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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Blistex posted:

Agreed. Also, the production model was going to look very different





nice rails to fully ruin any stealth the plane has

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Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here

To be fair, this is the face I would make if I were flying that fast.

weg
Jun 6, 2006

Reassisted Retrogression

ded posted:

nice rails to fully ruin any stealth the plane has

Not that it's ever likely to be used against an adversary with radar anyway lol

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


I sympathize with the F35 as I also fall apart when rained upon

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

HonorableTB posted:

I was once given a disciplinary writeup because my tie was loosened while I was hunched over trying to diagram a business process using software shat out of satan's fetid rear end in a top hat

Don't get me wrong, my job in child social services where I was paved poverty wages, hideously traumatized, covered in foul bodily fluids of other people at least weekly (child and adult alike) and was just straight up assaulted by a beserking lunatic wearing only their own feces, but I still considered it a better job than suit and tie psychopath 'respectable businesses'. (And my current state of pretty much being a hobo is also awful but better than either of those)

At least the person wearing only their own poo poo is being open and honest about their feelings, these absolute Bateman style ghouls playing prison guard on others are the absolute worst.

Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Nov 18, 2023

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Datalink on the F-35 is loving scary to be facing

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Blistex posted:

Agreed. Also, the production model was going to look very different




Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

The 2014 F-35 thread did bring about the phrase "In the distance, a beaver roars" which I still think about at least once a week.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3627558&pagenumber=140&perpage=40#post434458288

"Major Laurier had picked the wrong day to change meth dealers.

The sharp pounding in his head had started just as the scramble alert came on. A Russian Tupolev Tu-95 bomber had blatantly violated Canada's northern sovereignity and was headed for the strategic city of Yellowknife. It was up to his squadron, No. 420 Harper's Harriers to show those Slav bastards what-for with their state-of-the-art C-35 war machines... and peacefully escort them out of Canada's airspace.

Now, he was alone. Captain Fraiser's C-35 had flown through a cloud and the moisture had torn its skin from its fuselage. The rookie, Lieutenant Dorian, had attempted a gentle banked turn and the strain on his engine was too great. His plane exploded in a hail of fire, cheap steel and packing peanuts. He didn't even have time to scream. loving hotshot, thought the Major.

The Tupolev was zooming southeast at a blistering Mach 0.3 but he was slowly closing in on his prey. He had already dropped his external fuel tanks, all four of his bullets and his missile to stay airborne, and the airframe was shuddering like his Chevy Cavalier on the Trans-Canada Highway. The radar app had crashed an hour ago and OnStar was useless. No, I don't want to find a loving gas station, I'm trying to intercept a warplane! Nonetheless, he had followed the contrails left by the bomber in the northern sky. He knew he was close. And then there! On the edge of his horizon, a vast twenty miles away, were the Russians. He clenched his jaw and punched up the afterburners. The plane kicked and lurched like a mechanical bull with half the gears broken. He set course to ram his plane into the hulking turboprop. I knew I wasn't coming back from this mission, he thought. I'm a C-35 pilot. We don't come back. But at least I'll take these assholes with me. His squadron's motto, gently caress EVERYONE AND PISS ON THEIR ASHES, rang in his ears as his HUD flashed a 404 error.

Meanwhile, on the Russian plane...

The Major was five miles from the bomber when he heard a new and unfamiliar bang. He tried in vain to look behind him, but from the corner of his eye, he could see a great crack forming on his left wing. He knew at once what it meant. The epoxy that kept the plane together was never meant for such extreme temperatures. His plane was literally coming apart at the seams. How he wished he was in an Avro Arrow now. With a sickening CRRRACK the wing tore itself free from the plane and the C-35 went into a death spin. The Tupolev continued on, oblivious.

Amidst the alarms, klaxons and spontaneous fire, Frasier bit his lip and thought of Maverick. Then suddenly he remembered his training. One of the Powerpoint slides had mentioned that the ejection seat was NOT made by Lockheed, but by a British company! Hope sprung in his breast; perhaps he might survive this ordeal, and achieve his dream of becoming a cyberathelete! In desperation he lunged at the ejector handle. The seat roared upward into the void and while the canopy didn't deploy, it didn't matter; the cheap glass was shattered easily by his hundred thousand dollar helmet.

