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Well now I don't know what to think lol but I have a lot of info to mull over. Seems like Jewish supremacy definitely feels like white supremacy to white people since it's probably the closest thing we've experienced
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exmarx posted:anti-zionism = opposed to a colonial ethnostate; antisemitism = racism against jewish people. it's not that hard.
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Israel were also caught sterilizing Ethiopian Jews by administering birth control to them without their knowledge and consent, causing birth-rates to drop 50%.
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any materialist analysis would consider Israel a white supremacist state but yeah as I said, Zionism isn't an explicitly white supremacist ideology
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Israel were also caught sterilizing Ethiopian Jews by administering birth control to them without their knowledge and consent, causing birth-rates to drop 50%. Oh gently caress that's right.
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Chris hipkins is now calling for a cease fire
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...In his position as Labour party leader. Better than nothing I guess  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/502776/labour-leader-chris-hipkins-calls-for-a-ceasefire-in-israel-gaza-conflict "The caretaker government had sought agreement from the opposition before calling for a ceasefire, but did not get it, Hipkins said." Of course National's response is to make it all about them and accuse Labour of "playing politics".
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So hipkins is a coward, should have called for a ceasefire as PM 5 weeks ago. Luxon is a fascist, as he doesn't want a ceasefire.
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Very reminiscent of Jacinda saying she voted yes after the referendum already failed
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Chalupa Joe posted:
Can't wait for three years of "if we say it it's common sense, if they say it it's ideology." We are already eating from the trash can.
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National's position is that they'll call for a ceasefire after the conditions of a ceasefire are met, while Labour's position is that they're calling for both sides to meet the conditions of a ceasefire. Really is two fuckin sides of the same coin. At least Hipkins called out the Israel's response as "disproportionate and indiscriminate" I guess.
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When people say "playing politics" they mean "inauthentic" or in ehis case specifically "they are just saying what people want to hear, they don't believe what they are saying not believe them saying it will have any appreciable effect" right? What a bunch of cunts, they already won for fucks sake they don't have to keep fighting. Labours not loving fighting.
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klen dool posted:When people say "playing politics" they mean "inauthentic" or in ehis case specifically "they are just saying what people want to hear, they don't believe what they are saying not believe them saying it will have any appreciable effect" right? If you're talking about Gerry Brownlee's accusation that labour is "playing politics" over the ceasefire call, he means that Hipkins is trying to make National look bad and gain political favour. In other news, Luxo claims the three parties have reached an agreement on policy and are on to cabinet/ministerial allocations. Winston wouldn't be drawn on whether that was true or what the policies were, but that doesn't mean much.
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bike tory posted:National's position is that they'll call for a ceasefire after the conditions of a ceasefire are met, while Labour's position is that they're calling for both sides to meet the conditions of a ceasefire. Really is two fuckin sides of the same coin. that's a meaningful difference though – "ceasefire now" vs "ceasefire once israel decides to stop bombing"
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bike tory posted:If you're talking about Gerry Brownlee's accusation that labour is "playing politics" over the ceasefire call, he means that Hipkins is trying to make National look bad and gain political favour. It's really easy to make someone look bad when they do it to themselves
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Content to Hover posted:I am looking forward to the moment where Luxon has set up a press briefing to announce the coalition, then Winston adds one last condition. No idea what it will be, but it's going to hurt ACT. 
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i do want to note that while it has been 30 years since ruth richardson was sacked as finance minister, the reason there is still a consensus that "everything bad" traces back to that time is because sacking her didn't undo any of the legislative or societal changes that economic period instituted. it's precisely the changes of this era (not solely richardson's) that allowed capital to enter politics, hollow out parties, and replace them as marketing wings of political ideologies enslaved to capital rule. opportunists and vested interests did not simply fill a political vacuum created by an unexplained loss of ideologies(?) - they ate politics alive from the inside like a wasp larvae, and it was neoliberals who laid the eggs. e: otherwise i largely agree with the points made. Ghostlight fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Was gonna post the same thing, yeah.
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My wife asked me if the government formed yet and now I can't get "how is govvy formed" out of my head. Lolling at Luxon talking about they're gonna form a strong stable government. Those kind of words said so early seem like the kind that come back to haunt you later.
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Our strong stable PM
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three more years of quotes like this folksquote:Asked about Seymour's comments about proportionality, he said: "As I've said from day one I'm not going to get into any of those conversations." also TIL that sanitarium doesn't pay income tax because it's a church and a registered charity??
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bike tory posted:three more years of quotes like this folks
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you didn't know sanitarium is named that because it was a religious mental asylum whose owners invented corn flakes as part of their belief that bland food would stop masturbation urges?
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I knew that, I assumed some time in the last like hundred years it had formed a for-profit business hawking cereal. Kinda like how Kelloggs started as a dude who really didn't want anyone cranking their hog. hosed up that Sanitarium still gets away with it
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Ghostlight posted:you didn't know sanitarium is named that because it was a religious mental asylum whose owners invented corn flakes as part of their belief that bland food would stop masturbation urges? That's kellogs with the cornflakes masturbation thing.
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Project M.A.M.I.L. posted:My wife asked me if the government formed yet and now I can't get "how is govvy formed" out of my head. how is govvy formed how leadder get mandaete
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gently caress I'd have the most popular breakfast foods as well if I didn't have to pay taxes
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ledge posted:That's kellogs with the cornflakes masturbation thing.  TIL they're different companies from the same church
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Will Kellogg (the cornflake inventor) had a falling out with his brother John Harvey Kellogg (the lunatic enema doctor) over commercialisation of cornflakes AND whether they should be sweetened or not. The Kellogg's company as far as I can tell just does the standard large company things to avoid paying taxes, compared to Sanitarium who claim to also be a church/charity.
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it's the ikea maneuver but regardless store brand weetbix is better anyway, it being cheaper is just a bonus. gently caress sanitarium
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Weatherman posted:how is govvy formed THEY NEED TO DO WAY INSTAIN SEYMORE
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Apparently Luxo was expecting to keep NZF and also possibly ACT outside of cabinet quote:It’s believed Luxon was initially hoping to get at least NZ First, if not Act, as a confidence and supply partner rather than inside Cabinet.
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The guy who founded Sanitarium used to work for Kellog at his titular sanitarium, was convinced by church leaders to immigrate to Australian and found Sanitarium, which is wholly owned by the Seventh Day Adventist church. (Seperate Au and NZ companies)
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bike tory posted:Apparently Luxo was expecting to keep NZF and also possibly ACT outside of cabinet See, this is the sort of pro leadership our country needs. Why would you need to know anything about politics when you're a big brained business boy with real world experience?
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Finally some common sense.
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bike tory posted:Apparently Luxo was expecting to keep NZF and also possibly ACT outside of cabinet
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I can't see what act have to bargain with, at least nzf has "we worked with labour before we might do it again"
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