|
may everyone in the idk pk
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 12:14
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 05:10 |
|
|
This temporary ceasefire and hostage exchange was only possible due to Hamas' ability to successfully fight back against the occupiers. I hope they continue to be successful.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 12:15
|
|
|
Israel is already starting to lay the groundwork for an admission of failure in their war. ============================= The advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister said that Israel is ready to extend the humanitarian truce in Gaza to get more of its citizens out. https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...%87%D9%8A%D8%AF
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 12:17
|
|
|
may no one in the idf be dtf
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 12:23
|
|
|
They're going to turn the ceasefire into a stabbed in the back myth and blame Netanyahu for failing to complete the genocide while doing everything they can to get the gently caress out of Gaza.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 12:23
|
|
|
gradenko_2000 posted:may no one in the idf be dtf
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 12:27
|
|
|
Al-Saqr posted:wow what a surprise lich king nazi joe biden was after the gas after all genocidin for biden's oil profits actually lol biden is prob too senile to even know to invest
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 12:28
|
|
|
Al-Saqr posted:Ben Gevir is making GBS threads his pants and malding over the truce Gotta agree with Benny G on this one Stunning defeat for idf
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:19
|
|
|
Egg Moron posted:Gotta agree with Benny G on this one good for benny g respecting Hamas' she/it pronouns
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:24
|
|
|
Egg Moron posted:Gotta agree with Benny G on this one Yeah. To be honest I'm still in shock. Hezbollah beat the idf to a standstill in 2006. But Hamas with some support from hezbollah and the houthis actually beat and defeated the IDF at full power. Jesus Christ we're in a new world, the world has been changed forever. Israel was defeated in a set piece full scale war, and out of all the people who did it, it was Hamas. Israels two biggest assets, their air force has been rendered useless and their armor has been vaporized with a double-barrelled rocket launcher. If the ceasefire holds, it's an unbelievable victory for humanity as a whole. Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 13:30 on Nov 22, 2023 |
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:26
|
|
|
still sucks for the enormous damage the IDF caused to houses, hospitals, general infrastructure and lives. Like, enormous respect for the military capabilities, but I'm not sure how Gaza can be restored. Especially bc Israel's more than capable of restarting the siege at any time. Maybe it's better not to think ahead for than one day at a time, atm still kinda reeling from the relief that the ceasefire includes "hundreds of trucks" of supplies.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:32
|
|
|
Can't wait for next year when Hamas commandos, against all odds, successfully blackbag Israel's entire leadership so they can face charges in the Hague.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:33
|
|
|
WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Can't wait for next year when Hamas commandos, against all odds, successfully blackbag Israel's entire leadership so they can face charges in the Hague. Israel’s current leadership would sooner detonate a nuke directly beneath the dome of the rock than be taken at that stage
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:34
|
|
|
Are there any numbers out there at all regarding what sort of losses hamas have taken? The civilian and infrastructure losses seem to be pretty horrific, so it seems a bit much to call this a victory. A pyrrhic victory maybe 
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:35
|
|
|
gradenko_2000 posted:may no one in the idf be dtf They don't need to be, they have a machine for that now remember?
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:43
|
|
|
double nine posted:still sucks for the enormous damage the IDF caused to houses, hospitals, general infrastructure and lives. Like, enormous respect for the military capabilities, but I'm not sure how Gaza can be restored. the only way to restore it is to restore Palestine
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:45
|
|
|
i am judging by military and political and even repuationally, obviously the nazi level destruction israel has caused was a nightmare and clearly we can see that they cam try to gently caress things over at any moment. but when we judge this by the military, political and reputational goals, which is the thing that will last longer than the destruction (see vietnam where america killed millions but the north cane out on top), Hamas came out on top, they prevented israel from all their goals and succeeded in attaining many of theirs. with thr added bonus of reminding a whole new generationnof arabs why israel has to be destroyed and also the israelis have made themselves look like the single worst criminals of the 21st century. ill make a mega post later when my thoughts have clarified on this. Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 13:50 on Nov 22, 2023 |
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:47
|
|
|
while a lasting ceasefire would be a major victory for hamas, where do they go from there? i imagine they can’t just return to the status quo with gaza as a concentration camp being slowly strangled to death by israel while lobbing the occasional rocket in their direction?