The Major breathed a sigh of relief as the chute deployed and slowed his descent. He took one last glance at his plane, which plummeted like a meteor into the ground and exploded. It was a bittersweet sight. At the very least, he thought, he had saved half a billion dollars from the clutches of the poor, the needy, the nonwhite and Quebec. The thought made him smile.

The ejector seat landed with a soft thud on a river bank, narrowly missing some pine trees. He looked around at the bright sky, the green grass and river teeming with fish. This unfamiliar hellscape sent chills of fear down his spine. If I liked the outdoors, he thought, I would've joined in the army.

Thus began Major Laurier's desperate bid for survival in the harsh subarctic summer, where temperatures could drop to nearly below freezing. In the distance, a beaver roared."

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Grammarchist posted:

The 2014 F-35 thread did bring about the phrase "In the distance, a beaver roars" which I still think about at least once a week.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3627558&pagenumber=140&perpage=40#post434458288

"Major Laurier had picked the wrong day to change meth dealers.

The sharp pounding in his head had started just as the scramble alert came on. A Russian Tupolev Tu-95 bomber had blatantly violated Canada's northern sovereignity and was headed for the strategic city of Yellowknife. It was up to his squadron, No. 420 Harper's Harriers to show those Slav bastards what-for with their state-of-the-art C-35 war machines... and peacefully escort them out of Canada's airspace.

Now, he was alone. Captain Fraiser's C-35 had flown through a cloud and the moisture had torn its skin from its fuselage. The rookie, Lieutenant Dorian, had attempted a gentle banked turn and the strain on his engine was too great. His plane exploded in a hail of fire, cheap steel and packing peanuts. He didn't even have time to scream. loving hotshot, thought the Major.

The Tupolev was zooming southeast at a blistering Mach 0.3 but he was slowly closing in on his prey. He had already dropped his external fuel tanks, all four of his bullets and his missile to stay airborne, and the airframe was shuddering like his Chevy Cavalier on the Trans-Canada Highway. The radar app had crashed an hour ago and OnStar was useless. No, I don't want to find a loving gas station, I'm trying to intercept a warplane! Nonetheless, he had followed the contrails left by the bomber in the northern sky. He knew he was close. And then there! On the edge of his horizon, a vast twenty miles away, were the Russians. He clenched his jaw and punched up the afterburners. The plane kicked and lurched like a mechanical bull with half the gears broken. He set course to ram his plane into the hulking turboprop. I knew I wasn't coming back from this mission, he thought. I'm a C-35 pilot. We don't come back. But at least I'll take these assholes with me. His squadron's motto, gently caress EVERYONE AND PISS ON THEIR ASHES, rang in his ears as his HUD flashed a 404 error.

Meanwhile, on the Russian plane...

The Major was five miles from the bomber when he heard a new and unfamiliar bang. He tried in vain to look behind him, but from the corner of his eye, he could see a great crack forming on his left wing. He knew at once what it meant. The epoxy that kept the plane together was never meant for such extreme temperatures. His plane was literally coming apart at the seams. How he wished he was in an Avro Arrow now. With a sickening CRRRACK the wing tore itself free from the plane and the C-35 went into a death spin. The Tupolev continued on, oblivious.

Amidst the alarms, klaxons and spontaneous fire, Frasier bit his lip and thought of Maverick. Then suddenly he remembered his training. One of the Powerpoint slides had mentioned that the ejection seat was NOT made by Lockheed, but by a British company! Hope sprung in his breast; perhaps he might survive this ordeal, and achieve his dream of becoming a cyberathelete! In desperation he lunged at the ejector handle. The seat roared upward into the void and while the canopy didn't deploy, it didn't matter; the cheap glass was shattered easily by his hundred thousand dollar helmet.

