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It's almost as if AI is involved in production somehow, like it's some kind of means or something, and maybe it matters who controls it. Someone should write some books about this, I reckon
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Reduce food waste and improve yields. I think I'd prefer imprisoning the Tory scum and the wealthy cunts that they've helped rob society for the last 45 years, take their ill gotten gains and redistribute them fairly to solve our poverty issues. But that's me.
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Nov 20, 2023 23:59
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Chubby Henparty posted:Not sure if those posts are meant to be read in Chris Morris or Vic Reeves' voice, they both work. ooh vah voo
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Nov 21, 2023 00:02
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Jedit posted:I think I'd prefer imprisoning the Tory scum and the wealthy cunts that they've helped rob society for the last 45 years, take their ill gotten gains and redistribute them fairly to solve our poverty issues. But that's me.
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Nov 21, 2023 00:03
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Guavanaut posted:What if we reduced food waste and improved yields by turning them into sausages? I'm not eating Tory. There's nothing of modesty to them anyway.
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Nov 21, 2023 00:07
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Wachter posted:It's almost as if AI is involved in production somehow, like it's some kind of means or something, and maybe it matters who controls it. Someone should write some books about this, I reckon Guavanaut posted:What if we reduced food waste and improved yields by turning them into sausages?
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Nov 21, 2023 00:13
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I'd eat a tory. I don't think I'd enjoy it but willing to try for the greater good.
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Nov 21, 2023 00:15
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lmao at the Torygraph getting bought out by Abu Dhabi
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i think my main concern about ai right now might be that microsoft are crippling the bing image ai with such restrictive censoring to prevent you doing a kier starmer shrek with his tits and cock out that whatever they end up producing will be an incredible shut in ai terrified of sex and criticising those in power.
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Nov 21, 2023 00:29
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AI can be fun and could probably have actual utility in another economic model but as it stands it exists between fun and loving people over. 
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Nov 21, 2023 00:35
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where is all this loving people over everyone is talking about? Like "lol AI is poo poo" "oh no my job" which is it?
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Nov 21, 2023 00:37
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it can very much be both because bosses are dumb as poo poo
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Nuclear Spoon posted:it can very much be both because bosses are dumb as poo poo maybe we should make ai the bosses then? seeing as all bosses are idiot dumb as poo poo failsons
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Nov 21, 2023 00:39
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Ms Adequate posted:AI can be fun and could probably have actual utility in another economic model but as it stands it exists between fun and loving people over. chatgpt and Bing have been useful but not transformative in my professional work they're good for either first drafts of boilerplate nonsense or a quick once over edit of my own first draft of communication, either of which saves me some time and effort
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Nov 21, 2023 00:44
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NotJustANumber99 posted:where is all this loving people over everyone is talking about? https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2023/05/31/non-profit-helpline-fires-staff-shifts-to-chatbot-solution/?sh=71ef017a6dad
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Nov 21, 2023 00:45
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NotJustANumber99 posted:where is all this loving people over everyone is talking about? also yes I'm not entirely convinced that the net impact of text ai in the immediate past/future is job loss
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ItohRespectArmy posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2023/05/31/non-profit-helpline-fires-staff-shifts-to-chatbot-solution/?sh=71ef017a6dad your source posted:A half-dozen human staff OH poo poo!
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Nov 21, 2023 00:50
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NotJustANumber99 posted:OH poo poo! i think its bad for anyone to lose their jobs for trying to unionise and then be scabbed out for a chatbot that actively harmed people trying to get help
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Nov 21, 2023 00:52
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ItohRespectArmy posted:i think its bad for anyone to lose their jobs for trying to unionise and then be scabbed out for a chatbot that actively harmed people trying to get help i dont think anyone here would disagree but I'm not sure they'd lean on a news story about the loss of 6 jobs when trying to demonstrate AI as a gamechanger destroyer of jobs.
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Nov 21, 2023 00:56
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i dont think anyone here would disagree but I'm not sure they'd lean on a news story about the loss of 6 jobs when trying to demonstrate AI as a gamechanger destroyer of jobs. you actually seem very pleased and excited at the prospect.
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Nov 21, 2023 01:01
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ItohRespectArmy posted:you actually seem very pleased and excited at the prospect. Do I. Thanks for that insight. Well its a dual edged sword isnt it? In that yes I'd be ecstatic if AI meant none of us had to work again and we could all just survive, and thrive, on our own terms. But your own article says as soon as the ai was given those 6 people's jobs it basically hosed it totally. So were not there yet.
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Nov 21, 2023 01:09
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Well its a dual edged sword isnt it? Yes. And who's holding it? What, historically, are they likely to cut with it?
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Nov 21, 2023 01:29
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NotJustANumber99 posted:where is all this loving people over everyone is talking about? We called it 'Machine Learning' in my customer support company here. And about 7 or so years ago they announced an initiative to add it to help us, and to which we thought would eventually replace us. And they added it to parts of the system, and it sort of works well. But they stopped it as its a huge waste of money and not helping much. The problem they found out is that you could write the next Skynet or Data, but you can't force customers to give you the correct input data for it to work. For example a lot of contacts we get are just 'help me'. A lot of people seem to think that we can read their minds, or see what they can see or have done. Or are the contact that last talked to, so instantly remembers what they chatted about. So you still need a human to read whatever the machine does.