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:50
|
|
|
Comrade Koba posted:while a lasting ceasefire would be a major victory for hamas, where do they go from there? i imagine they can’t just return to the status quo with gaza as a concentration camp being slowly strangled to death by israel while lobbing the occasional rocket in their direction? this is the thing that might make the difference in my book as to wether Hamas won the war instead of the battle. hamas has successfully undermined normalization, i think at this point its very likely no further arab countries of note will make a peace accord with israel unless a palestinian state on 1967 happens. the question that still needs to be resolved is will gaza have their siege finally lifted by egypt and the other states? to be honest i dont know, arab dictators are really stubborn about their stupidity, but Hamas beating israel bought it so much capital and arab governments are under so much pressure from people who have been completelty crack-pinged about the horrors theyve seen to save gaza it might just do the trick. lets see.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:54
|
|
|
apparently this tiny truce doesnt include hezbollah or the west bank or anywhere else the three insane far-right dudes were re-assured the war would continue by hitler 2
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:06
|
|
|
yeah it's really tempting to *hope* that everything will work out but the israelis still seem to wish for more war. it makes a certain kind of sense, given the rot in that fascist society
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:15
|
|
|
double nine posted:yeah it's really tempting to *hope* that everything will work out but the israelis still seem to wish for more war. I agree with your sentiment, lets see what happens.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:16
|
|
|
HallelujahLee posted:apparently this tiny truce doesnt include hezbollah or the west bank or anywhere else If they're still attacking the West Bank during this that's loving grotesque. Shouldn't be surprising, though, from the nazi regime of Israel nor its fascist enabler Genocide Joe.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:19
|
|
|
also hamas wanted a comprehensive hostage deal that would of released all of them for an actual longer ceasefire the us/israel refused genocide joe was not worried about genocide but pr And there was some concern in the administration about an unintended consequence of the pause: that it would allow journalists broader access to Gaza and the opportunity to further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel. Israel is unlikely to ramp down its military operation in Gaza when the temporary pause ends, experts say. Israeli officials have vowed to continue the offensive until it destroys Hamas, arguing in some cases that the campaign from the enclave’s north to the south helped the hostage negotiations by making a halt more attractive.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:20
|
|
|
aBagorn posted:good for benny g respecting Hamas' she/it pronouns As opposed to Israel, which is just sheeeeeeiiiit
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:27
|
|
|
i say swears online posted:is israel even recruiting international brigades?? I haven't heard anything about that at all beyond birthright IDF pressuring and it doesn't really make sense from the perspective of furthering the ethnostate project. i say swears online posted:so I can enlist in the IDF without wanting to become a citizen or convert? that doesn't sound right Israel did recently (a week or two ago) pass a law that any foreigner that dies serving the IDF would gey Israeli citizenship automatically. Not the family, mind you, just the dead person; but hey, they can call the Nut Busters in time, and then posthumously have an Israeli child.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:32
|
|
|
AnsarAllah ftw
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:35
|
|
|
sadly, Israel gonna Israel and no peace for the Palestinians yet
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:36
|
|
|
Blarghalt posted:Paratroopers have probably the worst casualty rate of any kind of unit that isn't a literal human wave penal battalion, and even that's debatable. And that's if they're successful. Russia had paratroopers at the start of Ukraine. They're just plain gone now. i can only think of two successful paradrops in history, that one fort the germans captured with gliders during the invasion of the Netherlands in WW2, and 10/7
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:49
|
|
|
The depraved Israelis!
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:02
|
|
|
Have they managed any more signal intrusions on Israeli broadcasts? those were cool
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:14
|
|
|
Free Nafouth
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:17
|
|
|
double nine posted:yeah it's really tempting to *hope* that everything will work out but the israelis still seem to wish for more war. That's because everybody has correctly recognized that a withdrawal from Gaza and failure to completely root out Hamas will be a loss. After everything, after all the talk about this being a new era, about what will happen "the day after", there is simply no way that Israel can sheepishly return to the status quo and claim it was a victory because we "greatly weakened Hamas" or whatever. This isn't 2009, 2012, 2014, or 2021. This is different. It's total victory or bust. And it's not just "technically" a victory for Palestine. There are some genuine achievements here beyond just humiliating and repelling the IDF. Normalization of relations between Israel and Arab/Muslim countries has been brought to a screeching halt. The Israelis who were evacuated from the Gaza Envelope are absolutely not coming back for a long time if Hamas is still there. Once the initial hostage exchange is made, there's gonna be some enormous pressure on Netanyahu to continue trading until the last hostage is back, at which point the Israeli government and the IDF will receive an additional humiliation as they're forced to acknowledge how many hostages died during the war. Spinning it as "Hamas killed them all" will be a lot more akward if people learn of their deaths not because soldiers find their corpse, but because Hamas says "we've run out of hostages to trade, you accidentally killed the rest of them." That's why they want more war. Otherwise, this has unquestionably been a total loss for Israel, from start to finish, with geniuenly long term consequences. It's either victory or the hostages, Israel can't have them both. Sancho Banana has issued a correction as of 15:37 on Nov 22, 2023 |
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:33
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:44
|
|
|
Al-Saqr posted:made a meme to celebrate thanksgiving hope you like it:-
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:44
|
|
|
Does the ceasefire apply to Hezbollah as well? Because the fighting in the north was getting pretty wild and Israel's retreat from the border there is a pretty big deal, I think, for them.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:45
|
|
|
Al-Saqr posted:made a meme to celebrate thanksgiving hope you like it:-
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:45
|
|
|
HallelujahLee posted:also hamas wanted a comprehensive hostage deal that would of released all of them for an actual longer ceasefire These ghouls know perfectly well that they're evil, never let them forget it
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:46
|
|
|
there was a conversation with Pepe Escobar which had an interesting russian connection re: Israel/Gaza, the entire video is interesting for an analysis of this whole shitshowquote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbs2WgV34HE&t=1380s It'd be extremely funny if Gazprom got to exploit the Palestine gas supplies for an infinite amount of reasons
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 15:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 05:10 |
|
|
Equeen posted:I never wanted to see someone’s skull cracked wide open as much as I want to see that done to this vile little freak. lmao loving online cops
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 16:03
|
|
