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I am looking at the calendar ,seeing characters we like, and wondering again why we're wasting time with randos instead of our established cast.
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Feels like we should be approaching a climax but keep stalling on needless digressions
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Nov 17, 2023 19:55
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Oh boy remember this guy? From when the comic was still good?
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Nov 17, 2023 21:15
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Cool, something interesting is happening! We're finally gonna see Kat have to deal with some of the consequences of her actions maybe and find out how she ascends to godhood!  Like I know this thread gets a lot of poo poo and treated as a downward spiral mock thread but like, all of us enjoyed this comic once, I think? All of us would love to see it get better. So I'm willing to celebrate positive developments even if I'm extremely prepared to be let down by something dumb like Kat shrugging her shoulders and handwaving things. edit: Thinking about it though, I don't really get why Arbiter Saslamel would be here. Hopefully we'll find out more, but wasn't his whole deal about contracts and ownership? Wouldn't matters of this nature be delegated to somewhere like ROTD or some other power? I thought the whole deal was that Kat didn't have ownership over them anymore because they were becoming a sentient living creature and had to modify the contract as such as a result. Maybe we're finding out what was in that super long contract Kat didn't read. Tiny Myers fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Nov 20, 2023 11:43
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Watch it be Diego.
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Brightman posted:Watch it be Diego.
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"He died and I did nothing" *leaves*
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Tiny Myers posted:Cool, something interesting is happening! We're finally gonna see Kat have to deal with some of the consequences of her actions maybe and find out how she ascends to godhood! E: so one possible interpretation of what's going on is that the Arbiter is calling in Kat to confirm the precedent of Annie "claiming" this robot soul because once she does she now has first dibs on all robot souls. Ketrak->Insects Annie->Robots Splicer fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Nov 20, 2023 12:18
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Well that confirms everyone's favorite character Lana is still alive
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Nov 20, 2023 12:51
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Splicer posted:Owner and keeper are different things. Think ward vs slave. Kat doesn't own the robots but she does have a responsibility toward the lives she essentially created. I like this theory. Annie becoming the resident psychopomp for nu-people would dovetail nicely with Kat becoming their god, and it would fulfill Annie's arc of becoming a psychopomp, as well as tying into how much they help and rely on each other as friends, with Annie helping with whatever ether stuff (guiding robots in death) and Kat handling the technical stuff (guiding robots in life). Once again, Kat and Annie sit on either side of the spiritual/technical divide across from each other. It's funny if you think about Coyote answering "It's man's endeavor to become God" when asked what the Court is, and here we have two young girls becoming the god and the reaper of a new species.
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Nov 20, 2023 13:22
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Tiny Myers posted:I like this theory. Annie becoming the resident psychopomp for nu-people would dovetail nicely with Kat becoming their god, and it would fulfill Annie's arc of becoming a psychopomp, as well as tying into how much they help and rely on each other as friends, with Annie helping with whatever ether stuff (guiding robots in death) and Kat handling the technical stuff (guiding robots in life). Once again, Kat and Annie sit on either side of the spiritual/technical divide across from each other. The whole loup and later loup/lana thing at least made sense in the abstract, it was the execution that was garbage.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Well that confirms everyone's favorite character Lana is still alive I kinda expected Annie to put two and two together about this here, but tbf she has other poo poo going on at the moment I guess.
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Splicer posted:Owner and keeper are different things. Think ward vs slave. Kat doesn't own the robots but she does have a responsibility toward the lives she essentially created. Randalor posted:Oh please let it be something minor like a psychopomp going "Hang on, we have no information on these nu-humans, gimme a sec to talk to him so you know where to send him" and not fantasci-fi racism because "These ROBOTS are soulless despite you literally talking to his soul! You cannot escort this not-siul to the afterlife! I must destroy this not-soul!" But seriously, I really hope it's just "Huh, we don't actually know what to do with these souls now. Hang on, we just need to ask their creator what they want done the soul after life." Kinda makes sense if you're the God of insects and you want them to reincarnate instead of go to insect heaven, that the reaper takes them to the rebirthing room rather than the pearly gates.
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Nov 20, 2023 15:23
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GunnerJ posted:I kinda expected Annie to put two and two together about this here, but tbf she has other poo poo going on at the moment I guess.
