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Tiny Timbs posted:It’s been really amusing seeing all of the goons try to trash talk the AI/ML advances as simultaneously completely worthless and capable of eliminating all their jobs. It's basically the same poo poo as the block chain. On one hand useful poo poo where you'd want an immutable record with change logs that need to be shuffled among institutions such as financial transactions or health records. On the other hand absolutely horrible poo poo like NFTs, Buttcoins, and what ever other stupid grifter poo poo that exists. LLMs and Neural Networks will have useful applications that will be over shadowed by grifters trying to sell it for poo poo it's not really a good solution for.
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Tiny Timbs posted:It’s been really amusing seeing all of the goons try to trash talk the AI/ML advances as simultaneously completely worthless and capable of eliminating all their jobs. The AV aspect of AI is where it's most impressive, imo. The kind of workproduct it produces in terms of coding or legal analysis is more harmful than helpful. I imagine they'll get those applications improved in the future, but generating Audio and Video signals has already reached a pretty dangerous place. There were a couple proof-of-concepts for using AI to crack voice verification security, and I just saw an ad on Twitter for some kind of revenge porn generator program. I know people use AI in their jobs, but I haven't really yet got a good grasp on what exactly they use it for. It seems like the kind of thing you would offload stupid makework bullshit that might exist in a corporate environment but isn't actually key to operating a business. Using AI to do your accounting or provide legal analysis just seems like you're setting yourself up for failure. Same for medical applications or really any kind of work where being right is important. Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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In a surprise to no one. https://bsky.app/profile/mitchellepner.bsky.social/post/3ken3fmhruh2l "For months, I have been posting that "Moms For Liberty" was neither composed of "moms" nor "for liberty". It turns out that I was right. The founder of "Moms for Liberty" is (a) a guy, (b) who is a registered sex offender, and (c) claims that he was framed. talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/imagi..." https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/imagine-that-5
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Defenestrategy posted:It's basically the same poo poo as the block chain. Its bad to conflate Block Chains (100% useless garbage) and Cypto (Entirely a scam) with cryptographic signatures. One is a real, well developed, and useful technology, that has minimal impact on computing speed and cost, and the other is entirely a scam.
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Need block chain tech for crypto to exist. Edit: oh you said block chain was useless. Theres been some decent articles written about using block chain ledgers as a way to solve interopperability issues between medical providers. Which seems legit to me. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Its bad to conflate Block Chains (100% useless garbage) and Cypto (Entirely a scam) with cryptographic signatures. One is a real, well developed, and useful technology, that has minimal impact on computing speed and cost, and the other is entirely a scam. Meh, yes, however Blockchain is also largely not nearly as valuable as was promised, since its really just an append only database - we've had that forever. Blockchain and Crypto largely are tied at the hip for being useless marketing buzzwords.
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Tiny Timbs posted:capable of eliminating all their jobs. No worries, Uncle Sam always needs someone to clean a latrine.
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Defenestrategy posted:Need block chain tech for crypto to exist. Or you could get the medical providers to sit down and agree on an interoperability standard which will require just as much work and political capital.
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FrozenVent posted:Or you could get the medical providers to sit down and agree on an interoperability standard which will require just as much work and political capital. I mean at the end of the day it'll probably take the form of some sort of append only database, combined with cryptographic signatures hosted probably in a central repository of some sort...
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Defenestrategy posted:central repository of some sort... so no need for a blockchain then e: blockchain doesn't solve any of the actual issues with supply chains/medical data/logistics etc, which are invariably problems arising because of data entry (or fraud at the point of data entry). blockchain does make data entry problems highly resistant to ever being corrected, though hypnophant fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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hypnophant posted:so no need for a blockchain then Basically yes. In fact Blockchain is an absolute pain because it largely returns to being a single point of failure rather than truly distributed, and if anything wrong gets put in, it cannot be undone without forking the chain. Blockchain is kinda dumb.
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Grip it and rip it posted:I know people use AI in their jobs, but I haven't really yet got a good grasp on what exactly they use it for. It seems like the kind of thing you would offload stupid makework bullshit that might exist in a corporate environment but isn't actually key to operating a business. Using AI to do your accounting or provide legal analysis just seems like you're setting yourself up for failure. Same for medical applications or really any kind of work where being right is important. That sort of clerical and compliance work isn’t trivial though. There’s nothing revolutionary here, how many secretaries did word processors and e-mail put out of work? This enables more complex processes or analysis which can create value, or just plain reduce the costs of documentation heavy services. There are probably a lot of project managers, medical transcribers and other such people that are going to need to learn a different, higher level skillset in the near future.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:That sort of clerical and compliance work isn’t trivial though. There’s nothing revolutionary here, how many secretaries did word processors and e-mail put out of work? This enables more complex processes or analysis which can create value, or just plain reduce the costs of documentation heavy services. There are probably a lot of project managers, medical transcribers and other such people that are going to need to learn a different, higher level skillset in the near future. The problem is the word processor didn't actually put secretaries out of work. There is still an important role in the office that a dedicated person can perform and improve upon, however as a cost saving measure companies have simply killed that position and just burdened their other staff with those tasks. Secretaries are now reserved as a status symbol in most corporate culture, even though any team of like 20+ people could really use one.
