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mawarannahr posted:nice strawman Then you are siding with the guy who moved the embassy to Jerusalem and supports the a no holds barred genocide with zero calls for restraint and cheers for the settler terrorists. Sitting on the sidelines in 2024 will not improve the lot of the Palestinians but it will have severe negative consequences for other oppressed groups world wide.
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ex post facho posted:Then you are siding with the guy who moved the embassy to Jerusalem and supports the a no holds barred genocide with zero calls for restraint and cheers for the settler terrorists. What about Clinton, champ? Haaretz - From Bill Clinton to Trump: The Never-ending Story of the Jerusalem Embassy Move
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drat the palestinians must be ecstatic that the genocide in 2025 will be no-holds barred rather what it is now a no-holds barred genocide
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ex post facho posted:Sitting on the sidelines in 2024 will not improve the lot of the Palestinians but it will have severe negative consequences for other oppressed groups world wide.  gee I wonder what they could mean by "severe negative consequences", perhaps they could put into words what those severe and negative consequences would be. What would we be trying to prevent from happening??
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Or I could vote for a thirtysomething (?) Latina woman, De La Cruz, or not bother at all. Almost like I have choices other than genocidal old fossils....
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Oh boy the chance to vote for Pete Buttigieg That'll fix it
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ex post facho posted:Then you are siding with the guy who moved the embassy to Jerusalem and supports the a no holds barred genocide with zero calls for restraint and cheers for the settler terrorists. thanks to the strong and vibrant nature of our democracy, for most Americans there is basically no chance that your vote for President will actually impact who becomes president. lol
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Never have the chance to vote again? He was already president and that didn't happen what the gently caress are they talking about.
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Project 2025. This time, they're gonna end our "democracy" once and for all, guys! No, really! This is the big one!
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Mostly Lurking posted:Never have the chance to vote again? He was already president and that didn't happen what the gently caress are they talking about. democracy is on the line! most important election of our lifetime!
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Very confused on the fanfiction that Trump won't step down at the end of his second term. The guy wants to die in Mar-a-Lago, the presidency is too much work. He just doesn't want the shame of being a one-term president.
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if trump was going to end voting why didn't he do it in 2020
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RealityWarCriminal posted:if trump was going to end voting why didn't he do it in 2020 What do you think 1/6 was? 
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Mostly Lurking posted:Never have the chance to vote again? He was already president and that didn't happen what the gently caress are they talking about. Point that out and they'll say that he tried and came so close to succeeding and democracy was only saved by the skin of our vote, and if he gets a second term, he'll be able to finish the job before democracy has a chance to fully heal.
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Mostly Lurking posted:Never have the chance to vote again? He was already president and that didn't happen what the gently caress are they talking about. Libs have a flashlight under the chin scary fantasy that electing trump again will usher in some kind of coup that will end elections forever. If you're expecting coherence, you aren't going to find it here.
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the_steve posted:Point that out and they'll say that he tried and came so close to succeeding and democracy was only saved by the skin of our vote, and if he gets a second term, he'll be able to finish the job before democracy has a chance to fully heal. he committed such an evil affront to the nation that every facet of power decided unilaterally to not punish him or prevent him from running again in any way if that's the world libs believe they live in my loving christ
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Project 2025. This time, they're gonna end our "democracy" once and for all, guys! sure is a shame the democrats are incapable of making a plan to transform the government when they gain power, better not reflect on that and instead lets just assume doing so would be autocratic.
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Nothus posted:Libs have a flashlight under the chin scary fantasy that electing trump again will usher in some kind of coup that will end elections forever. who gives a poo poo if it did, its not like being able to vote for one of two halves of the oligarchy changes anything because of the 2000 election we already know libs would take it lying down if someone actually did steal an election drat, they might not be able to libbishly brag to their friends about how important and moral their ballot was
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If we elect Trump again, he might invite some small business owners to mill around the us capitol for a few hours before leaving and all being sent to jail forever Only this time it'll work!!! And he can't do it if he loses the election, because the power of your vote will have defeated him
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Rich people were happier under Trump I think the powers gave Biden a chance... I don't know what for. The illusion of American hegemony? But that experiment's over, nobody cared and it didn't really move the needle - in fact, Biden ended up making GBS threads up the global status quo worse somehow. So there's money to be made and Trump is going to make sure the people who put him back in charge are the ones making it
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Willa Rogers posted:and like clockwork the succers respond If you get them in office you can convince them to change their policies and push them to the left c: No not like that!
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What kind of sicko is cranking their gunker for voting team biden in 2024.
