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haveblue posted:It's that time of the month again- Twitter and Elon Musk (what's the difference any more) did something so far beyond the pale that major advertisers are jumping ship. This time it was approvingly retweeting blatant antisemitism and being unable to stop ads from accompanying it. He’s a pretty open Nazi, but Elon pals around with people like Andrew Tate who are just as awful but in a different way so I just don’t think he gives a poo poo
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Mercury_Storm posted:Why the gently caress are Apple and IBM still advertising on xitter at all. I can kind of get Xfinity because it's hard to think of a more publicly hated company. Inertia.
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Nov 17, 2023 21:47
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Better question, who is on Twitter who doesn't already know that Apple is making a new iphone every year?
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Advertising isn't just about informing people, it's about making them want it
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kefkafloyd posted:Apple just yanked their Twitter advertising as well. This is just sad, its not like Musk ever stopped or apologized for being publicly racist and/or antisemetic over the ongoing year-long meltdown.
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Mercury_Storm posted:This is just sad, its not like Musk ever stopped or apologized for being publicly racist and/or antisemetic over the ongoing year-long meltdown. a 'pause' (without actionable conditions on un-pausing) is cowardly
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Papercut posted:Advertising isn't just about informing people, it's about making them want it I'm pretty sure most everyone knows if they want to buy/use Apple products by now
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how old is the osama tiktok letter thing? apparently NPR is having its two cents on it, but theyre also having a "nuance" look at the stupidity lasagna of the situation.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I'm pretty sure most everyone knows if they want to buy/use Apple products by now I find it weird to be pushing back on the idea that Apple, one of the greatest marketers of all time, makes effective advertisements or understands the effect of their own advertising. Papercut fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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If you want to be a really institutional forever brand you have to be constantly bringing in new people. The iPhone is 16 years old. There are people who weren't born when it was introduced who are picking out their first cell phone today, and Apple isn't going to just hope word of mouth reaches them organicallyPhazonLink posted:how old is the osama tiktok letter thing? apparently NPR is having its two cents on it, but theyre also having a "nuance" look at the stupidity lasagna of the situation. Can't be more than a couple of days. At this point the hand-wringing over it has vastly greater reach than the original phenomenon ever did haveblue fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 18, 2023 |
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Nov 18, 2023 01:06
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I'm pretty sure most everyone knows if they want to buy/use Apple products by now “Making them want it” isn’t just about convincing people that your brand or products are good so that the next time they’re in the market for a phone they pick your phone. It’s about making them want your phone, right now, you’re missing out, buy buy buy, regardless of whether or not they actually need a new phone. You can’t get that without constantly pressuring them with ads.
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It's also been proven that if you stop advertising your market share just drops. For big companies a certain amount of maintenance marketing is required to remind customers that your product even exists or your competitors start eating your lunch.
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Thermonuclear https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1725866970338238696
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As much as I would love to see him immolate himself, I’ve learned by now that he talks a lot but does far less.
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my favorite part of this is "also 8 of the 9 posts were fine and allowed for serving ads against what's the big deal, also I'm suing for saying we serve ads against them"
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I would like to think this will be a big faceplant, but he somehow won the “pedo guy” lawsuit and also the “funding secured” lawsuit so he has some kind of supernatural mastery of lawsuits about saying things he isn’t supposed to
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haveblue posted:I would like to think this will be a big faceplant, but he somehow won the “pedo guy” lawsuit and also the “funding secured” lawsuit so he has some kind of supernatural mastery of lawsuits about saying things he isn’t supposed to His supernatural powers come from his enormous pile of money and his team of very expensive and hopefully competent lawyers, I would think.
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haveblue posted:I would like to think this will be a big faceplant, but he somehow won the “pedo guy” lawsuit and also the “funding secured” lawsuit so he has some kind of supernatural mastery of lawsuits about saying things he isn’t supposed to It's more understandable how Vernon "pedo guy" Unsworth lost what should have been a solid case when you learn who his lawyer was.