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Grip it and rip it posted:I know people use AI in their jobs, but I haven't really yet got a good grasp on what exactly they use it for. I had a dude I was doing some signal processing work for hand me a new job assignment where he'd asked chatgpt to compare two science papers and tell him what was required to implement the science practically. Long story short, I'm no longer working with that dude.
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Argentina elected this man Dude has talked about seizing the Falklands… and also how he looks up to Margaret Thatcher.
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Grip it and rip it posted:The AV aspect of AI is where it's most impressive, imo. The kind of workproduct it produces in terms of coding or legal analysis is more harmful than helpful. I imagine they'll get those applications improved in the future, but generating Audio and Video signals has already reached a pretty dangerous place. There were a couple proof-of-concepts for using AI to crack voice verification security, and I just saw an ad on Twitter for some kind of revenge porn generator program. So I generally use it for tasks that are annoying and time consuming but not difficulty for me to verify as being done correctly. I use ChatGPT routinely to make little scripts with programming languages or libraries for one-off problems I don’t want to be bothered learning the syntax for, like iteratively grabbing stuff out of a structured file with a bunch of nested file paths. This week I used it to generate a placeholder dataset with a bunch of items with complex relationships to each other (e.g., 20 aircraft flying between 30 countries with 100 flights in a certain order and with associated travel times). It would have taken me hours to do it by hand but with a little coaching I got ChatGPT to spit out a full table in an hour. You can get in trouble with it but it kinda seems like mainly an issue for really stupid people at the moment, and the bad part we’ll run into is that stupid people using a tool stupidly will cause problems for everyone else. A lot of the blowback on AI that I see here comes from digital artists or people friends with digital artists, and I can see where they’re coming from. That field is hosed and there’s not going to be any legislation that can do anything more than help temporarily.
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Tiny Timbs posted:It’s been really amusing seeing all of the goons try to trash talk the AI/ML advances as simultaneously completely worthless and capable of eliminating all their jobs. I am eagerly awaiting the day AI eliminates my job. Then I don't have to support this buggy, outdated, overly complex, daisy-chained house of cards piece of crap web application anymore. That day won't arrive.
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M_Gargantua posted:The problem is the word processor didn't actually put secretaries out of work. There is still an important role in the office that a dedicated person can perform and improve upon, however as a cost saving measure companies have simply killed that position and just burdened their other staff with those tasks. Secretaries are now reserved as a status symbol in most corporate culture, even though any team of like 20+ people could really use one. But it just plain wouldn't have been possible to make people do their own secretarial work without word processors (and e-mail, and electronic calendars, etc). Excel means you need fewer accountants per analyst, you get the idea. Large language models are probably going to do the same for meeting notes, data entry, you name it. None of these fundamentally change how a company runs or even necessarily produce better results than dedicated employees, but each turn of the crank means some combination of decreased costs and letting people more people focus on "higher level" work that can't just be automated away because it requires human input. My prediction, for whatever little it's worth, is that in 5-10 years a lot of office workers are going to need to know how to use "AI" tools in the same way they need Outlook and Google today just as a bare minimum to get in the door. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Defenestrategy posted:I don't believe social engineering will improve as a tool against everyday people*. Corporations will have to worry about it, because already emails from bosses saying "I'm in meeting please send 50$ google play" already work randomly. Give those kinds of scams an audio generator trained on a large corporations boss's public speeches and you'd probably end up with the keys to the kingdom eventually. I'm not sure what you're basing this comment on, but as a cybersecurity incident responder I've seen a dramatic increase in social engineering attacks against everyday people in the last year and it's definitely not impacting only the elderly and the corporations. People in their 20s, 30s and 40s are sending money to deepfaked friends and relatives who need to get their car out of impound, or pay a ticket, or get bail money, or emergency rent help, etc. I know of half a dozen successful attacks in the last three months just among people I know personally. Sophistication of the attacks is increasing, and peoples' vigilance is dropping due to fatigue because everybody is hosed and in trouble right now financially. Hyrax Attack! posted:Legit wonder how good AI is getting at skunkworks and tech company research labs. Not trying to be I've been working with municipalities and 911 call center operators to try to find ways to determine if someone is mass-generating fake emergency calls and develop a plan for what to do if it happens. In my region they're required by statute to respond to all calls and if they start getting a million robocalls, it can get them in serious regulatory trouble if that results in inability to respond. It's a serious problem that public safety and emergency management professionals are very concerned about - but nobody has a good solution for. In other words, this space is ripe for exploitation and I consider it to be a matter of time before a city's emergency response during a major disaster is paralyzed by a storm of false but realistic-seeming reports.