The Major breathed a sigh of relief as the chute deployed and slowed his descent. He took one last glance at his plane, which plummeted like a meteor into the ground and exploded. It was a bittersweet sight. At the very least, he thought, he had saved half a billion dollars from the clutches of the poor, the needy, the nonwhite and Quebec. The thought made him smile.

The ejector seat landed with a soft thud on a river bank, narrowly missing some pine trees. He looked around at the bright sky, the green grass and river teeming with fish. This unfamiliar hellscape sent chills of fear down his spine. If I liked the outdoors, he thought, I would've joined in the army.

Thus began Major Laurier's desperate bid for survival in the harsh subarctic summer, where temperatures could drop to nearly below freezing. In the distance, a beaver roared."

:911:

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
"gently caress EVERYONE AND PISS ON THEIR ASHES" is a Stirling motto.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
gently caress EVERYONE AND PISS ON THEIR ASHES sounds like something i'd see in a prigozhin or milblog rant at this point

e: or the iron sheik if hulk hogan is nearby

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

 
Absurd Pox Term
Rad Buxom Strep
     
Retard Ox Bumps
Borax Dumpster
     
Dares Box Trump
There's a line about PISSING ON ASHES in this really great Manowar song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhiXRwLt5ro

numptyboy
Sep 6, 2004
somewhat pleasant

Blistex posted:

Agreed. Also, the production model was going to look very different




Seme really selective angles there.
Almost as if the 'artist' was aware of its hideous appearance from every other angle.
Stupid guppy faced gently caress plane, bet it catches a lot of flies.

ought ten
Feb 6, 2004

numptyboy posted:

Seme really selective angles there.
Almost as if the 'artist' was aware of its hideous appearance from every other angle.
Stupid guppy faced gently caress plane, bet it catches a lot of flies.

That second picture gives it some “modern day A-7” cool.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



So Russia are trying to weaponize asylum seekers, which is of course extremely awesome and cool. To clarify: absolutely nothing against people trying to seek safety and escape war and poverty, but a lot against the pieces of poo poo profiteering off their situation, and Russia's lovely government for using them as tools.

Original Article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20060539
Journalists: Tomi Pyy and Linda Tammela

Yle posted:


We called the human smugglers - "We have a deal with Russian police", they say
Yle looked into the human smuggling business currently going on at the Russian border. A smuggler told Yle he organizes people's entry into Finland together with Russian officials.

Human smugglers say they have contracts with Russian border officials. Yle contacted two smugglers, who told of tight co-operation, as asylum seekers are brought over the Russian border into Finland.

The border Russia shares with Finland is controlled by a border patrol under the control of national security organization FSB. The smugglers talked of the officials working the border as "the police".

- Yes, we have a contract with the police, says one smuggler to Yle.

Both smugglers interviewed by Yle gave matching descriptions of the ongoing process.

- We take him [the asylum seeker] from St. Petersburg to the border. The police handle their visa, exit papers and stamp their passport, the interviewee told by phone.

For this article Yle utilized exceptional methods of obtaining information. The journalist pretended to be a person who wanted to help their Russian brother come to FInland quickly. The conversations with the smugglers were done in Arabic.

Yle also talked with asylum seekers currently in Russia, who said they had paid smugglers for entry into Finland. Their stories also line up with the smugglers' own versions.



A screen capture from a video published on TikTok, where a man claiming to be a smuggler tells of young men, who he arranges to travel from St. Petersburg to Finland. The people's faces have been covered to protect their privacy.

The smugglers have deals with the police
According to the smugglers, the Russian border officials co-operate with them in exchange for payment. The process is an example of organized corruption.

Yle has not been able to verify the smugglers' information from independent sources. Some of the talk could be marketing speak. The smugglers want to find new asylum seekers for transport, and also compete with other smugglers.

One of the interviewees talked of the "deals with the police". Only some of the smugglers have ongoing deals. If they don't have one, they have to bribe government officials.

- The bribes range from 1000 to 2000 dollars. But if the smuggler doesn't know their stuff, it could lead to a situation where they can be beaten up or otherwise mistreated.

