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quote:I’m curious who cares enough about accuracy in Scott Pilgrim canon but not enough to check in on the readily available information the creator was providing
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I AM GRANDO posted:What has ever made nerds happy? Rogue One? No, people hated Rouge One when it came out. Lot of people still do. Panderous mush schlock like Spider-Man: No Way Home and Star Trek: Picard Season 3 are sort of the only things I've seen lately that have been marked Safe For Nerd Brains because they don't challenge nerds in any way and are focused on fixing decades old cinema sins that have been owies on nerd brains since they were children at the expense of telling actual stories. That's what nerds want.
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Nov 18, 2023 04:51
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This is the first time I've heard of anyone liking Star Trek: Picard.
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Nov 18, 2023 04:52
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Pachylad posted:This is the first time I've heard of anyone liking Star Trek: Picard. Season 3 and Season 3 only. A season of television purpose-built to make these two grumpy old men happy:   Bonus points: the one on the left is a white supremacist 
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Nov 18, 2023 04:56
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I thought goons like the rlm guys
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Nov 18, 2023 05:06
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Impermanent posted:I thought goons like the rlm guys Generally, yes, but they have scientifically proven Bad Star Trek Takes, and some goony gently caress made an entire season of TV trying to correct every bullet point criticism in the Plinkett reviews of the TNG movies that even Mike went "on second thought, these are awful" at and deleted them.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:15
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Also Jay has better taste.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:17
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vuk83 posted:Could it be they are thinking of the children? I think ep1 has ffn and everything multiple times. I saw my sister today and she wanted to show me something she liked on Netflix. I saw this loving show in her recommendations. This is not something she would in anyway be interested in and has a 3 and 5 year old. The algorithm is truly unknowable. I also watched 4 episodes of Scott Pilgrim and this was not at all what I was expecting. Its still really good and the music choices in Ep. 4 are incredible.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:21
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nine-gear crow posted:Yes, Vegan=Saiyan is still consistent across all incarnations of Scott Pilgrim. loving hell I just got that.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:43
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Just finished Scott Pilgrim Takes Off and really loved it. The animation was top notch and the actors really brought some new stuff to it. The evil exes especially were hamming it up as much as possible. Chris Evans and Brandon Routh had me laughing quite a lot. And yeah, it’s a much more mature story than the original, clearly informed by a couple decades more life experience. (These spoilers are vague but they could still really spoil some of the later stuff.) The only real villain is one’s own immaturity and selfishness. The “evil” exes get more fleshed out and are no longer just silly obstacles to overcome. Ramona becomes the main character of the show and it’s all the better for it. We actually get why she was so immediately drawn to Scott, and why she also needs to confront her insecurities. Really did not expect “Scott Pilgrim Takes Off” to be such a literal title. One thing I’m happy about is that they’re setting up for future seasons. I would’ve been perfectly happy if it had been a straightforward retelling of the comics, but instead we’re promised a whole interesting world with these characters that we’ll get to keep seeing.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:45
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Vandar posted:Also hi the original Bubblegum Crisis is like my favorite anime ever so the music video in episode seven felt like it was pandering to me, directly, and having the song as the end credits theme there made it even better. I popped SO loving HARD for this moment after snickering through the virtual reality segment that my partner finally just sighed and said “I have no idea what any of this is referencing.” (We both ended up loving the poo poo out of Takes Off though, because as much of a very specific point in time nerd O’Malley is the references have never been the actual jokes or story in Scott Pilgrim)
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Nov 18, 2023 05:51
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Pachylad posted:I have no skin in the game but my understanding is that people said the advertising/trailers (apparently they all say 'the interviews don't count' lmao) promised 'a more faithful adaptation of the comics' whatever that means. I went into this fully expecting a fairly by the numbers remake, which I was totally fine with since the movie never really got the chance to hit a lot of the emotional beats from volume 4 on. I'm delighted with what we got, especially since I just finished a re read not that long ago, but I can see why people are peeved. I don't read interviews with creators so if I'm just going by what shows up on my YouTube feed for trailers, I'm going to (and did) think that it is a direct adaptation with some streaming and set piece changes. I went back and looked and pretty much all the trailer footage is either episode 1 played straight, fast action cuts without context, or callback shots. In particular you have things like knives in her ninja costume (which is honestly a weird fanservice decision for the finale), Ramona and Scott fighting side by side with Ramona in her end of volume six outfit etc. They knew what they were doing, and I'm all for the twist, but I can see someone who is really invested in the original being sad that it didn't get a full proper adaptation and feeling mislead by the advertising.