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but feels like they are slow walking how powerful video/image/audio tools are publicly available, because of the obvious malicious potential, but it’s still wild what’s free. In FB chat they added AI generated stickers & as of this morning it still happily creates images of Zuckerberg & Mickey Mouse kissing.
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bird food bathtub posted:Argh he set the marshmallow on fire that just ruins the whole thing and results in such an inferior treat. Gotta go slow with that kind of thing and brown the outside over time while heating the entire marshmallow to gooey, tasty goodness. This works especially well with my family tradition of roasting Peeps instead of marshmallows. Go slow and caramelize the sugar coating into a wonderful, crunchy shell and then the inside is all melted, delicious diabetes but those are REALLY terrible to set on fire. The sugar coating just turns into carbon and all you taste is burnt terribleness if you aren't going to be patient and put in the work for something good. I think he would know munchies better than you
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Kesper North posted:I'm not sure what you're basing this comment on, but as a cybersecurity incident responder I've seen a dramatic increase in social engineering attacks against everyday people in the last year and it's definitely not impacting only the elderly and the corporations. I must be a cheap bastard because nobody has asked me to send them money.
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My old man was/is getting scammed by someone, apparently he sent someone at least $500 in Razer gift cards. I've been getting lots of fake invoices from Geek Squad and Microsoft lately. The world's in a weird way right now. Cut off from all external things, my life is reasonably ok, which I'm very grateful for, but holy hell are we staring down the barrel of an absolute nightmarish pile of poo poo in the extremely near future. I just feel super uncomfortable thinking about anything more than a few weeks in the future.
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Kesper North posted:I'm not sure what you're basing this comment on, but as a cybersecurity incident responder I've seen a dramatic increase in social engineering attacks against everyday people in the last year and it's definitely not impacting only the elderly and the corporations. Wouldn't that level of personalization suggest that those individuals are being targeted by somebody they know? The efficacy of large scale phishing campaigns or redirects or whatever seem to rely on the fact that many people use certain sites and could expect an invoice from apple/amazon/whoever based on their recent activity. Getting enough information to specifically suggest that somebody is at the local jail / garage and needs money for their ${carMakeandModel} or whatever would suggest a level of granularity that should be hard to maintain Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Wouldn't that level of personalization suggest that those individuals are being targeted by somebody they know? The efficacy of large scale phishing campaigns or redirects or whatever seem to rely on the fact that many people use certain sites and could expect an invoice from apple/amazon/whoever based on their recent activity. Getting enough information to specifically suggest that somebody is at the local jail / garage and needs money for their ${carMakeandModel} or whatever would suggest a level of granularity that should be hard to maintain I don't think so, you just need to gain access to someone's friends/contacts list and blast a phishook out to all of them. 99% will recognize it as a scam, but if you do it thousands of times you get enough hits to make it worthwhile.
