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PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($245.60 @ MemoryC) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($104.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($194.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($88.99 @ Amazon) Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg Sellers) Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Newegg) Total: $954.54 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 17:08 EST-0500 How does that look for a 7600x build? He definitely wants an RGB bling setup. I'm also very much looking at the 12700k builds you guys posted. With a microcenter locally I'll save like $20 on the CPU as well. Is their 7700x bundle at all worth it? It saves over $100 but the RAM looks meh. fknlo fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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fknlo posted:Is their 7700x bundle at all worth it? It saves over $100 but the RAM looks meh. Is a better CPU for $100 less worth it?? Obviously, yes. Take the $100 and buy some more RGB fans for the case or some other RGB tat like a headset stand or something. Edit: you could also get the RGB peerless assassin to save over $50 and have more than enough cooling for a 7600/7700x. Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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fknlo posted:PCPartPicker Part List The RAM is fine, it's the exact version that's been recommended in a few other builds, it just doesn't have RGBling on it. Seconding Butterfly Valley's suggestion of going with the Micro Center 7700X bundle, the RGB Thermalright Peerless Assassin cooler, and then spending your saved money on RGB fans or something else fancy. Gonna preface this with I hate this specific product from Razer, but if you want even more RGB poo poo get him one of these: Razer Goliathus Chroma Gaming Mouse Pad. Or maybe one of these: Razer Leviathan V2 X PC Gaming Soundbar. Kids love this kinda poo poo. Edit: There's also this bundle of SteelSeries gear: SteelSeries Ultimate Gaming Bundle Arctis 1 Wired Headset, Apex 3 Keyboard, Rival 3 Wired Mouse, and QcK Mousepad - Black $65 HyperX Gaming Bundle Edit 2: Changed the parts over to the Micro Center 7700X bundle, Peerless Assassin RGB cooler, and changed the case to the Fractal Design Pop Air since it's cheaper and better rated by GN. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($0.00) Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($0.00) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Best Buy) Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Holo GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB Video Card ($0.00) Case: Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.97 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Newegg) Total: $730.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 18:33 EST-0500 $223.70 saved. Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BVq44M PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($199.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i-17xx 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.95 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte B760I AORUS PRO DDR4 Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($65.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($88.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Terra Mini ITX Desktop Case ($149.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Lian Li SP 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($110.00 @ Newegg Sellers) Monitor: LG 27GL83A-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1638.87 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 16:08 EST-0500 After 7 years of gaming laptops, I'm going back to building a gaming desktop. I've built dozens of computers but haven't really touched desktop internals since I switched to a gaming laptop. I live in a very small space so the only requirement here is a mini itx case and I'm rather attached to the one I picked out above. I'm honestly not sure where to go with the video card right now - I assume there will be some good deals this week and that will change my choice but for now what's best in the $300 range? How are my other choices overall? I also haven't fully checked everything for size/fit inside such a small space and would definitely appreciate any feedback from others who have built mini itx systems. edit: I have a keyboard, mouse, and 5tb external drive that I'll use with this system. The only peripheral I need is a monitor. Capped fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Capped posted:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BVq44M You did pretty well for parts selection I'd say. While I love Noctua, I did change your cooler to a Thermalright AXP90-X47 as iirc it performs better than the regular L9i does. I also went ahead and moved you to a motherboard with DDR5 support and a kit of DDR5 RAM because it's 2023 and if you're building something now and want to upgrade later on that's just one less thing you have to replace. My personal bias on the video card is that the 6700 XT is more card for $310 than the RTX 4060 is for $290; it's the one I'd buy if I was in your shoes. I like the Fractal Design Terra, very good little case. Changed your PSU because even though the Lian Li one is a decent PSU, the Cooler Master V750 SFX is a better rated PSU for only $10 more. I have experience working with its 850W counterpart in my own ITX system. For the monitor I'd direct you to the monitors thread for more detailed advice from someone more knowledgeable. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($199.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright AXP90-X47 42.58 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B760-I GAMING WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.03 @ Amazon) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Best Buy) Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Terra Mini ITX Desktop Case ($149.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 SFX GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($119.98 @ Newegg) Monitor: LG 27GL83A-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1380.86 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 18:59 EST-0500