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ProfessorBooty posted:If you get them in office you can convince them to change their policies and push them to the left c: I'd say "you're only allowed to push them left by asking very politely in contexts and channels where nobody of any consequence will ever hear you" but no they hate that too
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Submitted for the approval of The Midnight Society, I call this story "The Tale of the 99% Hitler"
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loquacius posted:I'd say "you're only allowed to push them left by asking very politely in contexts and channels where nobody of any consequence will ever hear you" but no they hate that too Exactly. You're just supposed to be a good little votepig. When they say "VOTE!" you ask "How blue!?"
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FuzzySlippers posted:RFK Jr seems like a Ron Desantis where he works better as a headline than actually being live and interacting with people. I think he'll literally poo poo himself eventually given enough airtime. ironically the fact that the media is refusing to give kennedy airtime because they dont want to weaken biden is probably the only reason kennedys numbers are so high lol
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The bad thread is utterly incapable of understanding that a system which can only generate two bad outcomes is maybe a system that shouldn't be maintained. Liberals would fight you if you suggested they don't dine at the turd sandwich deli
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So you’ll shut up about voting? That sounds like a pretty sweet deal actually
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loquacius posted:I'd say "you're only allowed to push them left by asking very politely in contexts and channels where nobody of any consequence will ever hear you" but no they hate that too there's still the occasional person with a donut emoji in their profile name on twitter
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Bishyaler posted:The bad thread is utterly incapable of understanding that a system which can only generate two bad outcomes is maybe a system that shouldn't be maintained. I would vote for a thousand years of darkness if it meant that I didn't have to hear another votescolding succold butcher some analogy about votes and restaurants in an effort to condescend to us about how trying to get what we actually want is stupid naive baby talk.
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theCalamity posted:They really love to say “but what about the GOP?” when people want to hold Democrats accountable. You bring up how the Democrats failed to codify Roe, they’ll say that it’s really the GOP’s fault even tho the Dems were in power. also they'll deny there was a straight line from dem gov. casey's state-level restrictions that led to the overturning of Roe. quote:They also individualize the Democrats when it comes to the things that are bad or they fail to pass something. So it’s specifically Manchin’s or Sinema’s faults but not the whole party. But they’ll demand that you vote for the Democrats at the same time simply because they’re Democrats. Assessing whether or not a democrat is bad is alright but the party as a whole deserves your vote. that's why they were protesting schiff's & porter's speeches at the convention, bc both oppose a ceasefire. and that's why I said the current schism is so fascinating, bc even tho dems love to point out that The Other Guys Are Worse this isn't true when it comes to the I/P war, for which only one senator (durbin, of all people) has called for a ceasefire--a stunning lack of backbone combined with AIPAC capture when clear majorities of dem voters (and a majority of GOP voters!) want a ceasefire.
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VitalSigns posted:People protesting the Democratic platform should be a good thing: it means they are persuadable voters that you could get on your side by negotiating with them. If they gave up on you and went to try to influence the GOP instead that would a bad sign. it really does no good for their entryism arguments, bc as we've seen there is no moving the party leftish in any way & they'll end up moving further right, as with their Fund the Police in the year of BLM protests.
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ex post facho posted:Some people are just too morally pure to prevent the guy who’s going to make being queer carry the death penalty from being president. all the succers have left is death-porn nightmares that they've ginned up to hysteria levels now they see 2024 slipping away. if they're that worried they'd be working to either make biden do better or to step down, but nah, they're just flinging Nightmare on Queer Street poo to see if it sticks.
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 why are succers so convinced that reelecting trump will mean that he overturns democracy when they're the ones actively trying to destroy it by indicting him on bogus charges the trials of which concurrently run with the election, and by knocking third parties off the ballot?
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/katierogers/status/1726338021052633516?t=MMNRikPlUTrsmuW5dwWABw&s=19 my friend & I saw a flag at half mast during a walk this afternoon & I figured it had to be her or jimmy. I yelled at her during a speech she gave at grant park in the 70s bc she & jimmy didn't support the ERA.  Ros & the ERA
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/19/democrats-guide-coping-biden-terrible-polls-00127975 This pretty much has all the succ hits. Like others have said: nothing in there about Biden doing better or trying to win voters, just screaming "Trump is worse!" until people give in.
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Willa Rogers posted:
Because when libs do it, they're simply trying to save us from ourselves since we're too stupid to vote any better. They absolutely believe we should be free to vote for whoever they choose. Trump obviously wouldn't even allow that.
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