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https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1726710073370816944?t=C849R7ggpDl8yTqCzp4R3Q&s=19 Your good (great) favorite President is healthy and smart due to good genes
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1726710073370816944?t=C849R7ggpDl8yTqCzp4R3Q&s=19 Given his diet and lack of exercise, his genes probably are pretty drat good for him to be alive and functioning.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Given his diet and lack of exercise, his genes probably are pretty drat good for him to be alive and functioning. Considering all his psychological issues and mental decline, I'm more doubtful
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Grip it and rip it posted:Wouldn't that level of personalization suggest that those individuals are being targeted by somebody they know? The efficacy of large scale phishing campaigns or redirects or whatever seem to rely on the fact that many people use certain sites and could expect an invoice from apple/amazon/whoever based on their recent activity. Getting enough information to specifically suggest that somebody is at the local jail / garage and needs money for their ${carMakeandModel} or whatever would suggest a level of granularity that should be hard to maintain Lord no, people put loving everything on social media and half of them have publicly viewable profiles that make scraping the necessary information trivially easy. And a surprising number of people fall victim to obviously fake pretexts. Humans, for the most part, are credulous idiots; I am astounded on a daily basis that we survived long enough to gently caress up the planet. People who produce video content and podcasts are especially vulnerable since there are lots of samples of their voices, but attackers can, will and have created audio deepfakes based on recordings of your voice when you answer a spam call. Like, you know when you get a call, pick up, say "Hello"? With enough "hellos" they can deepfake your voice; if they get you to answer some questions ("no", "yes", "why the gently caress are you calling me about car insurance when i don't have a car", etc) then that gives them even more of a sample. This criminal business model synergizes well with spam call center operators overseas; they're already calling people and asking them inane questions all the time! But now they can augment that income by collecting audio datasets for future deepfakes at the same time. There's a huge growth industry in this, you just don't see it because it's mostly in very poor countries. Wingnut Ninja posted:I don't think so, you just need to gain access to someone's friends/contacts list and blast a phishook out to all of them. 99% will recognize it as a scam, but if you do it thousands of times you get enough hits to make it worthwhile. It's this. A surprising amount of people will do things just because their "friend" asked them to in FB messenger. Sometimes it doesn't even require hacking that Facebook account; you can grift suckers with cloned accounts too. A few hundred bucks is worth a lot of effort if you live in Lagos! Crab Dad posted:I must be a cheap bastard because nobody has asked me to send them money. For a while I was getting multiple daily texts from "my CEO" asking that I send him gift cards. If I'm bored I gently caress with the attacker by wasting their time and pretending to be stupid. If I'm busy I just send them dickbutte.jpg Kesper North fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:AI art is extremely impressive https://twitter.com/EnBuenora/status/1716169798269522402?t=GRszjNOc2gkEK0ZKSaqowg&s=19 
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in my work career of 30 years I have never once given a gift to anyone over me from a boss to a lol CEO. Who are these idiots thinking the CEO cares who they are I got a bridge to sell them.
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Crab Dad posted:in my work career of 30 years I have never once given a gift to anyone over me from a boss to a lol CEO. Who are these idiots thinking the CEO cares who they are I got a bridge to sell them. It probably works super well on executive assistants who get sent on personal errands all the time
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Crab Dad posted:in my work career of 30 years I have never once given a gift to anyone over me from a boss to a lol CEO. Who are these idiots thinking the CEO cares who they are I got a bridge to sell them. Might I interestes you in a bussness opportunity for black fuel saving engine boxes? We only use the high-tech usb cable! I also got a crystal that will make new horsepowers
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https://bsky.app/profile/akivamcohen.bsky.social/post/3keo2c3iews2s "Hey, Litigation Disaster Tourists! Musk went and did it. He filed the SLAPP suit against Media Matters. This thing will likely rival the Trump election suits for frivolity so let's read it together, why don't we? Complaint is here. First thing I want to do when someone files a transparently ridiculous lolsuit is look at both jurisdiction and which lawyers filed it. And ... hooo. Boy. Wow. Does this ever tell some stories Let's start with the choice of counsel. In the Merger Agreement litigation between Musk and Twitter, he was represented by Skadden Arps, the whitest of white-shoe biglaw firms. In the litigation with Twitter's former employees, X Corp is represented by biglaw - Morgan Lewis. AkivaMCohen @akivamcohen.bsky.social · 11m In Concord Music v. X Corp, X is defended by Quinn Emanuel - biglaw. Gjoni v. Twitter? Morgan Lewis. Gerber v. Twitter? Quinn Emanuel. Case after case, big and small, Musk's twitter is represented by the largest law firms in the country. Stone Hilton and SL Law? Not in that category AkivaMCohen @akivamcohen.bsky.social · 9m And if you look at that sig block closely, it doesn't seem like anyone from biglaw is riding to the rescue for Elon here. The folks from Stone Hilton are "admission pending" - meaning they're not local counsel who happens to be already admitted in the court of choice. They're the ones who are asking AkivaMCohen @akivamcohen.bsky.social · 7m to be allowed to practice in the Northern District of Texas. (Typically, you get local counsel who is already admitted, and then lead counsel asks to be admitted "pro hac vice" [for this one case]). So why isn't Elon using biglaw this time? AkivaMCohen @akivamcohen.bsky.social · 5m Well, one reason is he went with politically connected Texas lawyers, reflecting the extent to which people think that Texas courts are political actors, not legal actors. All three of the lawyers in that signature block have backgrounds with the Texas AG's office or Solicitor General's office AkivaMCohen @akivamcohen.bsky.social · 4m But also, I think Brian has this EXACTLY correct. All those big firms Elon usually uses? They probably went "gently caress, no, are you out of your mind? This is a baaaaad idea" Brian Griffith @qlippot.bsky.social · 6m" Sorry, blue sky doesn't embed great all the time so I figure a link to the post and a bunch of copy and pasted text would be better than just a bare link.
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