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Capped posted:I also haven't fully checked everything for size/fit inside such a small space and would definitely appreciate any feedback from others who have built mini itx systems. To offer you something different than Nvidian to think about, here's a list that comes in around the same price as your original build except with a 4070 instead, and otherwise similarly performing components elsewhere, just trimming the fat a little. This would give you much better gaming performance, the only caveat being that it uses a different case. The one I picked is currently on a great sale with a 700W PSU included and if I were building ITX in the US now I'd strongly consider it. Using that case also gives you a bit more clearance for a better cooler. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($199.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Soul 135 82 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock B660M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($50.97 @ Amazon) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Best Buy) Video Card: Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($514.99 @ Newegg) Case: HYTE REVOLT 3 Mini ITX Tower Case w/700 W Power Supply ($101.99 @ Newegg) Monitor: LG 27GL83A-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1311.82 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 19:17 EST-0500 Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Branch Nvidian posted:You did pretty well for parts selection I'd say. While I love Noctua, I did change your cooler to a Thermalright AXP90-X47 as iirc it performs better than the regular L9i does. I also went ahead and moved you to a motherboard with DDR5 support and a kit of DDR5 RAM because it's 2023 and if you're building something now and want to upgrade later on that's just one less thing you have to replace. My personal bias on the video card is that the 6700 XT is more card for $310 than the RTX 4060 is for $290; it's the one I'd buy if I was in your shoes. I like the Fractal Design Terra, very good little case. Changed your PSU because even though the Lian Li one is a decent PSU, the Cooler Master V750 SFX is a better rated PSU for only $10 more. I have experience working with its 850W counterpart in my own ITX system. For the monitor I'd direct you to the monitors thread for more detailed advice from someone more knowledgeable. Much appreciated. I agree with those changes with one caveat - Noctua was always the quietest back when I was building regularly and I assume that's still true. Is that Thermalright going to be considerably louder? I think I might wait and see if there are any good video card deals this week but otherwise I'll order the rest in the next couple days. Butterfly Valley posted:To offer you something different than Nvidian to think about, here's a list that comes in around the same price as your original build except with a 4070 instead, and otherwise similarly performing components elsewhere, just trimming the fat a little. This would give you much better gaming performance, the only caveat being that it uses a different case. The one I picked is currently on a great sale with a 700W PSU included and if I were building ITX in the US now I'd strongly consider it. Using that case also gives you a bit more clearance for a better cooler. That case/psu deal is very, very good. I do value the slightly smaller size and general look of the fractal terra so I think I'm going to stick with that for the time being. That case will be in the back of my mind until I actually order things though. Thanks for chiming in!
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My seven-year old desktop just died, which I guess is fortunate with Black Friday just around the corner. I pirated from lists on the last couple of pages so this is mostly just a collage of Nvidian suggestions, but I am  so the prices are a touch different.Basic idea is a midrange device capable of playing modern poo poo at 1080 and maybe 1440. Already pulled the trigger on a discount 12700, everything else is mutable. The price looked right on the 7800 XT vs the 4070, but don't have a super clear idea about the GPU breakdown this gen. Not looking to break 2kish total regardless, obviously trying to save where I can. Not wedded to an ITX, but they seem popular in the thread atm so whatever. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($291.18 @ Amazon Canada) CPU Cooler: Thermalright AXP90-X47 42.58 CFM CPU Cooler ($27.90 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: ASRock B660M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard ($164.99 @ PC-Canada) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($70.98 @ Amazon Canada) Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($699.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ PC-Canada) Total: $1575.01 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 19:56 EST-0500