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I wonder if by calling forth the keeper of "this soul" and it being Kat, that she ascends to godhood immediately based off sovereignty. As another authority has recognized her as the keeper, she becomes divine, or something. And then the little translator blob can be all "Oh neat another God. Anyways." because nothing surprises them.Tiny Myers posted:I wonder what the glass crack is about? Note Block fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Nov 20, 2023 22:55
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Note Block posted:I wonder if by calling forth the keeper of "this soul" and it being Kat, that she ascends to godhood immediately based off sovereignty. As another authority has recognized her as the keeper, she becomes divine, or something. And then the little translator blob can be all "Oh neat another God. Anyways." because nothing surprises them. I'm looking forward to seeing whether she pops out in her machine goddess form or human.
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Surprise twist, the keeper of the soul is Aata, as the highest-ranking member of the Court (his resignation is still pending approval as the rest of the Court staff hosed off already) and the machines were Court property.
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Note Block posted:I wonder if by calling forth the keeper of "this soul" and it being Kat, that she ascends to godhood immediately based off sovereignty. As another authority has recognized her as the keeper, she becomes divine, or something. And then the little translator blob can be all "Oh neat another God. Anyways." because nothing surprises them. Yeah, I'm expecting this to lead to her apotheosis in one way or another, whether it's now or through the process of the numan being absorbed into the Ether - we've talked about how the Ether is the fabric of reality and can retroactively change things, and the robots believe strongly that Kat is a goddess with their entire being, so the more people get led into the Ether, the more likely reality itself is to warp to accommodate that fact. One guy doing it shouldn't change it though, because then you could ascend to godhood just by conditioning a single person to think you're God incarnate then kill them.
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Assuming it's Kat, the surprise isn't that she's a god. The surprise is that she's not the god of robots but of Humans 2: Boring Edition
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Tiny Myers posted:Yeah, I'm expecting this to lead to her apotheosis in one way or another, whether it's now or through the process of the numan being absorbed into the Ether - we've talked about how the Ether is the fabric of reality and can retroactively change things, and the robots believe strongly that Kat is a goddess with their entire being, so the more people get led into the Ether, the more likely reality itself is to warp to accommodate that fact. One guy doing it shouldn't change it though, because then you could ascend to godhood just by conditioning a single person to think you're God incarnate then kill them. I guarantee you Tom didn't consider that last point at all and it's exactly what's going to happen.
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Tiny Myers posted:Yeah, I'm expecting this to lead to her apotheosis in one way or another, whether it's now or through the process of the numan being absorbed into the Ether - we've talked about how the Ether is the fabric of reality and can retroactively change things, and the robots believe strongly that Kat is a goddess with their entire being, so the more people get led into the Ether, the more likely reality itself is to warp to accommodate that fact. One guy doing it shouldn't change it though, because then you could ascend to godhood just by conditioning a single person to think you're God incarnate then kill them. That person would also have to be the first of a new kind of living creature going by the rules here, which tbf is pretty god-ish and seems fair. If the deceased was just some random human raised to worship Kat, by the arbiter's words, he wouldn't have bothered and would have just let Annie handle it.
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mycatscrimes posted:That person would also have to be the first of a new kind of living creature going by the rules here, which tbf is pretty god-ish and seems fair. If the deceased was just some random human raised to worship Kat, by the arbiter's words, he wouldn't have bothered and would have just let Annie handle it. I mean by the logic of robots being sentient before being put into new bodies, that would still arguably be Diego? I know that's not where this is going but where we seem to functionally be going is "they weren't properly alive until Kat upgraded the size of their internal storage drives" Real comedy option is all the robots were effectively immortal until Kat put them in bodies complicated and fragile enough to actually die smash cut to kat admitting that she set their brains up as raid 0 thinking it wouldn't be a problem Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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for kat to actually go full mother of machines she needs sufficient belief in the ether, so alot more numans need to die before we get that
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Are they in the ether now? I'm wondering if Coyote/Jerrik/Zimmy's mindscape covering the entire Court and all the numans inside of it will be what sets off Kat's apotheosis once she's drawn into it. And that's assuming that any non-numan robots caught in the mindscapes don't also add to it, despite being soulless (does it go off of what entities with souls believe, or just belief in general? Because if it's the latter, there were a LOT of robots that viewed her as a goddess.)