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... Wasn't the "funding secured" lawsuit the one that ended with him forced to buy Twitter at a highly inflated price
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ElegantFugue posted:... Wasn't the "funding secured" lawsuit the one that ended with him forced to buy Twitter at a highly inflated price No, it was a class action lawsuit over investor losses due to stock volatility caused by Musk saying he was thinking of taking Tesla private and then tweeting "Funding secured" when in fact he had only ever made the most nebulous plans to take Tesla private and, obviously, never actually did so. That lawsuit failed to find him liable because it was hard to prove a direct through-line of causation for the stock losses -- Tesla stock is volatile as hell at the best of times -- and because proving fraud generally requires specific, concrete, knowingly false claims with an intent to profit from deception, whereas Elon was just kind of tossing out recklessly stupid vague musings that he didn't even end up profiting from. He still ended up paying tens of millions of dollars in an SEC settlement over the comments, though. Old Kentucky Shark fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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Hard to find anybody defending musk out here these days (to my great relief). The moderate/establishment types who credulously believed everything they heard about Mars and batteries have caught wind of his tweet history, and even the angry young Joe Rogan guys know he's radioactive cringe (they're still very concerned about being immasculated and not being allowed to be men though, and plan to vote for trump). It was really hard for awhile, folks praised and defended things he never did... things he could never do, and simply dismissed the truth of the man as lies by jealous haters. Supremely frustrating "emperor has no clothes"/"you're surrounded by pod people" poo poo. Hope this anecdotal observation bears true out there, we never get the "I told you so" but I'm glad to be done with the alienating gaslighting all the same.
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Twitter has filed its thermonuclear lawsuit. Their core complaint is that Media Matters used Twitter in an atypical way in order to deliberately cause ads to appear next to antisemitic posts more often than they would organically You might notice that Twitter doesn't deny that that can happen! They just say it's rarer than the expose claims, and Media Matters is cheating because its examples were the result of going to look for it rather than accidents The lawsuit was also filed in Texas, which neither party has a presence in, but which does have a notable lack of anti-SLAPP laws and a notably insane conservative-stacked appeals route, so there's that haveblue fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Texas AG Paxton (who is under investigation for fraud) wants to open an investigation on Media Matters for fraud. https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1726765680375238864
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haveblue posted:Twitter has filed its thermonuclear lawsuit. Their core complaint is that Media Matters used Twitter in an atypical way in order to deliberately cause ads to appear next to antisemitic posts more often than they would organically There's also the fact that Musk's lawyers in this case worked in the Texas AG's office right up until last month, and that the Texas AG launched an investigation of Media Matters literally the same day that Musk filed the lawsuit. Putting all that together sounds like less of a coincidence and more like another item to add to the pile of corruption allegations against Paxton. Of course, there is one major obstacle to suing in Texas: the fact that doing so violates Twitter's own TOS. https://twitter.com/en/tos quote:The laws of the State of California, excluding its choice of law provisions, will govern these Terms and any dispute that arises between you and us. All disputes related to these Terms or the Services will be brought solely in the federal or state courts located in San Francisco County, California, United States, and you consent to personal jurisdiction and waive any objection as to inconvenient forum. To the extent permitted by law, you also waive the right to participate as a plaintiff or class member in any purported class action, collective action or representative action proceeding.
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haveblue posted:Twitter has filed its thermonuclear lawsuit. Their core complaint is that Media Matters used Twitter in an atypical way in order to deliberately cause ads to appear next to antisemitic posts more often than they would organically
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FlamingLiberal posted:Not that this suit isn’t bullshit, but I think Media Matters has a Dallas office Even if it does they have a very good case to have it shifted to California.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s going to get dismissed before hearing, I would imagine It doesn't really matter, this is how the right discredits fact-checking organizations in public consciousness.
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LifeLynx posted:It doesn't really matter, this is how the right discredits fact-checking organizations in public consciousness. Eh, kinda but that also doesnt really matter. The people who are only going to care that Musk sued Media Matters and not care that the lawsuit got dismissed are probably not being unbiased and honest actors.
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That may be the stupidest thing he’s ever posted, which is saying a lot
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I didn't know he considers tesla drivers his enemies, but that explains a lot
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We all had "that" kid at our HS but not many of them were given millions by their parents.
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Elon sighed as he drew his katana
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H.R. Hufflepuff posted:Elon
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haveblue posted:Twitter has filed its thermonuclear lawsuit. Their core complaint is that Media Matters used Twitter in an atypical way in order to deliberately cause ads to appear next to antisemitic posts more often than they would organically Texas actually has one of the strongest anti SLAPP laws in the country... but lawyers following the suit are saying Musk is filing in a way specifically to dodge it (by starting in federal court iirc?[.
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Mercury_Storm posted:Why the gently caress are Apple and IBM still advertising on xitter at all. I can kind of get Xfinity because it's hard to think of a more publicly hated company. IBM may be marketing in the hope that they can convince Musk to purchase from them. Musk has a history of making IT decisions for his companies rather than letting the actual experts he pays do their job - marketing on Twitter can get senior IBM folks into the room. This is speculation, but knowing how IBM operates at times, that's my best guess.
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