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Black Friday sales and realizing that the LGA1700 form is nearing its end meant I pulled the trigger on buying some things when I saw them on sale. I've already bought the CPU, Cooler, and the 990 M.2. I'm upgrading from a i5-6500 , 32GB RAM, GTX 970 4GB so it's going to be a big jump. I had more RAM at one point before some sticks started giving me issues. Originally had the i7-12700K in my cart before convincing myself to at least go to 13700K and I guess at 2AM I decided to just push purchase before I convinced myself that I needed an i9-13900 again. Anyway this is where I ended up after a few months of contemplating and realizing I don't need an i9 13900K, 96GB of RAM, or a 4090, but also failed to get excited over AMD. I also quite liked what I read about this motherboard so I kind of fit the case around that. Grabbed the PSU I did because maybe four years down the line I could upgrade the GPU and/or CPU and still know I'm covered with room to spare. Mostly I'm just looking for confirmation I haven't picked up parts that PC Part Picker wasn't good at catching conflict, or chose something that looks good on paper but actually that model sucks. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($345.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Taichi Lite EATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($299.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($214.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($424.99 @ Newegg) Case: be quiet! Shadow Base 800 DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($154.90 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($154.99 @ Newegg) Total: $2058.74 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 20:16 EST-0500 Comic fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Comic posted:Mostly I'm just looking for confirmation I haven't picked up parts that PC Part Picker wasn't good at catching conflict, or chose something that looks good on paper but actually that model sucks. As you were advised previously, it's just a bit of a weirdly mismatched build where you're overspending in places that have no real tangible benefit and underspending in places you'd actually see improvement. Like spending over $2000 to end up with a 4060ti in a gaming focused system when you could build a system with a 4070 in for around $1000 which would be faster than yours shows you're loving up somewhere. I'm always suspicious when I see builds where the motherboard is nearly as much or more expensive than the CPU. You say you like it - why? Are you planning on overclocking? Do you need all the extra bells and whistles it comes with? Do you need 5 M.2 slots? Will you in the future? How many games do you simultaneously want installed such that you think 8TB is a reasonable starting point for storage? Why've you straight up discounted AMD when for a gaming focused build the 7800X3D is by some distance the best gaming CPU right now? Why do you think you need 64GB of RAM when barely any games even need more than 16GB still? I know it might be too late but I'd have a real rethink if I were you about where you'd get the most bang for your buck. You could buy the better monitor that you desperately need and still build a much better, truly gaming focused rig, for the same price as what you have now. Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Capped posted:Much appreciated. I agree with those changes with one caveat - Noctua was always the quietest back when I was building regularly and I assume that's still true. Is that Thermalright going to be considerably louder? I think I might wait and see if there are any good video card deals this week but otherwise I'll order the rest in the next couple days. Noctua will still be more quiet. Here's a video for comparisons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81KqYZE3HI8 Classy Hydra posted:My seven-year old desktop just died, which I guess is fortunate with Black Friday just around the corner. Slight issue here, the 4000D Airflow, while a great case, is an ATX-sized case. You have an mITX board and a low-profile cooler from Capped's build. Do you want to do ITX or are you wanting a regular ATX mid-tower case? Some things will need/want to be changed depending on which way you go here, because while compatible, that low-profile cooler is going to struggle in a regular case and you'd be better off with something like the Peerless Assassin SE 120 that's been in other builds, and can probably save some moola on an mATX or full ATX motherboard. Regarding GPU breakdown the main take away is, ignoring the 4090, AMD will give you better rasterized performance per dollar than Nvidia will, but Nvidia truly excels in ray tracing, path tracing, and AI/ML-based upscaling tech (DLSS). Comic posted:Black Friday sales and realizing that the LGA1700 form is nearing its end meant I pulled the trigger on buying some things when I saw them on sale. I've already bought the CPU, Cooler, and the 990 M.2. I'm upgrading from a i5-6500 , 32GB RAM, GTX 970 4GB so it's going to be a big jump. I had more RAM at one point before some sticks started giving me issues. Originally had the i7-12700K in my cart before convincing myself to at least go to 13700K and I guess at 2AM I decided to just push purchase before I convinced myself that I needed an i9-13900 again. I have questions about what you're wanting to do on your system before I start removing/downsizing things. I will say that at $2k for a gaming system you should really have at least a 4070 Ti because a lot of your other choices are excessive. I'm also not a fan of be quiet! cases most of the time because they have a tendency to not do great thermally (as a byproduct of extreme sound dampening). I'm going to assume certain choices were made for reasons, but I'd just like to know what those reasons are.