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Nov 18, 2023 06:06
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RandomReader posted:Maybe they should stop hiding broccoli in my brownies then :P Market what you're making instead of epically subverting my expectations, it's not a crazy ask. But the title tells you what's gonna happen: he took off
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Nov 18, 2023 07:40
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Loved how many subtle, out-of-nowhere references are in Scott Pilgrim. Quoting Southland Tales and MacGruber in the same episode is some genius brained poo poo. As for the whole "buhhhhh why didn't we get a shot-for-shot recreation??" - the original comic still exists, you can still read that. I don't see why More New Stuff is a bad thing
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Nov 18, 2023 08:31
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I would definitely not recommend the Netflix series to anyone who had not read the comics or seen the film. It is definitely a sequel too the original story and not a side-story or anything
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Nov 18, 2023 08:37
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Yeah, I think that although I'm supremely happy with the new version, marketing it the way they did might have been a mistake in the long run
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Nov 18, 2023 08:52
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Just finished. Really really satisfying show, loved the story they decided to tell and it was very funny and pretty and the cast all crushed it!
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Nov 18, 2023 11:37
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Escobarbarian posted:Just finished. Really really satisfying show, loved the story they decided to tell and it was very funny and pretty and the cast all crushed it! Also just finished it. Hope it gets a second season. I really want to see Gideon and Julie being the king and queen of poo poo mountain. "Honk honk, fuckers!"
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Nov 18, 2023 11:42
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Finished it. It was good though not without its problem. On the whole I really enjoyed it, the idea is fantastic, the animation is good, the VA is mostly good (Chris Evans is great), music is great. The two main problems are shared with the film (maybe with the comic? I haven't read it in over a decade) imo. The "second act" (episodes 4-6) are kinda slow and don't serve that much of a purpose. The second issue with is related to the first I didn't feel like dealing with each ex had a very big emotional core - in general we're shown a teensy bit of what happened and what Ramona did but it's mostly left for us to extrapolate. So Ramona tends to leave people quickly without giving them a real chance cuz she's afraid of.. something. Commitment, being vulnerable, whatever. I feel like it didn't get enough of a focus. Like, what did we learn and how? How and why did Ramona change? What did Scott learn from his future self? Sure we can extrapolate it from what was shown but I feel like it should've been expanded on or be more explicit, because it ends up being a bit of a Rorschach test for whatever relationship issues you want to see depicted. Using that ending song definitely put a smile on my face.
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Nov 18, 2023 12:47
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Honestly, the most amazing thing about SPTO is Tony Oliver getting extremely good, extremely anime dub performances out of all these actors. This cast really is something special (then again they were special in the movie too).
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Nov 18, 2023 14:55
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kefkafloyd posted:Honestly, the most amazing thing about SPTO is Tony Oliver getting extremely good, extremely anime dub performances out of all these actors. This cast really is something special (then again they were special in the movie too). Yeah, agreed. I certainly didnt expect to ever be impressed by Michael Cera. Spoilers for finale i was also surprised to hear some of the deliveries from Will Forte as Old Scott and Even Older Scott
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Nov 18, 2023 15:11
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oh huh, didn't know Bryan Lee O'Malley was divorced after skimming through Scott Pilgrim Discourse (I'm a masochist w/e) :/ prolly explains a lot about the twist led to this hilarious exchange tho:
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Nov 18, 2023 15:40
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Impermanent posted:I thought goons like the rlm guys god no
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Nov 18, 2023 16:42
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I was really genuinely pleasantly surprised by SPTO. I was going to skip it because I just wasn't interested in seeing the story again but taking Scott off the board does loving wonders. It genuinely allows every character involved to be more of a character and allows Ramona to be a person. They're pretty good about reframing the story so it doesn't linger on stuff the original version covered and it comes down pretty firmly on the side of Ramona and Scott both being pretty poo poo people who need to both get better and that anything they have won't work if they don't actually help each other with their flaws. It helps that the Evil Exes are loving hilarious when they are allowed to breathe. I'd gladly watch a show that was basically about them. The original Scott Pilgrim has aged a lot and SPTO does wonders because it actually addresses that and acknowledges it instead of just trying to cling to the same story.