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I mean by the logic of robots being sentient before being put into new bodies, that would still arguably be Diego? I know that's not where this is going but where we seem to functionally be going is "they weren't properly alive until Kat upgraded the size of their internal storage drives" In a single panel wedged between multiple pages of people being sad about Lana it was mentioned that the new people look different in the ether now. That was the payoff for she gave us an ocean and new contract. The robots are now living etheric beings instead of objects: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2155 Diego created magic tools. His tools made tools. Kat took these raw materials and transformed them into souls. When a God breathes life into clay you don't go fetch the guy who planted trees. You do apparently spend ages waffling about a girl who got fridge vored. Splicer fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Imagine if the whole Lana/Loup thing hadn't been such a damp squib and Lana had been killed by Coyote. Then Lana's soul pops up and Loup is all "she's right there though" and Annie was all "yeah that's not how it works" and Kat was all "yeah it could be though one sec" and starts building a new "shove Lana into a new body" machine and Lana is all "I don't think humans get to do that so I'd like to do what humans do" and Kat is all "...huh, yeah, now that you mention it I could probably do this for humans too brb"
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Splicer posted:Imagine if the whole Lana/Loup thing hadn't been such a damp squib and Lana had been killed by Coyote. Then Lana's soul pops up and Loup is all "she's right there though" and Annie was all "yeah that's not how it works" and Kat was all "yeah it could be though one sec" and starts building a new "shove Lana into a new body" machine and Lana is all "I don't think humans get to do that so I'd like to do what humans do" and Kat is all "...huh, yeah, now that you mention it I could probably do this for humans too brb" That would be the perfect narrative payoff to the whole "the Court people want to be gods". It would also be a believable dividing point between Kat/Court and Annie/Forest because I could see Annie and the Forest side being aghast at humans becoming immortal.
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Hello! I haven't been following Gunnerkrigg for over a year now (When you discovered Loup was disguising himself as that boy and then a weird love triangle started between him, Annie and the robot turned girl). Is it worth binging the comic up to the current point or should I let it cook a bit longer?
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Nov 21, 2023 20:12
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Let it fester It not good for a while now.
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This page and the previous are the most interesting pages since you last read it, easily.
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Donkringel posted:Hello! I haven't been following Gunnerkrigg for over a year now (When you discovered Loup was disguising himself as that boy and then a weird love triangle started between him, Annie and the robot turned girl). Is it worth binging the comic up to the current point or should I let it cook a bit longer? Option 1: Stop there, imagine a satisfying narrative ending, and leave and never come back. Option 2: feeling “surely it can’t be that bad, the thread’s just salty and it’s just a blip!” that most of us all started with, binge up to the current page and join us as we sit around this fridge going  in our grim sunk cost fallacy of a reading journey.
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coolusername posted:Option 1: Stop there, imagine a satisfying narrative ending, and leave and never come back.
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I hope that the chapter end mark doesn't mean that we're going to cut away from this scene at the worst possible time.
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Oh hi Kat. So is this her as the Divine Goddess Of The Machine made manifest, or did she just make herself a giant mecha suit so she could hopefully go toe-to-toe with Coyote/Jerrik and save her friends, and it just happens to look like her Ether form (when did that first show up in all its horrible divine glory, anyways?)
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Splicer posted:I was looking for an old post and my post history is a textbook progression of the stages of loss starting March 3rd 2021 Things keep getting just interesting enough every now and then to bring us back to bargaining, we can never truly grieve and move on 
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Randalor posted:Oh hi Kat. https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1049 Here, I'm pretty sure
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So aside from these last few pages this chapter was entirely filler, huh?
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I think now that we're seeing what the glass cracking was all about. It's Kat's influence on the ether, causing it to break down around her, which is apparently causing reality itself to crack open (or something) perhaps due to the ether-heavy poo poo that's going on with Zimmy and Coyote, or perhaps because Kat's ascension is finally happening thus amplifying the power by several magnitudes (which explains why it's getting progressively worse in the last few strips). Either way something cool is happening yaaaaay Too bad about the chapter end symbol meaning we're gonna get some foot-dragging before we can see what's really happening, and yeah, acknowledging that most of this chapter was largely a weird filler retread of "remember when this comic was good once". Also very rushed at a lot of points. Let's talk about the fact that one of these girls may be Zimmy- quick, smash cut to Jeanne killing generic robot #2839432 because the plot needs a robot to be dead right now! I've complained about it before but so many events in this comic increasingly feel like they only happen because the author needs them to be happening at that moment for whatever reason, rather than it being a natural Point A->Point B conclusion of reasonably-written plot threads/characterization. Unfortunate but like I said I'm going to give credit where credit's due and say I am interested in whatever's happening. However if the next chapter cuts to normal-Kat once again in a generic room talking about how boring it is that she gets the short end of the Ether stick while everyone around her cowers in fear, I will riot
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