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Classy Hydra posted:My seven-year old desktop just died, which I guess is fortunate with Black Friday just around the corner. For an ATX desktop, you'll want a Peerless Assassin. Also, you have the option of going for a DDR5 board, but it'd cost a bit more. That one's more up to you and your needs, since the LGA 1700 socket can take other CPUs with this board (and a bajillion BIOS updates). PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($291.18 @ Amazon Canada) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.90 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: ASRock B660M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard ($164.99 @ PC-Canada) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($70.98 @ Amazon Canada) Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.97 @ Amazon Canada) Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($699.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ PC-Canada) Total: $1648.99 Edit: Hurr, right, like Nvidian pointed out and as I meant to, is this going to be an ATX or ITX machine, because that affects parts choice. Comic posted:Black Friday sales and realizing that the LGA1700 form is nearing its end meant I pulled the trigger on buying some things when I saw them on sale. I've already bought the CPU, Cooler, and the 990 M.2. I'm upgrading from a i5-6500 , 32GB RAM, GTX 970 4GB so it's going to be a big jump. I had more RAM at one point before some sticks started giving me issues. Originally had the i7-12700K in my cart before convincing myself to at least go to 13700K and I guess at 2AM I decided to just push purchase before I convinced myself that I needed an i9-13900 again. - Are you really going to use all the features of the Tachi (S/PDIF etc)? We can go way cheaper than that but needs matter. - 64GB of RAM is overkill. You'll be fine with 32 unless you're using AutoCAD software or something. We promise. - I'd really go with the 12700 if you can reverse it right now but it's your money - Butterfly's right, you can potentially save elsewhere and go up to a 4070 easily - That is a laffo amount of PSU for those parts - 8TB of SSD storage is A Lot but I get it, but are you sure you can't start off with 4TB and build up, holiday deals or no
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Comic posted:weird build Butterfly Valley posted:I know it might be too late but I'd have a real rethink if I were you about where you'd get the most bang for your buck. You could buy the better monitor that you desperately need and still build a much better, truly gaming focused rig, for the same price as what you have now. keeping the parts you've already bought, thus: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($345.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z790 PG LIGHTNING ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X E OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($714.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Amazon) Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon) Monitor: LG 27GL83A-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1988.82 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 20:45 EST-0500 edit: lol snap VVV Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Comic posted:Black Friday sales and realizing that the LGA1700 form is nearing its end meant I pulled the trigger on buying some things when I saw them on sale. I've already bought the CPU, Cooler, and the 990 M.2. I'm upgrading from a i5-6500 , 32GB RAM, GTX 970 4GB so it's going to be a big jump. I had more RAM at one point before some sticks started giving me issues. Originally had the i7-12700K in my cart before convincing myself to at least go to 13700K and I guess at 2AM I decided to just push purchase before I convinced myself that I needed an i9-13900 again. Going to be preemptive and just post what I think is a far more reasonable alternative with the CPU you already bought and one with a 7800X3D/B650 motherboard if you can return the 13700K. Note that both of these builds can be done even cheaper, I'm just scaling up on the motherboards in case you feel like you need more robust features for something, and I chose the Fractal Pop Silent since you had a be quiet! case, and I'm just interpreting that as you wanting a quiet(er) system. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($345.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI Z790 GAMING PRO WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X E OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($714.99 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($154.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1858.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 20:44 EST-0500 PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($369.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X E OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($714.99 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($154.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1852.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 20:46 EST-0500 Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Classy Hydra posted:My seven-year old desktop just died, which I guess is fortunate with Black Friday just around the corner. Here is an ITX build: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($291.18 @ Amazon Canada) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: ASRock B660M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard ($164.99 @ PC-Canada) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($70.98 @ Amazon Canada) Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($699.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR200 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($91.99 @ Amazon Canada) Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 SFX GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Memory Express) Total: $1634.01 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 20:59 EST-0500 Here is an mATX/ATX build: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($291.18 @ Amazon Canada) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B760M-PLUS WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($114.99 @ Memory Express) Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($699.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ PC-Canada) Total: $1621.02 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 21:02 EST-0500
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SpaceDrake posted:[Trailer announcer voice] It's begun. The 7800X3D is $370 at Best Buy. Listed explicitly as a Black Friday deal. Newegg and Amazon have now price-matched BB on this. Newegg is tagging it as a Black Friday Deal™, Amazon isn't. Will it go lower? Will early October be matches or exceeded? We'll have to find out.