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Nov 18, 2023 17:18
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Both the movie and the show really do skip out on all the Volume 4/Volume 5 Scott backstory and character growth (minimal that it is, being Scott and all). And I wonder if the producers just hate Lisa and that whole arc. Specifically how she's used to frame how much of an unreliable narrator Scott is about his memories of his past and own lovely behaviors.
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Nov 18, 2023 17:26
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ImpAtom posted:
"Forgiveness is what you want? Well, I have something entirely different in mind... FRIENDSHIP!"
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Nov 18, 2023 17:32
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FireWorksWell posted:"Forgiveness is what you want? Well, I have something entirely different in mind... "I was only gone for 90 minutes!" I really love anytime we get the Evil Exes interacting with each other.
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Nov 18, 2023 17:58
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Pachylad posted:oh huh, didn't know Bryan Lee O'Malley was divorced after skimming through Scott Pilgrim Discourse (I'm a masochist w/e) :/ prolly explains a lot about the twist led to this hilarious exchange tho: Friend (by which I mean the Reddit poster), Scott was always a completely useless idiot.
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Nov 18, 2023 17:59
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Rhonne posted:"I was only gone for 90 minutes!" Yeah, one of the things I'd be most looking forward to if this gets a second season.
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Nov 18, 2023 18:04
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Dawgstar posted:Friend (by which I mean the Reddit poster), Scott was always a completely useless idiot. Yea, Scott being a dumbass? Perish the thought!
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Nov 18, 2023 18:05
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I AM GRANDO posted:What has ever made nerds happy? Rogue One? Nerds want the status quo every single loving time. Batman never gets married, Spiderman never settles down, etc etc. I saw so many complaints of its not one to one so I loving hate it, blah blah. And well they wanna stay in their small circle and not have anyone else in it either. I already saw the complaints for the show and it's like.. did you read.. the comic at all. edit: Yeah Scott always has been the useless idiot. Hell he's the worst goddamn person in the world. loving dating a minor/cheats on her with another troubled/damaged girl and does not learn his lesson until he literally loving bites it. I feel some people saw the movie more than read the comic. Movie downplayed his terribliness a bit.
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Nov 18, 2023 18:16
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Sockser posted:I would definitely not recommend the Netflix series to anyone who had not read the comics or seen the film. It is definitely a sequel too the original story and not a side-story or anything Oh so it’s not another adaptation of the comic then? Speaking of, apparently they made another animated Scott Pilgrim short back in 2010, is that any good out of curiosity?
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Nov 18, 2023 18:34
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Shindragon posted:Nerds want the status quo every single loving time. Batman never gets married, Spiderman never settles down, etc etc. We absolutely want Batman to get married. There was almost a fandom riot when Tom King pulled a loving bait and switch on us a few years back.
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Nov 18, 2023 18:39
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Larryb posted:Oh so it’s not another adaptation of the comic then? Yeah, it's baseline Scott Pilgrim, so pretty good but ultimately "whatever". It was done as a tie in to the movie and a proof of concept for an animated show starring Cera, Whitman, Schwartzman and Pill and adapting Scott, Kim and Lisa's high school flashback from Vol. 4--the part that's been basically excised from every SP adaptation otherwise.
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Nov 18, 2023 18:42
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Larryb posted:Oh so it’s not another adaptation of the comic then? Nope. It's doing its own rather interesting thing though I think it's kind of a loose sequel to the comic/movie in some ways.
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Nov 18, 2023 18:42
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Yeah, the best way I can sum up Takes Off is that it's Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Rebuild of Evangelion. So if you at all familiar with that series of films and what they do for the original story and characters of Evangelion, Takes Off follows a similar path.
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Nov 18, 2023 18:45
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Neat, that just gives me more incentive to watch then. Were they able to get all the actors back for this out of curiosity?
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Nov 18, 2023 18:47
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Larryb posted:Neat, that just gives me more incentive to watch then. Were they able to get all the actors back for this out of curiosity? Every single one. and then some. Including musical guests.
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Nov 18, 2023 18:49
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No Beck though 
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Chris Evans does such a loving good job.
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