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AI obviously had actual use which is only going to increase as it advances. The difficulty is that currently this intersects with politics in a very unhelpful way. AI is a tool and is currently a pretty good one in some circumstances, and has potential to be an incredible one, but our issue isn’t with our tools. It’s with how we use them, and that’s a human, social, political problem. Our current issues are human based and no amount of good tools will change that. We need to change how the tools are used and the purpose they’re used for. Decrying AI is dumb, putting your faith in AI is also dumb. It’s like putting your faith/decrying a hammer, a spade, or a gun.
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Nov 21, 2023 01:47
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Jakabite posted:Decrying AI is dumb, putting your faith in AI is also dumb. It’s like putting your faith/decrying a hammer, a spade, or a gun. solving malnutrition using gun is Rishi's plan B
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Chatgpt is pretty helpful at saving time, but don't ever use it in a subject you're not familiar with because it just makes poo poo up constantly. If you know the topic, you can get it to generate useful stuff in-between the bullshit and pick it out way quicker than you can write boring dreck yourself. Meaning, yeah. It's basically useless for the general public. Pretty funny getting CVs written by AI lately though.
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Mebh posted:Chatgpt is pretty helpful at saving time, but don't ever use it in a subject you're not familiar with because it just makes poo poo up constantly. If you know the topic, you can get it to generate useful stuff in-between the bullshit and pick it out way quicker than you can write boring dreck yourself. I just googled how to get chat gpt to write a cv for you and it came up with an example for a scrum master job. Having no idea what a scrum master does (some Agile thingy is about as much as I know), I looked up scrum master: quote:As the title implies, the scrum master is the master of scrum, who ensures the scrum framework is followed. Scrum has a clearly defined set of roles and rituals that should be followed and the scrum master works with each member of the scrum team to guide and coach the team through the scrum framework. What a load of Emperor's New Clothes. That's even better than my (long expired) Six Sigma Black Belt
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NotJustANumber99 posted:where is all this loving people over everyone is talking about? Damage to artists and efforts to use it to replace actors in various contexts are the big ones. Also I can't imagine what freelance writing and copywriting looks like these days, though I've not been doing that for years and years now it was already dying a death. Not that I take issue with tech replacing jobs, in fact I think it's a very good thing, but the absence of a good framework for handling such events has long been a problem capitalism can't cope with.
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Yeah half the issue is not that someone walked into an office and said "Attention Bajoran workers! You are being replaced by ChatGPT" and then booted them all out, it's the concerns of freelancers and comissioned artists who won't ever appear on the 'people fired' stats. A while back there was a furore in the book world because a reasonably large publisher tried to use AI for a cover, and everyone kicked off because of what it represented - if the publisher had gotten away with it, then no major publisher would ever pay artists again. The same way Hollywood was literally just on strike so studios would be able to hire extras once and then never pay them again (or pay them a reduced rate for their likeness) completely destroying and homogenising the acting industry. Funnily enough a different publisher just got caught trying the 'oopsie, we didn't know' excuse, and it's one of those things that without robust legislation is something they're going to keep trying until it becomes normal.
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AI is just the Blockchain for 2023 as far as I can see. Whereas a couple of years ago, people would say stuff like "the Blockchain is going to revolutionise the welfare system!" now they say it's going to be AI instead. Personally, I've found ChatGpt useful for certain narrow applications in my work, but it can't be trusted to do things by itself and it's certainly no substitute for a human.
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Fabricant has a new hair challenger? New falklands war just dropped. https://twitter.com/RondelleHobbs/status/1726549220554076326 https://twitter.com/CatchUpFeed/status/1726384376756519029 https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1726465012007371051
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He's got a poo poo haircut, looks like a guy I went to college with in the 90s.lmao
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Oh good that guy won. We gonna get a Falklands 2.0 from him? An actual war might be the one thing to save Rishi, so you know he'd be game.
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Seems a 5-day truce may be on the table I/P. Summary from Palestinian journalist I follow on FB: quote:The expected deal includes a five-day truce that includes a comprehensive ceasefire and hostilities, and a complete cessation of Israeli flights in the skies of the Gaza Strip, with the exception of the northern regions, where flights will be stopped for only six hours a day.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I just googled how to get chat gpt to write a cv for you and it came up with an example for a scrum master job. Having no idea what a scrum master does (some Agile thingy is about as much as I know), I looked up scrum master: To be clear that is exactly how scrum masters talk. It's uncanny.
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EvilHawk posted:To be clear that is exactly how scrum masters talk. It's uncanny. It's just repetitive gobbledy gook. I mean "the scrum master is the master of scrum" WTF? People get paid a lot for this I guess. Maybe I should change jobs.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It's just repetitive gobbledy gook. I mean "the scrum master is the master of scrum" WTF? People get paid a lot for this I guess. Maybe I should change jobs. I honestly think it must be a hard job, because you have to be able to just churn out bullshit for 7 hours a day, with a straight face, to loads of other people who know all you're doing is churning out bullshit. Oh, and doing lots of reporting on dashboards and team velocity, which is similarly dreadful.
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