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I keep thinking about this build, it's becoming an intrusive thought. Here is a build that's a dollar more, gets you a 4070 Ti, still has a ridiculous amount of RAM, and a poo poo-load of HDD storage. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($345.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI Z790 GAMING PRO WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL34 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Seagate Enterprise Capacity 10 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($140.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X E OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($714.99 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex VI Platinum PRO 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Newegg Sellers) Total: $2059.83 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 21:11 EST-0500 Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Branch Nvidian posted:Here is an ITX build: Thank you, that's very helpful! As mentioned the ITX/ATX distinction isn't especially important to me except in how it affects the costs of the build, caveman brain just assumed a case that can fit ITX is fine without even thinking about airflow. Will probably build the ATX variant of this in a week, just in case anything gets cheaper by Black Friday.
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Classy Hydra posted:Thank you, that's very helpful! As mentioned the ITX/ATX distinction isn't especially important to me except in how it affects the costs of the build, caveman brain just assumed a case that can fit ITX is fine without even thinking about airflow. https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=&item_id=248726 Never mind, it's the 12700KF. Just go with the previously posted ATX suggestion. Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Branch Nvidian posted:I keep thinking about this build, it's becoming an intrusive thought. The 10TB platter drive as part of the overall system cost. Lmao, god. Also, we've been putting the Crucial P5 Plus 2TB in a lot of recs, but it looks like that party has officially ended outside of Best Buy: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VZWzK8/crucial-p5-plus-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p5pssd8 BB says they'll take orders, but I wonder. That's a part I did snag while I could
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Classy Hydra posted:Thank you, that's very helpful! As mentioned the ITX/ATX distinction isn't especially important to me except in how it affects the costs of the build, caveman brain just assumed a case that can fit ITX is fine without even thinking about airflow. To be clear, ITX specifically refers to the smallest common size of motherboard, but is frequently used as shorthand for SFF (small form factor) systems as a whole, where they're (usually) the only motherboard size that will fit, hence the confusion when you said you wanted to go ITX but had put a small board in a large case. Smaller motherboards will fit in larger cases, and sometimes mATX (the medium motherboard size) motherboards can be good value in larger cases, but there's almost never a reason to put an ITX motherboard (and tiny cooler meant for very space constrained cases) in a full size (ATX) compatible case like you did in your original build. Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Also, lmao. Newegg's "X people have this part in their cart" is an incredible FOMO inducer. I don't think they had that the last time I was putting a PC together, at the dawn of the age of lovely Laptop Hard Drives In Consoles. Also, it looks like the Amazon deal on 12XXX parts is starting to have a little effect: the 12600KF is still available for $140, but orders will now be slightly backed up until December 1-6. ...The 12700KF, 12700K, and 12600K are all still available for immediate shipping, though, lol.