"We got into Finland on Tuesday"
At least a couple of hundred asylum seekers have arrived at Finland's eastern border over these past few days. Yle has found several videos on social media where asylum seekers are saying they are leaving for Finland.

On a video published on the Telegram app [video in the original article] young men say they have just arrived in FInland. At the end of the video the man speaking to the camera thanks the smugglers who got them over the border.

- We made it safely into Finland on Tuesday. This is your group, thanks a lot!

In reality the speaker probably only thinks he is in Finland, after passing one set of border controls. Judging by the surroundings he is still in Russia's half of the border. The red pole seen at the end of the video is likely a foresting sign used in Russia.

Finland is prepared for Russia's "nasty tricks"
Yle contacted the smugglers through a phone number found on TikTok. The smugglers market their services actively on other social media platforms as well. For instance on Facebook an Arabic text post advertises that smugglers can get people into Finland for as little as 2000 dollars. These messages also freely hand out the smuggler's phone number.

In recent years Finland has prepared itself for a situation where Russia tries to exert hybrid influence by directing large masses of asylum seekers to Finland. Russia executed such an operation in 2015 during the height of the refugee crisis.

President Sauli Niinistö said yesterday (ed: on Wednesday) that Finland has prepared for such "nasty tricks" from Russia. Prime Minister Petteri Orpo (national coalition) and Ministry of the Interior Mari Rantanen (True Finns) will be holding a briefing on limitations to be implemented at the border on Thursday.

According to Yle's information the government is planning on implementing limitations made possible by the Border Control Law on a quick time schedule. The reason for this is that Russia has changed its policy and started letting third world citizens without visas to Finland's border. Just Wednesday night alone over 80 asylum seekers arrived at the border.

The smuggler talking with Yle said that Russian government officials have been flexible in their co-operation.

- The border control post we arrived at was closed, so they opened up a new one for us.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars
regarding the quality of those DRPK-supplied shells



fyi, linked podcast

get mobilized and win a chance to be buried next to a dump (trash bins are a satanic invention of the effeminate West)



Shaman Tank Spec posted:

So Russia are trying to weaponize asylum seekers, which is of course extremely awesome and cool. To clarify: absolutely nothing against people trying to seek safety and escape war and poverty, but a lot against the pieces of poo poo profiteering off their situation, and Russia's lovely government for using them as tools.

looks like something Lukashenka was doing on a Polish border

Dwesa fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Nov 18, 2023

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

And Syrian regime tactics may as well have been designed to create as many displaced people as possible

Groda
Mar 17, 2005

Hair Elf

Strategic Tea posted:

The fact that any of the big four accountants are still respectable is a disgrace, because they're all neck deep in Putinist collaboration until they were forced to halt business by the latest invasion.

Names to remember:
PWC
EY
Deloitte
KPMG

All are UK headquartered though they will pretend "oh that's just the Russia office it operates autonomously ;) "

As accountancy partners are just replaceable salesmen anyway, I don't see why we shouldn't drag every single one of them through the courts and demand they prove their innocence

People who like Fanta and management consultancy should never see how they're made.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1725789172718358894#m

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Looks like Ukraine has been busy in the south and east recently an retaken stuff.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Things are extreme shaky on the Russia side. Radios aren't being answered. Reinforcements which were there yesterday at eno longer coming. They are having to reshuffle a bunch of people to start building defenses between Melitopol and the Dniper.

Usually you have a nice reserve of engineers and labourers to do this so the infantry can continue doing infantry things. But all the engineers and labourers are infantrymen so

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
it's called multi-tasking ya fuckin wectoid

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

full spectrum mobnik

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
UA pushing on Kopani and has taken ground

Philonius
Jun 12, 2005

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Things are extreme shaky on the Russia side. Radios aren't being answered. Reinforcements which were there yesterday at eno longer coming. They are having to reshuffle a bunch of people to start building defenses between Melitopol and the Dniper.

