of the same stable not being able to compete against each other ever cause issues with setup? Presumably not everyone fights everyone in a given tournament, given they only do 15 bouts, so there's that, but do you ever get a situation where all or most, let's say for example ōzeki, are in the same stable and don't ever get to compete against each other? That sounds like it would have the potential to undermine competitive integrity. It's actually better for competitive integrity imo. Let's say that it's day 13 and you're 8-4, safe at your rank but out of contention for the cup. What are you gonna do if you get matched up against a stablemate who's 6-6? Are you really gonna give it your all and try seriously to beat them? After all, if they end up going 7-8 there's a good chance they'll blame it on you and you've still got to live with them at the stable. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to throw them a bone and avoid all that? After all, there's a huge difference between going 8-7 and 7-8 but almost no difference between a 8-7 and a 9-6, so it's not like it'll really cost you anything...
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Trade request: Tohakuryu for Ichiyamamoto, Tamawashi, or Tomokaze, in that order of preference. I was gambling on a Tokushoryu kind of thing where everyone would fail to deal with the guy with the one weird trick, but I guess someone who does nothing but pull is easy to figure out.
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Khizan posted:After all, there's a huge difference between going 8-7 and 7-8 but almost no difference between a 8-7 and a 9-6, so it's not like it'll really cost you anything... You miss out on a couple envelopes, but oh well, guess you'll just need a buddy to pick up the bill for you next night out. Marching Powder posted:hakuho / enho a) happening and b) being perfect in every way will forever be awesome. https://youtu.be/z_Snp5jaRK4?si=ZCA-WJeyVRiUAouy It's from an exhibition tournament so they aren't really taking it seriously, but everyone is having a great time.
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my loving manners. cheers for the wholesome sumo assist.
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Hokuseiho vs Midorifuji: Well, that's a first for me in 2-3 years of watching sumo. Water break called at the 4 minute mark.
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Speaking of water, when did it become ok to start drinking the water again during the pre-match prep? It used to be just going through the motions without actually drinking because of the infection risk. E: Yusho race still pretty wide open anakha fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Nov 18, 2023 |
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ullerrm posted:Hokuseiho vs Midorifuji: Well, that's a first for me in 2-3 years of watching sumo. Water break called at the 4 minute mark. [kent brockman watching soccer voice] holds it. holds it. hollllllds it. AND CHAOS HAS BROKEN OUT AS THE TWO COMBATANTS BREAK TO DRINK WATER
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I missed a day, but I stayed up late and got to see Day 7 right as Kinta posted it, and was totally stoked to see my first water break. God bless Midorifuji for sticking it out so long. Also, I was hoping Takakeisho would rejoin the leader group today, but alas. I'm concerned about his rope run at this point.Taffy Torpedo posted:Can I please trade Tohakuryu for Ichiyamamoto? Single Tight Female posted:Trade request please! I want to get off Mister Abi's wild ride. You both get your picks (Ichiyamamoto and Wakamotoharu) for Day 6. Banana Canada posted:Tracker is now updated to Day 6 Thank you for your service comrade. Robviously posted:Looking to trade Hokuseiho for Shonannoumi or Atamifuji. Ice Phisherman posted:I'd like to switch Gonoyama for Nishkigi please. Tiny Bug Child posted:Trade request: Tohakuryu for Ichiyamamoto, Tamawashi, or Tomokaze, in that order of preference. You all get your trades for Day 7 (Shonannoumi, Nishikigi, and Ichiyamamoto). OneSizeFitsAll posted:I've just decided to give watching sumo a try and having a lot of fun so far! My decision has coincided with the start of the November tournament, so I've been watching the NHK highlights the last 4 nights and am really enjoying them. Welcome to sumo and to the thread! As you can see, we're all delighted to answer any sort of questions, we just love the Large Men and want to share. I'm gonna spoiler the Day 7 results cause I'm posting them so early. Day 7 standings Makuuchi code:Juryo code:Kenning fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Nov 18, 2023 |
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Tracker is now updated to Day 7 All confirmed trades are now up-to-date. Noticed I made a few errors in logging the trades on my tracker. These should now be fixed for Day 7 totals but I'll need to go back later and fix a few of the historical day-by-day scores. Kenning - I have Everyones Favorite Poster at 16 which is the only discrepancy between your list and mine.
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Banana Canada posted:Kenning - I have Everyones Favorite Poster at 16 which is the only discrepancy between your list and mine. Good catch, trading issue, I just fixed it.
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ullerrm posted:Hokuseiho vs Midorifuji: Well, that's a first for me in 2-3 years of watching sumo. Water break called at the 4 minute mark. Yeah this was super cool to me. Maybe it's silly to be excited by what is essentially nothing happening at all, but I enjoyed getting to see it. Midorifuji almost pulled off a win too. I'm impressed by how much a smaller rikishi can get done against a larger opponent.
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Medenmath posted:I'm impressed by how much a smaller rikishi can get done against a larger opponent. it must be extremely frustrating for the bigger guys, because ~90% of their practice has been done with beefy lads. then all of a sudden their professional reputation is on the line against a dude 40 kgs lighter but moving laterally way faster every now and again just to make sure you are never settling into a rhythm. it's good poo poo is what i'm saying.
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I have broken down, and come to request a trade - possibly. I am looking to trade Wakamotoharu for Kotonowaka. Only if that trade is not possible due to how the draft has fallen, would I instead ask to trade Kinbozan for Shonannoumi. If neither is available! Then I'll stay with my team as it is.
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