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Twerk from Home posted:If I were you, I'd think about ways to make due with only 1 4TB SSD, and if you need more storage than that you can get a 18TB HDD at Best buy for $200 right now. I already have more than 4TB filled across multiple internal and external drives, but it's not a gaming only machine and there's no way I'd want to fill it up with games (and why would anyone need that many games installed at once?). Living with a PC that had a small SSD for windows and the rest of the storage in other drives has taught me there are still a lot of things out there which don't let you choose a secondary drive. Or worse, they do but then don't work unless you install them there anyway. I would add more m.2 drives before I'd add an HDD, as I want to consolidate my storage in one place. Raw video and audio takes too much space when editing and I hate having to split where I store things. Branch Nvidian posted:I'm also not a fan of be quiet! cases most of the time because they have a tendency to not do great thermally (as a byproduct of extreme sound dampening). This is useful feedback, I honestly just went through cases that could fit the EATX motherboard and it was the one that had good recent reviews and I liked how it looked. Going by that review it seems it actually runs cooler though. I do prefer silent PCs though, not great when microphones pick up fans and I haven't gotten a setup where I'm ready to combat it with acoustic foam. Branch Nvidian posted:I keep thinking about this build, it's becoming an intrusive thought. Haha, sorry, I know it looks kind of weird. I do appreciate everyone's feedback though, a lot of the lopsidedness can be explained by me trying to work against my inclination to not upgrade when I should, based on the last five years. I know I won't upgrade RAM or Storage until I've suffered with them being too low for years. I can reason out $500 for a video card but more feels excessive still, especially when anything is going to be a big upgrade from what I got, and I think the 4060 Ti 16GB is going to more than cover my needs currently. Maybe I'll pick up some game that will show me its limitations but I'm sure it'll be better than cloud gaming. Hopefully some context will help clear intrusive thoughts.  I had never heard of Super Flower but that looks like a great deal on the PSU.
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Comic posted:Raw video and audio takes too much space when editing and I hate having to split where I store things. See, this is the sort of thing we ask for when taking system recommendations into account. All of a sudden, >32GB may make a lot more sense. How big are the videos? Like 1h+ or a bit shorter? How often do you make them? What's the target res? If nothing else, you can start out with 32GB, make sure to use a 4 DIMM mobo, and if 32GB proves insufficient, hey presto, you can easily install more. I'm guessing this also makes the S/PDIF stuff on things like the Taichi more pertinent? This also makes the 13700k make more sense, although I do wonder a little if the 12700K might not still be Enough given that you can get it for ~US$200. You'd be a better judge of your own workflow needs, though, and the additional e-cores on the 13 chips will help (if also start to make things run hotter than hell's saunas). quote:I can reason out $500 for a video card but more feels excessive still, especially when anything is going to be a big upgrade from what I got, and I think the 4060 Ti 16GB is going to more than cover my needs currently. Maybe I'll pick up some game that will show me its limitations but I'm sure it'll be better than cloud gaming. I actually think the Radeon 7800 XT might be more your speed. It's right at $500, and while it doesn't have the extra-nifty Nvidia-specific raytracing and DLSS implementations, it can still do higher-end FSR upscaling stuff for apps that implement it, and while the Radeon raytracing won't currently perform as well as Nvidia's implementation, it's still there and the card performs better in raster-based lighting modes/games. Add in the 16GB of VRAM it comes with, for your productivity stuff and is more VRAM than a 4070/Ti ships with, and that seems like it might be the one that actually meets your needs. SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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If I get buyer's remorse I'll definitely be back to praise all the advice here for being right. I'm still super thankful for the sanity check earlier this year, almost threw down 3-4k for no good reason.SpaceDrake posted:See, this is the sort of thing we ask for when taking system recommendations into account. All of a sudden, >32GB may make a lot more sense. How big are the videos? Like 1h+ or a bit shorter? How often do you make them? What's the target res? If nothing else, you can start out with 32GB, make sure to use a 4 DIMM mobo, and if 32GB proves insufficient, hey presto, you can easily install more. I'm guessing this also makes the S/PDIF stuff on things like the Taichi more pertinent? A lot of my video editing has been few and far between (due to current PC limitations) so it wasn't a pressing need, but contemplation made me think I could pick it up again with a better PC. I've also done some voice recording within the last few years which was another reason I went with a motherboard with good on-board audio. Much like the build though I don't have a whole setup or a consistent need so it is still something I'm working through what works for me. I hate being stubborn about the AMD stuff, logically I know it's good but I can't shake the feeling I'd regret it based on the last time I built an AMD/ATI system. Also I DO kind of want to play around with the 40 series features.