Usually you have a nice reserve of engineers and labourers to do this so the infantry can continue doing infantry things. But all the engineers and labourers are infantrymen so

This type of cross-training is pretty standard. Every US marine is a rifleman. Every mobik is a slave labourer.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Philonius posted:

This type of cross-training is pretty standard. Every US marine is a rifleman. Every mobik is a slave labourer.

I know. But what I'm saying is you're effectively removing combat power from the front lines that are being pushed to build these defensive networks. I'm not saying that oh the infantryman's not going to be the laborer and vice versa but that you're taking active in fighting combat troops off of the front to go to a completely other side of the occupation zone to go and build bunkers. That's just not an effective thing. You usually have excess men to go and do that

Dilettante.
Feb 18, 2011
Hope Ukraine can keep it going, They lost another M109 to a lancet today. Europe and the US should be if at least not refurbishing and donating, producing. Italy donated 40 older M109's recently, might have been one if them getting hit.

Those Lancets are really are a pain, there isn't really any effective counter to it at the moment. The Ukrainians are supposedly making their own version, and apparently the fabled Switchblade 600 made it's appearance finally today by cooking a TOR . But they need something analogous to it, relatively cheap and simple to make. I know the Russians can make equipment cheaper due to their PPP or whatever, but I feel the West needs similar equipment that is simpler and cheaper to produce.

I wonder how many M109's the USA has in deep storage rusting away while the war they were built for is waging. All this talk about withholding or stopping aid, and no change in increased shell production targets both sides of the Atlantic is infuriating. (While the US is donating shells earmarked for Ukraine to Israel!)

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
One area Ukraine is not struggling with is cheap drones. They are probably Ukraines MVP of this war.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Dilettante. posted:

I wonder how many M109's the USA has in deep storage rusting away while the war they were built for is waging. All this talk about withholding or stopping aid, and no change in increased shell production targets both sides of the Atlantic is infuriating. (While the US is donating shells earmarked for Ukraine to Israel!)

M109A6 Paladin - 514 in service + ca. 850 in storage in 2022[

M109A7 - 48 with a further 180 contracted options

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

HonorableTB posted:

I was once given a disciplinary writeup because my tie was loosened while I was hunched over trying to diagram a business process using software shat out of satan's fetid rear end in a top hat

Good.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1726004260716847181

lol someone probably with a grenade drone

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
im glad of it

Sedgr
Sep 16, 2007

Neat!

These song generators are getting pretty wild. Generated music and lyrics.

Putin is a real piece of poo poo.
https://i.imgur.com/0gcWno7.mp4

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
New Perun video on nuclear modernization:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBZceqiKHrI

One point he makes regarding Russian nukes, and why willo should still be afraid of them, is that like the regular Russian forces, they're probably mostly garbage but still effective enough to cause some serious destruction through sheer numbers and brute force.

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

Der Kyhe posted:

Well, whatever the actual reason Marines had besides "getting their own model", they were the ones who wanted the B-variant with VTOL/VSTOL-capabilities, and don't have ski-jumps on their carriers which would enable them to operate more conventional designs.

jsyk, ski ramp takeoffs also drastically limit the takeoff weight, meaning you need to either sacrifice payload or fuel. Theres a reason americas carriers have catapaults and it isnt just for shits and giggles

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

grumplestiltzkin posted:

jsyk, ski ramp takeoffs also drastically limit the takeoff weight, meaning you need to either sacrifice payload or fuel. Theres a reason americas carriers have catapaults and it isnt just for shits and giggles


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv2C6EZW3Oc

Perun recently made a video on aircraft carriers that goes into this and a lot of other things.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vogKOcpHM38

lmao, you don't say the quiet part out loud.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

went in a more traditional direction

https://i.imgur.com/o9XUT5z.mp4

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Another day and another Russian assault in Avdiivka got popped. Bonus tank turrent take off too.

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Doccers
Aug 15, 2000


Patron Saint of Chickencheese

Tai posted:

Another day and another Russian assault in Avdiivka got popped. Bonus tank turrent take off too.

Serious question: Why do some people call what we yanks would call a "Turret", "Turrents"?

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