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Comic posted:A lot of my video editing has been few and far between (due to current PC limitations) so it wasn't a pressing need, but contemplation made me think I could pick it up again with a better PC. I've also done some voice recording within the last few years which was another reason I went with a motherboard with good on-board audio. Much like the build though I don't have a whole setup or a consistent need so it is still something I'm working through what works for me. Well, you know what, here's a list revision, accounting for the things you already bought: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (Purchased for $345.00) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased for $33.90) Motherboard: ASRock Z790 LiveMixer ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased for $249.99) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($524.99 @ Newegg w/ mail-in rebate) Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM 64-bit ($20.00 @  The Secret Illicit (and actually totally legal and legit) Goon Market) Total: $1933.83 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-20 17:37 EST-0500 First of all, I went ahead and "dropped down" to the ASRock LiveMixer. It doesn't have quite as fancy a built-in sound chip as the Taichi, but it does have the S/PDIF connector on the rear panel and all the other audio inputs/outputs the Taichi has (which includes a fuckload of USBs of all speeds and sizes that can handle basically any kind of mic or other USB input/output device, audio or visual) as well as the P. Good sound that the other 13th-gen ASRock models have, so it should still suit your needs, and if you end up needing more options and sound firepower, that begins to enter the realm of a dedicated sound card in any event. The AMD-configured LiveMixer has gotten much more mixed reviews (and reports that the first batch of boards might be bum), but the Intel LiveMixer seems to be getting glowing reviews from basically every quarter. It's also got a billion m.2 slots that are mostly very high speed, and a PCIe and one m.2 slot that are actually kind of too fast for practical use right now. And it's $100 less than the Taichi, so that's a plus. I also adjusted the memory to something that should have largely identical performance to the modules you picked previously, but cost a bit less due to being "just" DDR5-6000. DDR5 sticks aren't as mature technologically as old trusty DDR4, so in this case especially just bumping the data rate number isn't the end-all - you've got to keep an eye on the supported timings, too. You can also drop this down to 32GB overall for half the price and save ~$90 while still maintaining the same memory type and having plenty of DIMMs open for memory expansion if you need it, but for the moment we'll leave it at 64GB. I've also gone for The Holy Fractal Pop Air, both because it'll be just about as quiet as the case you picked for $150 and have similar air flow (for almost half the price), it also actually has a pair of 5.25" drive bays at the bottom there, which might be relevant to your future interests, if you want to shove a DVD or BR drive-slash-writer in a slot for some reason (like getting b-roll for videos, archiving older media, et cetera). With the billion USBs you'll have, it'd also be pretty easy to just use an external drive, but it can be handy & satisfying to be able to shove a drive in there for maximum space use, or just use it for additional connector types or other kinds of uses. I'm also going ahead and leaving the second 4TB in place, at least for this; you ultimately know your storage needs, and this can really be configured to taste, especially on something with the slots of a Z790 like the LiveMixer. The savings from all that has gone toward bumping up to an MSI GeForce 4070, which if you trust mail-in rebates can now be had for $525. (You can go for the Zotac model for even less and no mail involved, but I think those are going to disappear increasingly quick here and I wanted to give you a slightly more formidable cooler.) This is 12GB of VRAM as opposed to the 16GB on the previous selection you had, but it will have significantly more firepower to throw into your gaming and potentially your production stuff, your game performance at a 1080p target resolution should be more than enough (even or especially if you use DLSS to upscale to 4k), the 12GB should still be Plenty Enough for most any purpose you can find, and it'll have full hardware and driver support for various DLSS3 and other 4000-series shenanigans you may want to get up to, all without snapping the bank in half. I'll note, though, that this is also a space where you may want to watch for the 4070/80 Super line coming likely in January - though I don't expect those cards to go a single cent below $600 for months and months, at a minimum. I also ultimately went down to the 850W power supply option, which should be... fine? You still have 235W of headroom, which should work out. You can go back up to the 1000W for $40 more, depending on your comfort level; this all does have more power draw than the old configuration thanks to the 4070. (Sidebar: I've noticed higher-end 12/13XXX CPUs have an annoying tendency to fall into frustrating TDP/power corners where they strictly break the "1.5x times the draw for PSU rating" rule, but not enough that taking the higher-step upgrade feels worth it.) Even factoring in $20 for the OS by taking advantage of the Secret Goon Exchange, this should save you just about $130 while still meeting your stated needs and desires, along with a few of the other savings points noted above. Note that, if you can get the 13700K canceled still and swap over to a 12700KF (which would be a bit worse-performing on productivity stuff, but would still be quick as hell compared to your current rig) you'll save both a little bit of power and also an additional $145 while still being compatible with all the rest of these parts. I'd do that, personally, but that one really does fall into personal tilt territory.Hopefully this, alongside Nvidian's suggestions, helps give a little guidance on what'd be capable of meeting all your needs. Good luck in whatever direction you end up going in!
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I do suggest the Fractal Design Pop Silent in this specific situation due to Comic wanting a quieter system. The Pop Silent will be more thermally constrained than the Air, but it does have sound dampening foam on the side panel(s), a closed top, and the front panel only draws in air from a side vent instead of being fully open. This is irrelevant if Comic wants to do manual fan tuning or something for noise levels though, in which case absolutely get the Air variant instead.
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I am honestly skeptical that the pop silent is actually quieter than the pop air. Airflow that restrictive just means your fans will run faster to compensate, which means more noise. Sound dampening doesn't compensate enough, in my experience. If you want a quiet system, grab a case with excellent airflow like the Lancool III or 216, and manually tune the fan curve.
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Ehh $136 for a 4TB PCI 4.0 nvme? https://www.amazon.com/Ediloca-EN705-Internal-Compatible-PS5 ;Laptops/dp/B0CJRW8GV3 And it alleges to be TLC with an SLC cache? I guess there's nothing stopping the company from vanishing if this blows up in a year, but on the other hand... $136. Amazon has that obnoxious thing where the seller has multiple variants even in the same capacity, so I can't tell which reviews are for which. Still, all my important poo poo is backed up, so maybe this would do the trick? edit: I figured out how to filter reviews for variations; 359 ratings and none are for the 4TB EN705 model. Nice job Bezos. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Zero VGS posted:Ehh $136 for a 4TB PCI 4.0 nvme? https://www.amazon.com/Ediloca-EN705-Internal-Compatible-PS5 ;Laptops/dp/B0CJRW8GV3 I have never in my life heard of "Ediloca," and google is producing very few hits for that name. Their website (edolica.com) isn't even loading for me. I'd stay away.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I have never in my life heard of "Ediloca," and google is producing very few hits for that name. Their website (edolica.com) isn't even loading for me. I'd stay away. The site was up for me an hour ago but I guess it went down. In any event the TeamGroup MP34 4TB is down to $152: https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-Internal-Compatible-Desktop-TM8FP4004T0C101/dp/B08Z7LN8NM/ and some people here vouched for that (and said it was a smoking deal the last time I asked, when it was $170)
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Typically Gen 3, but 4TB NVMes from known manufacturers show up every so often for not much more https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-Internal-Compatible-Desktop-TM8FP4004T0C101/dp/B08Z7LN8NM $152 - TEAMGROUP MP34 4TB with DRAM SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC NVMe 1.3 PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Internal SSD (Read/Write Speed up to 3,500/2,900 MB/s) e:b
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@Comic there is also the option of using a simple audio interface like the $90 Behringer UMC202HD. It opens up your inputs and gives you much better control over them. It should also let you drop down to a cheaper motherboard and actually save money while getting a better experience.
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i've been thinking to replace my old crusty x470 am4 motherboard motherboard with a b550+wifi/bt because of the ancient pci3/2 bottlenecks, especially wrt nvme drives, but there are so many weird revisions and reissues of motherboards that it's hard to keep up with what's good and what's not. obviously a discounted x570 wouldn't be terrible either i live in europe so north american sales probably don't apply much here, but is there anything in particular worth being on the lookout for in terms of brands and models? price checking sites barely have the right specs most of the time as it is e: god i wish pci release buttons were on every board at this point kliras fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I have never in my life heard of "Ediloca," and google is producing very few hits for that name. Their website (edolica.com) isn't even loading for me. I'd stay away. I prefer to stick to much better known, reputable brands for PC equipment, like Cuktech power and Nicgiga networking.  
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